King throws ball back to SPA

Is it a Deal of No Deal?

- http://www.chakrapath.com/dealornodeal.htm

Hello Rein,

I find your arguments simply lame. You are resorting to personal attack simply because you have no valid argument.

I am sure that the SPA and other intellectuals know that the mass in KTM has more to do with the Maoist threat (forcing them to take part in the protests) than their own willingness or their unterstanding of the word "democracy".

Haku

Nothing less than constituent assembly-SPA

keep your words!!

haku, one honest question... u say 150,000 people (according to CNN news) participated in the demonstation inspite of curfew coz they were afraid of Maoists. Now if someone buys that argument , i have nothing to say to that person. Who will take to the street when there is curfew out of fear??? and that too 150,000 people? So, if u have ur relatives or friends in ktm, and if they havent gone to the streets for protests, have they been terrorised by Maoists for not going to the street??? oh ... give me a break, will ya

Rein,

My family didn't go to the streets because they were not visited by the Maoist, however, the thousands of people from the nearby villages have not been so lucky. You have misunderstood my post, you should understand that the Maoists are forcing people to go to the street and not the opposite.

By the way, I do speak with the local people rather than blindly following CNN.

Haku

REIN STATES"When king took all the powers in Feb 1, you were arguing everwhere against the democrats because then the parties' movement was weak."

Yo MORON I supported the King at that time too. I was hoping he would solve the Maoist Insurgency and put the country back in the path of progress. But he did not THUS I CHANGED MY MIND.

People like me are oppertunists and people like Nepe and Poonte are not ? They are sitting here watching and scheming making sure their REPUBLICAN movement gathers steam here so they can go back and claim some sorta Kursiii when the time comes. he he Didn't both of them say they are going to be involved in politics in Nepal(IF THEY EVER GO BACK THAT IS).

Democratic movement ? what democratic movement ? DEMOCRATIC MOVEMENT WAS 1990, WHAT JUST HAPPENED IN NEPAL WAS A RESULT OF GREEDY POLITICIANS FIGHTING AND BICKERING AMONGST THEMSELVES FOR POWER. MAO MOVEMENT WAS A RESULT OF WHOSE ACTIONS ? FUKING GYANEY WAS NOT RUNNING THE COUNTRY AT THE TIME !!! WHO GAVE THE OPPERTUNITY FOR FUKING GYANEY TO TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY ? GREEDY FUKING POLITICIANS FIGHTING FOR THAT KURSIII.

Prajatantra, while I have no doubt about your intention and I personally wished that things would go that way but I don't believe this cunning, arrogant and tricky king would allow things so smoothly.

Look at the facts of 12 years of democracy and constitutional monarchy in Nepal. Despite we had parliaments, elected government etc, our prime minister never could go against the will of the king.

Army had never been under the Prime minister or parliament or Defence Council and they never co-operated with the government.

During the tenure of Sher Bahadur, the prime minister was just a rubber stamp of the king and he did whatever the king wanted.

Even, UML's Bharat Mohan Adhikary couldn't stop increasing the allowance of Royal Palace.

When he replaced Lokendra Bahadur Chand with Surya Bahadur Thapa, he had said that Surya Bahadur and his government formed under article 35 and has the executive power.

When Sher Bahadur became the prime minster the last time, he was again the prime minister with the power of the same article.

But each time, there was article 127 that he manipulated and sacked the governments and re-instated whenever he wanted.

This new speech of the king no where admits his mistakes. He failed to make promise that he wouldn't touch that article 127 any more.

Some more points:
Unlike the tradition, he didn't dissolve this government before he invites the parties to form the new government. Which article of the constitution allows him to take the sovereignity of the power as a "naso" and return to the people at his discretion?

When the current government continues to exists officially, on what ground he can ask for a new government without dismissing it?

What should be responsibilities of the new "would be government"? In previous government formation, the king always gave directives and guidelings to function.

So, the parties should not plan themselevs or dream what they are supposed to do after embarking on the new governemnt. It should be pre-decided.

Once the leaders start talking to the king, the protest will cool down and again the king will start getting back to his shape.

The snake is just injured. Unless we crush its head, it will recover soon and will be ready to bite you again.

LARO KHAR KING, LARO KHAR SPA, LARO KHA MAOBADDI

Rein,

Haku is right. Perhaps you should remain on the sideline and enjoy the show. This thread seems to be outside of your league.

Bornfree,

Yup! That should fix everything. How come nobody thought about it?

LOL @ Bodmas

So Ashu, will I be seeing you tomorrow at Ratna Park?

King is smarter then all the SPA combined. SPA (what a name I am sure the crook politicians are all enjoying their drinks in the spa!!!!).
India is happy because its puppies GP, Deuba, Pashupati SJB Rana, Makanu etc are all in picture now. India wants to make our Nepal another part of its territory. And we like fools are protesting and giving bad name to our HM King. Shame on us.
We have become pawns of the crook-politicians. Now SPA will be in power (may be or maybe not). If they are in power will Nepal be prosperous? I do not think so.
The way people criticise HM King can they criticise any of our crook-politicians? I have not read anyone do this. What a shame.
My Nepalese brothers & sisters please wake-up to the fact that maoists-terrorists are coming to rule because SPA is also a pawn of these maoists-terrorists. Do you think you will have guts to protest once maoists-terrorists are in pwoer. FORGET IT.

Kalki Kapil,
Royalists some time put forward India as the scarecrow!
Royalists sometime put forward the maoists as the scarecrow!!

They produce the scarecrows to protect the king and his autocratic rule. They cry that without king, Nepal will cease to exist or India will take it over. But in the 21st century, its simply not possible for one country to annex the other.

They also say that without the monarchy, maoist will reign the country. In which book in the world, its written that maoists are not to rule the country? They can also rule the country if they come through constituent assembly.

King also can rule the country if he passes through the constituent assembly.

Otherwise, the modern world is for democracy.

Why does the king pee to announce the election of constituent assembly? Its simply not possible in the modern world to rule the country with heriditatory power.

Test your power in the public!

Once in a while very good point

Well, balls in INDIA's hand.. and Wicket is Nepal with no batsman to defend...

I think the constitution should be changed. king will be ceremonial monarchy. No ifs and buts.

Wondering who will be the PM??

And new contitution should have one article saying"Death if found misusing the public funds while in high govt post."

It's kinda a funny..... the demands of the 7 parties are:

1. Parliament Revival
2. Changes in Constitution.
3. Ceromonial Monarchy
4. King not to be Head of Army

Why teh hell these Parties form the govt., then revive the parliament themselves - no need to ask Gyane anymore, Gyane will not say NO to parliament anymore, otherwise he knows people could come on the streets.

Then once the parliament is revived, demand 2, 3 and 4 will be discussed and approved by the revived Parliament...

Why on earth these foolish party leaders are demanding both parliament revival and constitution changes at the same time?

my dear nepalese ...do not worry we are the children of nepal and we all know what we can do ...have faith on ourselves and lets give big support to those great people who are fighting for freedom,fighting for the country and fighting for us......i think all credits go to them and I am pround that we have these brave people.....though I am far from the county my supports will be always with them......One day tyranny will be finished and the golden morning will knock our door........

be good and do good.

kalpi kapil bhanne manchhe le bolyo ki mero kauko dukhchha............... till this point I was determined to avoid that murkha moron.................dude WIth his HM majesty , we already are a puppets................journalist.......lawyar........sabai lai lagera khundiyo..................... 70 crore ko bhatta........................ 19.6 % defense budget................I think kapli bro le dami protection pako hola.............. 19.6 % defense budget

Karmaranas points make some sense if the king fully co-operates.

But I don't think the king will be that co-operative. During Sher Bahadur's government, he gave the list from his pocket for the appointment of even secretaries, join-secretaries, president of election comission or Rastra Bank's governor etc.

You can compare him with the CEO of a company who interferes in the tasks of a branch supervisor.

He is an arrogant person and at the moment, his handing over of the power is just an attempt to diffuse the situation.

Revival of parliament through supreme court can make sense but under this constitution, there is no gate to go to constitution assembly. Even 2/3rd majority of the parliament can not alter the main theories of the constitution " Constitutional Monarchy and multipary democracy, if you are to stick with this constitution.

The present constitution has been several times raped and assaulted by this king. Army is still with him as defeated pack of wolves.

So, the only way is to begin from the trail head for the rest of the journey.

1. King announces that people are the source of the nation.And the sovereignity of the country rests in the people. (He has already said this).
2. Same announcement must ask all parties, civic society, maoists, professionals etc to come together for interaction.
3. Formation of an Interim government with a goal project of the election of constituent assembly.
4. Nepali army and the maoist army should be under UN supervision.
5. Promulgate a new constitution by the elected constituent assembly.
6. Formation of the government as directed by the new constituion.

I thnik the King still has that trump card... asking the coalition government to work on a new Constitution....

King already displayed his foolishness by beoming Prime Ministers.

And it appears now SPA Leaders are trying to become King....

What an Irony !!!