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Posted on 04-27-07 1:15 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Let’s stay together
Because breaking up by ethnicity is hard to do
by CHARLES HAVILAND
From Issue #346 (27 April 07 - 03 May 07)

Early this month I had the privilege of trekking through the western foothills of Gauri Shankar from Barhabise to Dolakha—so close to Kathmandu and yet devoid of crowds of trekkers. We climbed high above the Sun Kosi into remote mountain pastures, basked in rhododendron groves, goggled at langur monkeys, and were warmly welcomed by the nuns of the Bigu gomba, some of whom had rolled up their sleeves to help build a new block there. We marvelled at neat terraces of barley and wheat, swam in chilly rivers, and watched the lightning.

Aside from all those wonders, we were struck by the constant atmosphere of warm camaraderie and the diversity of the 11 staff on our camping trek. The sirdar was a Sherpa and his deputy a Rai. The marvellous cook a Bahun, his assistants a Sherpa and a Rai. Our porters were two Chhetris, two Tamangs, and two Newars.

And these people had not been gathered from all over Nepal. The porters were from a single village above Barhabise, and for six days we walked through a patchwork land, passing settlements of Gurungs, Tamangs, Sherpas, Chhetris, Thangmis, and more.

Look at the ethnic conflict prevalent in much of the world, and you realise that this diversity is one of Nepal’s greatest assets. Of course the country is wracked by hierarchy and discrimination, but society here still has a tolerant and open dimension that outsiders should envy. In the past, politics hasn’t taken on the ethnic, caste, or sectarian dimensions seen, for example, in India.

Yet some now want an ethnic carve-up of Nepal. In front of me is the Maoists’ map of the country. My trekking route is in “Tamang-saling”, the Kathmandu Valley in “Newa”, Everest in “Kirant”, the eastern tarai in “Madhesh”, the western tarai in “Tharuwan”. The Federation of Indigenous Nationalities and other ethnic organisations are now demanding similar ethnically-based structures for the country. And given the tarai tensions, we now officially have federalism, though we don’t know what kind.

Federalism, of course, can be highly successful, especially in large countries where decentralisation makes sense. Germany, the US, and Canada are successfully federal but not, largely, on an ethnic basis. But history suggests that ethnically-based federalism is a dubious idea. The former Yugoslavia was an ethnic federation and it collapsed. Apartheid South Africa drew up internal ethnic borders to keep the black population divided; with democracy, it redrew those borders on a non-ethnic basis. Belgium is federally divided between French-speakers and Dutch-speakers and barely functions as a single country (intriguingly, its monarchy is the one unifying factor).

Closer to home, the LTTE’s attempt to carve-up Sri Lanka along ethnic lines has brought 24 years of war. India’s federation is mainly on linguistic lines and is reasonably successful, but it has brought some problems: violence in the north-east, and sectarian politics, for instance, in Mumbai, where the extremist Shiv Sena wants Marathi supremacy in the state.

In any case, Nepal differs from all of these in that its ethnic and caste groups are so much more mixed up. Think of the patchworks of villages around the country; or the diversity within villages and towns.

Nepal’s status quo is not, of course, fine. The Bahun-Chhetri domination of state affairs has alienated most Nepalis. The exclusion of dalits, janajatis and madhesis—and, of course, women—is shameful and has been to the extreme detriment of the country. Nepal must wage a social revolution to counteract that history: maybe measures like quotas are needed, maybe non-ethnic federalism will help. But playing with ethnicity is dangerous and can turn neighbour against neighbour.

http://www.nepalitimes.com/issue/346/NepaliPan/13481
 
Posted on 04-27-07 1:41 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Well,
Quota system is not the best possible alternative but at this point of time .Quota systems should heal the gaps .Slowly once these discriminated population gets in thier feet .Quota system should be slowly decreased.
Maoist Enthnic based republician set up is sure way to divide the country.Nomatter how many reasons you gave that it is the best.My heart not only head tells that it will be sucidal decision for Nepal..But
Now the thing is Maoist will not even get 20% of the seats .So , there is not chance as such.
It is easier to divide but harder to unite!!!1
 
Posted on 04-27-07 1:55 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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well blame the fc*king leaders. blame gpk, baburam, pasuram, parachandra , etc...

if breaking the country into pieces so that other minority and disadavantage ethnic group can prosper and doesn't have to worri about discrimianation, i have no remorse in this.
 
Posted on 04-27-07 4:51 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Once the ethnic minority gets into power, it won't be any different than bahuns. Why does Sadbhabana party break? Even within the fraction, Rajendra Mahato has to kidnap the Ananda devi into his house (according to news) to become a minister and Hridayesh Tripathy was mad at it.

For all those living in the illusion of being properous with divided nepal, what is the main source of income in Nepal? These idiots from chure burned the red cross vehicles, and dreaming about the prosperity. It's only the bunch of people who're going to replace and expand for sharing the corruption. Nothing more. I'm against the federalism in Nepal; but I'm with DECENTRALIZATION (the real one; not only in paper). With the federal structure, what'll the Central govt. do if the madhesh state disagrees to obey the law passed by central gov. each time?
 
Posted on 04-27-07 5:13 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The ideal system would be Federalism without federal state-A true decentralization.
Panchyat did try to implement decentralization what went wrong in that was the Beuracracy controlled by same elite class and no priority was given to minorities within the districts.

According to the geographical condition of Nepal.The Division in the Time of Panchayat is best in Nepal.Then again ,it is not the system it is the people who implement the system.

Who raised the issue of ethnic based federalism - bloody maoist .For what - just the pricipal of divide and rule .

Giving autonomy To terai - is Just a dream and no sensible leader should do that.
But listening to them and full flling there most of demands should be agreeable.

Churebbhavar - a Place and identity for bahun and chetrri community - recently formed as the Bahun and chettri realized in ethinic based federal structure there was no room for them.Plain stupid !!!
 
Posted on 04-27-07 9:09 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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In true and reality....

Central government must control:

(1) national parliament
(2) national consitiuation
(3) National Law, Order and Justice
(4) National Army and Police force
(5) National TAX and Revenue collection
(6) Central intelligence
(7) Central corruption and crime investigation authority

Proviencial or State government must have:

(1) Local government
(2) Local bill issues and bill pass authority power for local development
(3) Local tax and Revenue collection
(4) Local law, order, rule, regulation and justice
(5) Local police forces
(6) Local crime and corruption investigation

Law, Order and Election systems:

All people include all royal families must be UNDER THE LAW AND CONSTITUTION. All people and royal families must pay NATIONAL TAX. Without natioanl tax and revenue collection, Nepal can not develope. Without proper tax systems Nepal always beggar.

Nepal national Election criteria and systems must be change. Nominate people for Minister and Prime minister must have at least BACHLORE DEGREE in management, economic, political science and public speaking etc.

Prime minister working period must be only 4 years term and NO MORE than 2 term allow. Or Crooks and Criminals prime minister will be like Girija and Saddam Huisen (Iraq).


Important key matter is that ... must think How can we under control deep rooted national crimes and corruption, Discrimination, Control Law, order, rule, regulation and justice systems. How can we develope Nepal in the fast past?

That matter must be in New Democracy.

Is not it?
 


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