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Come on guys, the information that you got from your friends at the CHYA PASAL or your outdated grandfather's complaint is not going to make you look smart here. Get the real facts. The city Tibetans in KTM can be of Nepali origin; many other caste, because of their CLOSED and ignorant views to other faith, easily believe them as from Tibet. They just can't stand any other beside their caste.Regarding birth and claims, I've seen many Indian born and raised in Nepal who claims as Indian, many Anglo Indian do that too. It's not just Tibetans.And about illegal lifestyle, well let's not talk about it. Who's NOT doing illegal things in Nepal?
To think Chinese are our friends is naive and simply idiot. It is easy to open your mouth full of complaint when you're from the city. If you've NOT been along the northern part of Nepal, you've no idea what China is capable of. Along the region of Dolpho/Mustang, Chinese have already started building road and trucks are passing freely in.People along those villages have no clue, neither they see the threat. Even if it meant no harm, there has to be an awareness/questions of their ENTRY into our country.
So there's the thing.
The CONTAINMENT of Chinese is a must and the Tibetans are the biggest distraction/obstacle to them. I really don't care what Tibetans are or what it means, I only care that Chinese SHOULD never enter our country. If they do,they'll join hand with the Maoist and that will be the end of freedom.Even the US is scared of China; Even your millions of God come to life will not be able to stop them cause they've Billions. So careful what you wish for.

HaHa bathroom coffee!! and mta177....very funny!! Don't know how got that idea of Tibetians helping nepal....You guys are funny....dude

Imagine this how Americans think when the illegal mexicans make and send money back to Mexico. They come to this country illegally draging the price of everything down and yet pay not taxes.

If America was benefiting or had benefitted they will allow the whole freaking world to come here and do that. Look at the history??? Dude I went to school with the FU**ing tibetians for 10 years in

kathmandu and I am from THAMEL....you guys don't need to explain that to me.....And people who rented the rooms in my house when i was a kid were tibetians and guess what!!! they were smugglers...i saw what

they did....I don't know how they were able to buy a house in ktm...coz they are not allowed to...

I AM NOT AGAINST FREE TIBET....FREE TIBET....BUT THERE WILL BE MORE HARM TO NEPAL IN TERMS OF TRADE AND ALL COZ...THERE IS NO WAY OF GETTING GOODS TO NEPAL VIA CHINA... COZ ONCE TIBET IS FREE CHINA WILL NOT HELP TIBET SO THE CONNECTION TO CHINA WILL BE COMPLETELY CLOSED AND WE WILL HAVE TO DEPEND ON INDIA TOTALLY....AND NO WONDER HOW MANY ARMY PERSONAL WE MIGHT HAVE TO KEEP IN OUR BODERS....AND CHINA AND INDIA TAKING NEPAL....DUDE ARE YOU GUYS IN THE 1940's THIS IS YEAR 2008...NEITHER COUNTRY HAS THE URGE TO TAKE NEPAL....INDIA AND CHINA HAS FAUGHT WARS CLAMING THE BORDER YOU THINK EITHER COUNTRY WILL WANT AND  ARM THEIR BORDERS WITH EACH OTHER....THEIR DEFENSE BUDGET WILL SKY ROCKET!!!WHICH THEY DON'T WANT.... NEPAL IS A CUSHION FOR BOTH THE COUNTRIES....IF THERE WAS NO NEPAL IMAGINE HOW MANY WARS INDIA AND CHINA WOULD HAVE FOUGHT!!
....MOREOVER WE ARE IN UNITED NATIONS ONCE YOU ARE IN UN IT AUTOMATICALLY DEFINES AND CLEARIFIES YOUR NATION AS AN INDEPENDENT NATION AND YOUR PRESENSE IS IN THE WORLD GLOBE...AND NO ONE CAN INVADE THE OTHER BY THE USE OF POWER....THEY CAN MAUPULATE THE WEEKER KO ECONOMY AND GOVERNMENT BUT THEY CAN'T TAKE OVER...THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO BHUTAN....ELSE INDIA ALREADY CONTROLS THAT COUNTRY IN EVERYWAYS JUST CAN'T TAKE THAT COUNTRY...ELSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER IRAQ WAR OF THE 1990. 


SO I THINK BOTH OF YOU GUYS ARE kids sucking on my lalipop GROW UP AND THINK BIG...

BACHHA HARU JAU SCHOOL MAA GAYERA  HISTORY RA POLITICS CLASS LAU!!! YOU GUYS ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO THINK IN A GREATER PICTURE.

 IF YOU GUYS REALLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT NEPALESE POLITICS AND ARE AGAINST NEPAL DEPENDING ON INDIA.... WHY DO U THINK ALL OUR KING VISITED CHINA AND NEVER INDIA WHEN WE DEPENDED ON INDIA SO MUCH......i am against monarcy but our past kings such as MAHENDRA AND BIRENDRA always went to china to protect us from indian humiliation.... IT WAS TRIBHUWAN WHO ALMOST SOLD OUR IDENTITY TO INDIANS.....AS WELL AS ALL THE CHOOR NETAS.....believe me or not whoever is going to be the next primeminister of nepal.....HE WILL VISIT INDIA FIRST......you know why??? coz to shake hands with the indians and sell or land and resources to them so that they don't enterrupt their business in nepal......
TIRED OF TELLING YOU STUPID FU]<S A STORY ITS NOT EVEN WORTH MY TIME....
PEACE AND NO NEED OF YOUR STUPID COMENTS....THIS BLOG IS AGAINST THE USE OF SAJHA.COM IN FAVOR OF TIBETIANS

IF YOU LIKE EM PLEASE START YOUR OWN..... THANKS

 

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Nepali,
u seem to be a arrogant prick shouting without thinking. Learn to write a descent sentence first, Mr I know it all. Trade??? Do u even know the def of trade? Idiot, it's not called trade, it's called DUMPING, you moron. What do we sell to China to call it "trade"?. Idiot like u think it's fine, but we're killing our future generation undermining our currency and the health of your economy.
And please keep that CHYA PASAL gaaf about secret visitations of our past Kings from his bathroom to China, to yourself.
You really think BIG, don't u?
Gaafadi haru ko Gaaf.

Here comes the fierce advocates of Tibet who doesn't gives rat's a** about their own

motherland but want to talk hot and high about some other small country just because

the western media talks about them!! F**K off a** holes

I AM Nepali. Lets get the facts straight. How did Tibetans hurt NEPAL? Tibetans taught Nepali how to make Carpets, Thankas, Silver Jeweleries and many more. They brought Tourism. I really doubt that you are from Thamel. If you are from Thamel I don't have to explain these things to you. Thamel, Kingsway, Hanumandhoka, Swoyambhu and Boudha have many Carpets,  Thankas  and Jeweleries shops which sell those items. These are the main business items of those stores. Those shop owners are mostly Nepalese who learned from Tibetans. The items like Thankas, Carpets, Silver Jeweleries are the main products we as Nepalese export to European countries like France, Germany, Italy and Asian countries like Japan, South Korea. Not only that when these Tourists come to Nepal, they stay in hotel, so the people who are related to hotel businesses also get jobs,  The money made by those Nepalese spend on clothes and food and entertainment which will also benefit Indian Marwari. So more or less everyone is benefited from Tibetans. First do research on those things then write.

So, you judge whole ethnic group or community like Tibetans  by some of your personal experience. Wow what a smart person!!!!!!!!!!!!!. What a way to think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you really believe China will help Nepal if  India invades Nepal?  If you really believe these things, then I 've nothing to say.  You sound like there is a difference in  color of the blood. You think the blood of those Sudanese, Taiwanese and Tibetans are less important than yours. Evil Chinese Govt who ran the bulldozers on thousands and thousands of their own people is gonna watch Nepal's back. Keep on dreaming.

How do you know our past kings met secretly with Chinese Ruler? Are you kings' special secretary,  watcher or what? Or they contacted you whenever they had a meeting.

Democrats are not complaining about hispanic population, its conservative Republicans who won't get Hispanic votes are the ones who is making noises. They are scare of growing Hispanic population. It is not none of your concern to relate Hispanic with Tibetans. Because Native Americans were Hispanic but Tibetans are not native Nepalese. So, you cannot compare them. You want to teach me history, first get PHD in American History then give me a lecture, otherwise don't even open your mouth about American History. Open your mind wider it won't hurt you before someone accuse you of racism.

I am Nepali states,"Imagine this how Americans think when the illegal mexicans make and send money back to Mexico. They come to this country illegally draging the price of everything down and yet pay not taxes."

ha ha ha ha ufff Hasayo yo Gadha ley. Mexicans bringing the price down without paying taxes rey. Ha ha ha ayyyaaa petai dukyo. THIS IS WHAT I CALL TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS ECONOMICS. ha ha ha Cheuu na pucchar ko kura garch yo gadha!! Talking like a true PAAKHEY!!! ACCORDING TO YOUR LAME ASS LOGIC MEXICANS ARE RESPONSIBLE OF ALL THE UPTURNS AND DOWNTURNS OF US ECONOMY THEN HUH MORON !!!! HA HA HA Not WALLSTREET, not GDP, not Unemployment rate ...ITS ALL ABOUT THE MEXICAANS ha ha ha ayyaa baba hasaucha. ha ha ha



IAMNEPALI states,"kathmandu and I am from THAMEL....you guys don't need to explain that to me.....And people who rented the rooms in my house when i was a kid were tibetians and guess what!!! they were smugglers...i saw what

they did....I don't know how they were able to buy a house in ktm...coz they are not allowed to...


Yeah we don't need to explain anything to you but school you in what people call common sense. ha ha ha MERO GHAR MA SUUN KO HATTI PANI thiyo GADHA. ha ha ha THIS MORON IS CHASTISING THE ENTIRE TIBETAN POPULATION BASED UPON A TIBETAN WHO USED TO LIVE IN HIS HOUSE ? HA HA HA YEstooo GADHA lai ke bhanney. Bharey mero ghar ma suun ko hatti pani thiyo tyo Tibetan haru ley chorryo therefore all TIBETANS are thieves too right ? ha ha ha THERE ARE NO NEPALI SMUGGLERS IN NEPAL ALL THE SMUGGLERS ARE TIBETAN RIGHT ? ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC. AND THOSE GUSH LINEY CUSTOM OFFICERS ARE ALL INNOCENT TOO(cause they are the ones who let them smuggle instead of arresting them). baccha justo kura garcha baaa yo gadhaaa !! And he also saw Tibetans buying houses in KTM rey ... ha ha ha Wanna know how they bought those houses ? just like the nepalis are buying houses in India, England, US and elsewhere. GADHA !!!

 

To be continued ...

 

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MR MTA177 AND BATHROOM COFFEE...I GUESS YOU PEOPLE HAVE NO GOOD REASONS TO ARGUE HERE...YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND YOU ARE PREACHING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF OTHER COUNTRY? AMERICA HAS INFULENCED THE WOHLE WORLD has that been all positive influence... TALKING ABOUT CHINA KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE!!!COMEON ITS A POLITICAL GAME... OUR KINGS AND THE RANAS KILLED NEPALESE POEPLE TOO.... WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT.... IF THAT IS GOOD??

DUDE!!IF THERE IS A PROTEST; THERE WILL BE KILLINGS!!SO WHAT?? CAN YOU STOP THAT? AMEICANS HAVE KILLED A LOT OF INNOCENT PEOPLE!! WHAT DO U WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT...NOTHING?? HAS CHINA KILLED ALL THEIR POPULATION?? THEY KILLED PEOPLE WHO PROTESTED THE PEOPLE IN POWER. I DON'T THINK SO...WHEN PEOPLE PROTEST...THERE WILL BE VOILENCE....ADDINT TO IT IF THE PEOPLE OF CHINA DIDN'T LIKE THE GOVERNMENT EVERY ONE SHOULD HAVE LEFT CHINA BY NOW WHY IS THAT NOT HAPPENING.... DO YOU NOT SEE IN THE PAST 30 YEARS

WHERE CHINA HAS REACHED?? anyways!!! It looks like i am debating with the freaking TIBETIANS here (mta177, bathroocoffee and rewire) GO GET A LIFE SOMEWHERE!! AND QUIT CUSSING.... COZ ALL YOU FREAKS CAN DO IS SHOUT YOUR MOUTH LOUD AND CAN DO NOTHING BESIDES TRYING TO COMPREHEND WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND JUST BY WATCHING THE NEWS.....WHY DO WE (NEPAL)HAS TO LOOK BAD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD OF SOME OTHER COUNTRIES EYES....COMING TO THE SAME TOPIC...IF YOU WANT TO PROTEST GO TO TIBET....PROTESTING IN NEPAL

YOU WILL NOT GET ANYTHING...

REWIRE BRO:

YOU SEEM TO KNOW NOTHING SO JUST KEEP YOUR STUPID COMMENT OUT OF THIS ISSUE....IF YOU KNOW WHAT

TRADE IS DEFINE IT FOR YOU AS WE ARE NOT AWARE OF THAT WORD....

 

BACK OFF KID ....YOU NEED TO LEARN THE PAST HISOTRY MORE....HOW OLD ARE YOU 14-15... I GUESS

YOU WERE NOT EVEN BORN WHEN ALL THAT HAPPEND....SO HOW WILL U REMEMBER....

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA

PEACE

IamNepali,"YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND YOU ARE PREACHING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF OTHER COUNTRY?"

Duhhhh !!! What history are you talking about MORON ? I THINK WE STUDIED THE SAME HISTORY BOOKS. SO TELL ME O LEARNED ONE(OR most likely an IDIOT).

 

IamNepali,"AMERICA HAS INFULENCED THE WOHLE WORLD has that been all positive influence."

Umm Really !!! ha ha ha Nahasaaa na AYYY GADHA !!! Say that to the Palestanians, innocent Iraqis dying everyday on the streets Man I can go on and on and on. Positive Influence do you know the difference between Popular and Positive ? Big difference there Pal. he he he

 

IamNepali,"TALKING ABOUT CHINA KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE!!!COMEON ITS A POLITICAL GAME... OUR KINGS AND THE RANAS KILLED NEPALESE POEPLE TOO.... WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT.... IF THAT IS GOOD??"

What's your point there MORON ? Stick to the TOPIC GADHA. Dun be talkin' like someone with ADD.

 

IamNepali,"DUDE!!IF THERE IS A PROTEST; THERE WILL BE KILLINGS!!SO WHAT?? CAN YOU STOP THAT? AMEICANS HAVE KILLED A LOT OF INNOCENT PEOPLE!! WHAT DO U WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT...NOTHING?? HAS CHINA KILLED ALL THEIR POPULATION?? THEY KILLED PEOPLE WHO PROTESTED THE PEOPLE IN POWER. I DON'T THINK SO...WHEN PEOPLE PROTEST...THERE WILL BE VOILENCE....ADDINT TO IT IF THE PEOPLE OF CHINA DIDN'T LIKE THE GOVERNMENT EVERY ONE SHOULD HAVE LEFT CHINA BY NOW WHY IS THAT NOT HAPPENING.... DO YOU NOT SEE IN THE PAST 30 YEARS"

Here we go again BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH .....BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH....BLAH BLAH BLAH ...BLAH BLAH. WHAT IS YOUR POINT HERE MORON. AGAIN STICK TO THE TOPIC.

 

YEAH GO ON AND WATCH YOUR NEWS..... MAYBE JUST STICK TO ONE CHANNELL .... AND DUN BE FLIPINF LIKE A PERSON DIAGNOSED WITH ATTENTION DEFICEIT DISORDER. HA HA HA


 

Stop arguin guys, sorry to go lil bit out of topic but bathroom coffe is sooo hot!

I AM NEPALI, you think you are the only Nepali in Sajha. Those people who support Tibetans are all Tibetans.It makes me think that you're a very  logical person. Wow!!!!! I really need to praise you for that. Do you even know what humanism is? What is right and what is wrong? Or you just learn the text book to pass the exam. Keep it up . It will help you a lot.You called other kids, how old are you by the way? For your information age doesn't make person smart.  Are you trying to say you are the only person who knows Nepal's History or what? Do you mean you read different  Nepal's history than others or what? Otherwise everybody knows Nepal's history more or less. Don't need to preach.

 

You are comparing US with Communist China. In US even illegals have rights. Whereelse in the world have have you seen those rights? Illegals in this country can protest freely and force congressmen to change law. Have you seen or felt or heard anywhere else in the world? You haven't even noticed or known Free Press in US? Seriously, you are spending too much  time on past Kings of Nepal. Or you are still trying to remember your Golden days with late kings.  Have you ever seen foreign journalists kicked out of US when peole are protesting?  Have you ever seen US Govt. censoring and blackout news and medias?If you cannot digest the Freedom then join Communist where you will get lots of Government Supressions isn't that what you're waiting for.

Just wait, Time will tell how long Evil Chinese Regime will last. They cannot just rule only by selecting and censoring the news, medias and youtubes. How long will they able to keep Chinese Population innocent and  under dark from the rest of the world and media? It has to be blast and it will blast. I think Every human beings wants to be free. Everyone wants to make their own destination. No body wants him or her to be controlled by Govt.

For your info, Nepal is not just your Private Property. I will speak againsts Evil Chinese Govt. from here(US), from Nepal wherever I want. Just like you speak against US policies from here. Those Tibetans have full rights to protests from Nepal too.

 

dude! look at the facts about Tibet and China on this site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo&feature=related

Java, That is all propaganda. I can make similar argument with every country in the world. Darjeeling should be part of Nepal, Bangladesh should be part of India, Israel should be part of Palestine, all of Europe should be under German Authority, Kathmandu is for Newars only rest should get out. It is all about perspective.

and here is Jet Li talking about Tibetan Buddhism(which he practices) and Dalai Lama(whom he met). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVPlT9GWF_g

You guys need to calm down a little. Here's how i understand this whole situation. Before China took over Tibet in 50s, Tibet used to pay Nepal yearly tax after they lost war with us. China was going through the "Cultural Revolution" back then. For them Tibet (a region governed by religious sects (theocracy)), was troubling and some how threatening to their revolution.
Now regarding Nepalese cooperation to China - it is a very basic principle of nature 'big fish eat small fish'. You know the saying "if you can't beat them join them". We cannot oppose to China and India in certain  issues. We  are torn between two nuclear power 2.5 billion people's nations. So I hope our Tibetan friends understand this. Unfortunately, these are the only two countries that can help us in many disastrous situation, and for that matter we cannot loose them.
Western nations can brag and criticize for Nepal's role in Tibetan protest, but ask yourself, what have they done. Bush has said nothing so far regarding Tibetan situation. There are no foreign media present in Tibet. Who knows how many Tibetans have been killed, yet not a word from Bush. Isn't US the biggest allie of free Tibet movement? How come there is such a level of silence then...I know why. Things have changed between US and China. China is the biggest trade partner for US and for India as well. That's why both India and US don't want to upset their trade buddy.
I  personally don't like the excessive force used by Nepalese police to Tibetan protesters. I thought they could have handle it better than that.
Someone said 'what would they do if they got freed from China'. I thought that was inappropriate. You are valuing freedom against materialism. Just remember, some prefer death on feet over life on knees.
Thanks,
SS

six string,
You got it right. I agree with you 100%. We Nepali cannot do much, but the brute force against a peaceful demonstration is unnecessary. The issue of "Free Tibet" is very popular in the West, there's much more exposure and headline than anything that happens in Nepal. By that account, Western people(maybe not the government) is going to raise the voice. Simple common sense is enough there.Their government would not say anything even if India or China were to invade Nepal right now. To involve their government in such delecate affaird will be almost impossible. But unlike China where freedom of Press and Speech is suppressed, the people in the West is definetly going to speak up or post it on youtube.We're f##Ked up no matter what we do. Last time we deported few Tibetan refugees, we lost our quota for the garment exports to the US initiated and canceled by Senator Barbara Boxer of California. Some business of Nepal suffered a real blow. I hope nothing happens to our country again, cause it is more intense this time.There's no Western media or tourist in Lhasa of right now, I cannot imagine how many Tibetans will be killed.
Nepali, looks like you DO NOT know the difference between DUMPLING and DUMPING. Sorry, I didn't realize your level of education, I'll take that back. Can you please turn off the CAPS at least?

 I know Nepal has to deal  with these two sucker nations but that doesn't mean we as a human can turn blind eyes on what has been happening. Tibetans are not doing violent protests. They are doing peacefully. So, why do these policemen have to beat them like a hell.We need to have courage to say right is right and wrong is wrong. Bush cannot say anything on this matter because his aproval rating is 32%. Nobody listens to him anymore. Plus he got more than full time jobs to think about 2 wars right now.

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