I don`t know anything about Sai Baba. I wonder which one is the main Saibaba. There are several appearances. I dont believe in No.2. Several video clips show his tricks, which he is using everyday for cheating people (his followers). Unfortunately, my family in Nepal is god damn crazy for him...They dont want to hear anything against him ......Kasari samjhaunu sabai lai?

Any idea?

hey IMI when did i go against sai baba?? i was just curious...i am also middle when it comes to sai baba, when my relatives give me bibuti, i i take it...i don't talk bad about sai baba with my relatives when they themselves follow sai baba i mean hard core follower of sai baba....

oh boy, thats the word! bibuti!! sheesh! thanks eh!
so it is real! woah amazing! :)

SS74k,
my mom is big fan .well i used to be too but you know i kind of started seeing all the news and stuff about him.Then as rational brain i do not need to offend anybody especially my mom and my very close ones;)..i better take things in different prepective to consider him as good human being.
You won't believe the hospitals with such equipments in putaparthi..there are millions of his followers around the world.And they are muslim, hindu, christian ..they haven't converted to hindu..i was just pointing you out that small point..they are still what they were..but such is not in the case of missiionaries way of doing.
Do i consider mother teresa ..god?? ..yes.i do consider mother teresa a true angel.though she did little differently than other social worker but nevertheless her work towards humanity is remarkable.it even overshadows the number of people converted to christian in calcultta;)

My family gives much time to SaiBaba`s pray than anything else. Young Sis, Old mum, Old Dad... all have just gone mad! I go mad seeing them going mad on SaiBaba... huuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!

SaiBaba might have done good for the poor people. Why our family think that he is the god in this 21st Century? Why are they going so blindly on his Bhajan and Kirtan? Why there are so many rumors on Bibhuti fell on or filled the Thaali or so on? Why one does not use live camera and record all these godly things and show? I dont have any idea..I can`t say anything against before parents and Sis. If I just open my mouth, they just jump on me! I am kinda " Nastik" in their eyes, but in fact I am not. I believe in god, but not on the power of 21st Century SaiBaba. I admire his activities for the welfare of the society.. but..I can`t see my family getting blind on him...!

Is this true that SaiBaba does surgical operation of whatever Doctors in reknowned medical centers could not perform? Any disease can be cured by his fu-matra? Is this true. My family says so! and believe in it.....there are soooooooooo-------- many such things...I have to listen.

HAHHAHAHAHAHA..
man southasian ta southasian some americans are also big fan.Well, see bhatiza..you cannot just attack some one's faith..especially ur family members..
nowadays people of nepal are frustrated so bad because there is no peace, no work so they need to divert their minds in to something..that is why we see all sorts of baba influence in nepal.

let me tell u if someone is not following sai baba ,then he/she follows some other indian baba..i am just surprise seeing my family members. hahaha..

these indian baba have great influnence in nepalese and thanks to nepal's problems..people need peace ..and people are just trying to find out ways ..

who knows maoraja maybecome another guru..hahaha a god ..he is such is the brain of people of nepal..


Another example ..the kid buddha..hahahah..runaway buddha..if u make fun..u never know when u get ass kicked by buddist fan who believes in runaway buddha bomzom.

ImI
you are right. I also feel that I should not attack my family member`s feeling and devotion. But yaar.. kati sahane? ati bhai sakyo..bhanya.. so many things I cant tolerate do happen at home.. ek choti ghar gaera hera..day by day people are getting crazy..it is for peace but more to think it is the waste of time as well. There are a lot of things to do, but.... first baba ko bhazan kirtan, then ..do something.. ha ha ha.. he he he.. huuuunh huuuuunh...huuuuuuuuunh...

Anyways, great thought ImI! There is no solution! May peace prevail in my family and Nepal. ....

I dunno about Bomzon! Kid fled..or kidnapped or ... yo sabai nepal mai hunu parne feri..kya ramita... anyways.. nepal is nepal.. estai hunchha hamro nepal ma!!!!

There are two kinds of people remaining in nepal.
first:
one who dances in the tune of indian baba ..bhajan kirtan all day..peaceful..
Second:
one who dances in the tune of politicians who again dance in the tune of indian politicians..there job ..thod fhod..tyre burning etc etc nice nice stuff..violent..but they find peace in it.

These days in nepal.If u don't fall under one of these category u are not going to get peace.

Anyways bhatiza ..i know how u feel..i know..trust me:)

Thanks ImI.
I dont fall in any of these two categories..so I am not gonna get peace! :(((((

just wanted to say no one in this world was a god. Even krishna, ram etc all so called god were like us. But they did something wrong. May be krishna and ram were the bush of their time who went to kill rawan and other daityas like Saddam or bin laden of today's world. Don't want to argue here now who is the terrorist, saddam or bush. Just give one example.

But generations after generations our religion couldn't give teh same impact to the younger generations and the religion felt like saying htey were god who could do anything. No..a big NO here....they were also just like us.

Jesus was a man, Ram was a man, Shiva was a man who used ot live in jungle, Buddha was a man - just he got enlightment and some special knowledge which made him think different from others (like yesterday's Einstein whose theory is yet to be proved), mohammad was a man etc etc etc.

Today we can see our soceity has placed Birendra's and Aishwarya's photo in puja kotha. Now may be after some generations the yonger one may get an impact that htey were somewhat like a god and then they will laugh and criticise just like us. It's not their problem but it's not the truth what they heard. It's a mistake from our way of handling over hte religion to our younger generation.

River gives us water, tree gives us shed, crop gives us food, that is why our religion tells us to pray them and worship them who gives life and support to human being. In dashain, we use rice in our forehead with yoghurt..this is because in old days, just having enough food was considered as being rich and secure, so the old persons used to bless the younger one with rice and yoghurt saying. ...khana launa pugi rakhosh!

At last, in conclusion i jsut wanted to say is nothing in this world is so called religion or god. They all are and were men and today the religion is different because different communities of persons followed differnt leaders and made it like a religion. Following something good is good in life. One should have some rules, disciplines and norms in life. and religion helps to do that.

So those who follow sai baba is not a bad thing. Dnot' make it an issue to discuss. If someone himself calls to be a god, then he should be noticed, but if other's themself call them god, then it's not his mistake. We should jsut see what he is doing for the whole society.

At last, Sai baba is nt a god. If he was a god, he should have talked to his devotees in many languages as they come in, he shuld have went to other countries as well and made such schools, hospitals in all the places. But he's just in puttaparti. He's a good resident and a good citizen and has teached all the world how to be it. We shuld learn from him and should try to foolow his good deeds.

That's all folks! waiting for +ve & -ve comments. Pls drop it!

Just wanted to say no one in this world was a god. Even krishna, ram etc all so called god were like us. But they did something wrong. ---------

sorry to make here confusion. It should be BUT THEY MIGHT HAVE DONE SOMETHING GOOD FOR MANKIND OF THAT ERA..


Thanks!

Exactly! good thoughts guanley.

yup yup gaunley you are right...

At last, to all of those who think our religion (Hindu) is worst of all...pls listen

history tells when christian religion was formed..everone knows how and which year
We knwo all who was mohammad, what he did, how it was formed and in which country
we knwo exactly about jain or sikh also
we all know about buddhist also
It all proves that these religion came into existence when people have enough sense to think of, not like the old era people of stone age of jungle age.

But, can any one exactly point out when was HIndu religion formed or created? How it came into existence? Who formed it or anything like that? Ok, no problem with all this, jsut give an exact century. But no, no single books or ancient remains provides this information. It proves that HIndu religion is one of the oldest, and may be the first religion in the world. Means before that all these christian, sikh, muslim were hindu and later when other religion came in to existence, they changed it. But what a pity, now only 2 countries, in Nepal and in India htere are hindus, others who are outside Nepal or India are boasting and regretting to be born in a hindu religion. Dudes!, i agree Nepal was not a good palce and is not so now also, but pls dont' give a question mark to our religion. I dont know of others..but i am PROUD TO BE A HINDU. I dont' run or chase after the religion, but if some question arises, i can comment upon any religion.

We have heard that arjun used his bow to drop the rain from sky, we laughed. But today many countries have developed such kinds of equipments which can even handle the nature. We laughed when we heard Rawan had 12 heads, but see, today also many babies are takign birth, sometim wiht 2 heads, 4 hands and many many other differnt ways. But the problem is they cant' live like before due to the geographical and environmental changes in this world. We also laughed when we heard Rawan took sita in a flying vehicle..but today aeroplanes are here. Even people laughed when Wright brothers told so. We also laughed when we heard our religion say there are 3 places, heaven/hell, earth and patal. But science also proved it today that there is another world out of this world. Yes, science is still to prove the fact of soul, but it will be proved one day stongly and our religion who used to say so will be again true. God used to see in something and say the fortune, but we laughed when we heard about this. Today scientists are making such kind of future machines which can tell the future. To some extent, they have been successful and can know the forthcoming storm, flood etc, but still they are not able to develop.

Dear frinends, these are just some facts which i knew and wanted to share with you. I am not sure if these all are right or wrong, true or false, but i am jsut happy that what i know makes me happy that our religion is not the good, but the best amongst all other so called religions. Whenever any one questions about it, i just give them these points.

This I have been telling in sajah for long time gaunley:

"HINDU RELIGION IS MOST SCIENTIFICALLY GATHERED SCHOOLS OF THOUGHTS WHICH HELPS PEOPLE TO LEAD A CONTENT LIFE"

i have even explained this to felicity with my interpretations in the thread..where she wants to be muslim..anyways not against it .just try to know one first or know every and compare.

Sorry, i forgot to mention the conclusion

The conclusion is this that HIndu religion is the most experienced, since it's from human being's starting age. HIndu religion was infact practical and scientific, but people who were the driving force of this religion eg: priests made this religion worst. they began to create bad effects by demanding more and more in name of religion, making themself more powerful by saying they are the messagers of god etc etc. They used to rule in the soceity in the name of bhagwan i.e. pujari and they made this religion look like worst. Otherwise hindu religion is the top among all and has everything practical and sceintifically proved.

Those developed people from USA and other countires are more backward then us. they think MOther Mary is a virgin. Pls ask them, how can a virgin women have a son.....???? isnt' it a 21st century biggest joke when they still believe it.???

Pls never be against any religion or any personal thoughts of other people, but if anyone does so with us, we should know waht to say and what faults they have.

But the main problem is our own people are criticizing our religion in place of finding the truth and making it more strong.

I hope these all explanations can at least make our sajha landers think that we are true and make them proud of it. I will think i am successful in doing what i wanted. I jsut wnat everyone to be back to their own religion and defend it. We are now in very short number (only 2 countries) and should try to instead expand more before we become a history.

don't get mad hai..tyo arko thread thiyo ni related about hinduism,,i liked the writing about vishontar...he wrote a lot of thing which is convincing for me...but i don't know about you guys..he never blamed hindu but he gave details,.
hey can anybody get me information..i just hate to read books...about which civilization is old..i guess there is four types of civilization...among them i am much more fascinated about egyptian civilization including mummy, pyramid built according to the angle of star, the way they pray god,they have all those historical evidence....so it just fascinates me..

here you go.

ss74k,
there were other civilization going parallel to those u mentioned but history books only give emphasis to these ones:egyptian,sumarains,greek, roman, some indus river valley.

i tried explaining about hindu .i just tried that was my way of looking at things .we need to open our minds and try to find reason behind it.There are supersitions and culture in our society ..they have meaning to it but we just don't know.may be they are outdated may be they have scientific explanation to it.

well,

it's a belief that people live with. they worship stones, they worship plants, they worship animals...now they worship human being...so what's the big deal?

but is he really a GOD or does he deserve to be revered as god?

well, if sai-baba has done good things for poor people, has done bountiful social works, has healed wounds, has helped people to get over difficult situations, then he certainly deserves to be worshipped. but then,

why worship only him?

there are people in the same coterie where he belongs to if "that" is what people worship him for. why not worship nelson mandela? why can't mother teresa be declared as god? if a person deserves utmost respect, does it mean he needs to be revered as god? just because a person can produce "bibhut" from his fingers does not make him a god. what about numerous other magicians that are around who can do similar stuffs/tricks?

i may respect him if he has really done goods for people, but revering him as a god is out of question. having said that, i respect the belief of people who worship him as god.

LooTe

hey btw way who are you to say what people should believe as there god????:P

yes i got the point..you can be god to some one if you do something good for them.I don't need to be telling that He/she/it that worship u as goddy or doggy :P

There are lot of people in that catorie ..i am one of them;):P hehehahaha
*devil laughs*