Guys, just found these two pics in the Kantipur. I think, the new constituency is to be made for these people and not by these people. One needs broad knowledge and vision for making constitution. What these people will do in the parliament?

I am not against them. Its good their voice will be heard. But they have to vote for every new rules and regulations. How will they assess any news bills presented in the assembly?

The only benefit is the allowances they gonna get. It will help them to improve their financial status. Take them to a living standard of average Nepali people. 24 months with 40 thousand plus each month hopefully will help them to build a small hut of their own. I am happy about that. For rest of the things, I kind of second SHIVANAGAR. ( I guess we have some place named shivanagar in chitwan).

त  मुला अम्रिका मा बसेर कोसले देश बनाउनु पर्छ कोस्ले बनाउनु पर्दैन भनेर हुन्छ ?

Now, I am smart.

What is the total number of CA members? And how many are the above types?

SheetalB
             so why did you go to college?? if you think just working and having experience would be enough your college degree worth zero!!!! you must be kidding me, just cause these people were working doesn't make them smart or intelligent, even a street dog finds food to eat doesn't make him a hunting dog, and just cause a riksawala makes a living driving his threewheeler ain't going to get him in a fortune 500 companies board room.

            They are trying to write the constitution of nepal, they are not deciding to dig a well in their village. Freedom is only free, if you understand the true meaning of it, otherwise freedom is a burden if you don't know how to utilize it.

U just used your freedom of speech for nothing, we heard you but you are wrong. If experience was everything the dude in my company who is a janitor should have been the president of the company he has been the longest there.

     I am not attacking you, I am just arguing a cause... That is totally communist idea and it will only cause Anarchy in Nepal like Eagle5 said.

give me 5 for the Anarchy in Nepal

The one drafting the constiuent will have lots of input from these people. But there should be some intellectual for taking the final decisions.  What is lacking on them is the vision. They know what they need but don't know how to get them.

Eagle5, we were not forced to stay outside the country. We did come out voluntarily. Do not blame on those innocent education lacking people. You can go back home and contribute your knowledge to make new Nepal. Amerikama basera gaaiko masu ra beer khayera Nepal banchha ra?

The above type of people (chura bechne Hasina didi ra bhada majhne Sebakidevi didi) are the just representative in the name of inclusiveness. They are the "agree" votes in CA for the party who nominated them. They will not influence the overall structure of the Law in Nepal. All in all, 200 people would be good enough to make the constitution and the top 200 people are already in, this is my opinion. Let's give them chance and make every ethnic group feel comfortable. After all they also deserve every single rights in Nepal. They are like this just because of the ignorance of former rulers. Not the things must change slowly to uplift the life of left-behind people too.

Typo correction: Now the things must change slowly to uplift the life of left-behind people too.

NETPE-Inclusive democracy does not mean you pick some one from the street and get that person in parliament. Each single person/member has a role-, and, therefore, each should posses good potential and caliber, academically and leadership wise. And coming back to your question on forcing, well you do not need to be forced directly or physically, if you do not give room and oppurtunities for educated youngsters this is what is bound to happen. DO NOT TRY TO FOOL PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF NEW NEPAL AND INCLUSIVE DEMOCRACY

Eagle5 is right...Ani America ma basera gaai ko masu ra beer khaadaima Nepal banchha ra bhanne maanchhe chaai kahaa basera yasto waahiyat bhaasan haani raako holaa hai??? Huna ta aafule gaai khaado ho tyasaile...aba timraaa maobaadi le pani nepal maa gai khana thaali sake ni...LOL... yaar duniyaa laai lutera khaane, thagera khaane, maanchhe ko jyaan line maobaadi aatankakaari haru ta CA member hunchhan bhane yi chura bechne ra bhada maajhne didi haru CA member bhayeko maa ma chai khusi chhu baa....yasai nikamma haru le badhi seat lyaaisake aba aru ali ali thapidai maa k nai hunchha ra????????

What prachanda says happens in Maobadi. What Girija says in NC.  No democracy for poor country.

New Nepal is indistinguishable from Nepal Classic and identical to Nepal Zero.

Me?  I holding out for Nepal Plus, Ultra Nepal, and New and Improved Nepal!  LOL...

SSDD

Pyarikt, tyo maobadi ko kura kaha baat ayo? Je pani maobadi ma lagera jodidine hamro parampara le uniharu lai nai faida purako chha... be cautious when you give credit or discredit maoists... they benefit in many ways...

Scenarios:
(1) In Gyane's period, the then home minister Kamal Thapa said, "Those who do not believe in King (directly saying Rajtantra), are on the Maoist side". Those comments added fuel to more people go against King and that was directly beneficial for maoists.
(2) In Girija's rule, he ran an operation "Kilo Sera 2" which killed so many innocent people and declared as maoists, which again dragged more people towards Maoists agenda.
(3) More often, many people used to refer other residents from certain districts (Rolpa, Rukum, Pyuthan, Salyan) as Maoists and treat like that. That grew hatred against these people and indirectly forced to behave like Maoists.
(4) There are many other instances where I have directly observed in Nepal and abroad.

By the way, in the CA member selection process, every  party has elected all kind of people, UML, MJF, Congress, Mao, etc...Why do u blame Maoists in this issue? To be fair, I don't see anything wrong with Maoists in this agenda. Another thing, if Maoists do the right thing in first place, which many people admire in Nepal, but you & me criticize staying abroad. What's point here. Maoists are bringing whole country people in their road map while we are just criticizing them in every matter.

Pyariketi, if you misunderstand or cannot accept the reality, then you will be worshiping the dead king forever for nothing.
What's wrong with those few people (how many of them are in CA?) who got nominated. Does that number really make difference to the new constitution?

Let's assume for a while, they don't know anything. But they are teachable, right. Can you (so-called) educated person teach them what should be included in the CA? You can even prepare a draft and send to hem if you are really worried about new constitution. Can you do that as an aware citizen? If you can, it can be a great contribution directly or indirectly. Better shut up our mouth than doing nothing for the country. Personal opinion bhandaima je payo tehi bhannu pani thik ta hoina hola ni.

 

One of the CA members from NC. Congratulations Krishna Kumari Pariyar Jyu !!!
	समानुपातिकबाट सभासद चुनिएकी कांग्रेसकी कृष्णाकुमारी परियार शुक्रबार काठमाडौं जानुअघि पोखरामा छिमेकीले चिनोका लागि बनाउन दिएको ब्लाउज सिउ“दै । यही पेसाबाट परिवार धान्दै आएकी परियारलाई कास्कीबाट सभासद चुनिएपछि अब कपडा सिउन नभ्याउने भन्दै छिमेकीहरूले अन्तिम चिनो बनाउन लगाएका थिए । उनले पनि अब जनताका काममा खटिनुपर्ने भएकाले कपडा सिउन नभ्याउने बताइन् ।

I bet that the women featured here have a BETTER intuitive grasp of the problems ailing Nepal than someone with an undergrad degree from Harvard or a PhD from MIT...

All that can be done is to expect that the right decisions be undertaken by those who've been trusted with such a responsibility...IMO, those who've lived through it (the opressed, minorities, neglected rural areas and the female sex) would probably be the best to bring about the much needed change in the socio-political-religious arena that otherwise would've surely been neglected until the next election...at least that is.  And yeah, I sincerely hope they'd be ABLE TO SPEAK UP in the parliament rather than just hide behind the viel and give their consent to every new bill passed without questioning considering themselves to be members the weaker sex.  There is no room for intimidation!

In a patriotic mood today: 

http://www.mysansar.com/?p=2598

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यिनी हरु ले बनाउन सक्दैनन भनेको मत्लब उत्तम बाबु ले भनेको जस्तइ ऐले का भ्रस्त र बुद्धिजिबी
भनाउदा हरु ले बनाउनु पर्छ भनेको होइन ! यो त हाम्रो बिदमन्ना हो कि हमिले सम्बिदान बनाउने
गतिलो मान्छे पाउन सकेको छैनौ !
उत्तम बाबु को कुरो नयाँ कुरो बनाउनी भन्दा पैले को मान्छे हरु लाई पछ।र्नु  पर्छ भन्ने
आशाय को छ !    

Read this interesting article by Dr Pramod Dhakal......

Road to Fair Representation: A Look at the Politics of Transition in Nepal

Dr Pramod Dhakal

Ottawa, Canada

On April 10, 2008, the people of Nepal surprised the world in a number of ways. First, a much awaited, but often postponed, election for the Constituent Assembly actually happened. Second, it happened with a level of violence and disturbances so far below the expected international norm for countries like Nepal that the whole world came to extol Nepal. Big political parties patted themselves on the back for how freely and fairly they had conducted the election, and praised the people for voting peacefully and in large numbers. Third, the people elected the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoists) with a substantial and conclusive margin even though the high flying media houses, international political pundits, and superpower interests had predicted a humiliating defeat of the Maoists as late as late April 11, 2008 when early results had started to trickle out. Today Nepal has become the subject of talk in the world media and there is a mass euphoria at the time being. However, this is not out of character.

The people of Nepal never stop surprising the world time and again. They reared, and then followed, Gautam Buddha whose teachings swept entire Indian subcontinent, China, and Japan a long time ago. Their invention of the pagoda style art and architecture swept China and Japan millennia ago and everyone seems to have forgotten about it today. They resisted first an all powerful Mughal empire and then an ever expanding British Empire that was swallowing up the entire Indian subcontinent. They survived through the complete collapse of India-China trade and the devastation of their thriving economy in the subsequent isolation of the country. They wooed the world as the most peaceful people in the world when their country was opened to the world in the 1950s. They overthrew three autocratic regimes in last 60 years through popular uprisings - the last uprising being one of the largest in any recorded history of humankind. They witnessed the most gruesome massacres in the royal courts thrice in modern history including the killing of the king, queen, and almost all members of the royal household in 2001. Under the banner of the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoists), they started an armed uprising in the mid 1990s when socialist empires, including the once mighty Soviet Union, had crumbled rendering words like “progressive” to be looked down upon, forget about “socialism” and “communism”. Nepalese rebels were challenging a state that was politically aligned to the mighty USA – a country basking on a dizzying high-tech boom and portrayed as the flag bearer of the only surviving ism in the world.

In the ten years since the beginning of the armed conflict from a remote and impoverished district of Rolpa, the strength of the rebellion grew exponentially and spread to every district of Nepal. It took military interventions from the USA, India, and the UK to prop up and keep alive the Nepalese state, which was unpopular and widely discredited as corrupt. In the centre of this armed conflict was an institution, which the Maoists wanted to overthrow and other major ruling political parties wanted to keep. Today, Nepal is on the verge of becoming the first country in the 21^st century to overthrow a reigning monarch to give birth to a new republic.

As much as the Maoists are responsible for bringing down Nepal’s monarchy, the current king is equally responsible for its fall. Having being propped up by superpowers bent on eliminating the leftist ideology from the planet, mindful of the unpopularity of the ruling parties, and being inspired by the American support of dictator Pervez Musharraf in neighboring Pakistan, King Gyanendra chose to dismiss the political parties (even the royalist parties) from power and assumed complete control of the state in February 2005. Already despised, rightly or wrongly, by many Nepalese as a prime hand behind the massacre of King Birendra and his entire family, Gyanendra became a political liability to India, USA and Britain if they were to continue military support to him. However, the regime could not hang on to power without their military support. In light of the fact that the rebels controlled most of Nepal’s territory and were on the verge of taking over Nepal, the newly elected government of India chose to see a pact between the parliamentary parties and the Maoists as the best possible scenario to avoid a bloody confrontation that was appearing more certain every passing day. Having been cornered by the king and the military on one side and the Maoists on the other, the political parties were on the verge of being obliterated. At the same time, having controlled rural Nepal already, but unable to capture the major cities and the capital, the Maoists were in stalemate and in need of the support of the mainstream parties to takeover the cities. While parliamentary parties and the Maoists found advantage in cooperating, Gyanendra emerged as the lone enemy for every major political force. This led to signing of the Twelve-point Memorandum of Understanding in November 2005 by the Seven Party Alliance and the Maoists to foment a united “movement to end the autocratic monarchy”. This united front received unprecedented support from the populace. This swept away Gyanendra’s free reign in April 2006 and gave rise to the current situation.

The strongest party in the last parliament was the Nepali Congress (NC), a royalist party which had obtained its electoral success in Tarai plains and remote mountains where illiteracy, poverty, and superstition ruled and where marginalized people dwelled. Using the deeply rooted religious belief among the illiterate that the king is an incarnation of God, and boasting of having the right economic policies on the grounds of being opposed to public enterprises, the party received sufficient votes from the far-right as well as from the illiterate voters. The more educated and urban areas were generally the strongholds of the Communist Party of Nepal – United Marxist Leninist (UML) on the basis that they stood for human equality. However, when it came to ruling, the NC and UML had disappointed the people terribly and they were discredited as being corrupt. They worshipped the symbol of unity – King – but engaged in partition politics and disrespected each other’s views. They revered the symbol of wealth – Capitalism – but delivered a poverty ridden and remittance sustained economy. They admired the symbol of people’s power – Democracy – but chose to militarily crush political opponents who demanded a fair constitution and a republic. They sloganeered for the symbol of equity – Socialism – but segregated little children as English boarding schools goers, public school sluggers, and child-servants; blatantly neglected the poor; and corrupted the public institutions. Thus these political parties had lost the core support of the ordinary people, creating a fertile ground for the growth of a new force that stood for the people.

What seemed to be ironic in Nepal was that the party to rule the most number of years, NC, calls itself a democratic socialist party. It also seems to have successfully hijacked the “liberal democracy” brand from the political vocabularies. Although NC was successful to cozy up with USA using this brand, there was no electoral advantage in the “brand USA” that invaded Iraq on false grounds and propped up King Gyanendra against the aspirations of the Nepalese people. Further, USA builds no credibility with the people of Nepal by being the lone country on the planet to put Maoists on their terrorist list. The UML also attempted to unsuccessfully take the space of the NC as a “democratic socialist” and “liberal democratic” party but this brand was already tarnished by NC-UML deeds of the past.

Although the actual policies of the Maoists seem to be not far from democratic socialism, they were able to create a distinct brand and vocabularies for presenting their political package to the people. For example, they refer to democracy with the term Ganatantra and not the NC branded term Prajatantra, which literally means monarchical-democracy. The term Ganatantra, however, indicates a republican democracy and clearly disassociates itself from the monarchy. Maoists championed the cause of a constituent assembly and a republic and in turn were able to take the principal credit for it. Other parties only unsuccessfully attempted to portray as the leaders for the cause of the constituent assembly and the republic but the people had not forgotten the fact that the same parties chased Maoists to the jungle for bringing up those very demands. Similarly, Maoists do not use terms like “Marxist Leninist” as used by UML but call themselves Maoists giving a sense of new brand in the eyes of the politically literate and the not-so-literate. Although this fierce sounding Maoists brand did not win the heart of President Bush for them, it did win the hearts and minds of the marginalized people of Nepal and emerged as a household name. This unique branding helped them to appear different than the parties that were perceived by the people as corrupt or inept, and translated into votes for them.

Beginning from the 1950s, the Madhesi, Janajati, and Dalit had lost the most number of lives to bring NC to power but the NC delivered nothing to them except for further marginalization. Whereas only two Koiralas had managed to win actual election during their landslide electoral victory in the 1959 parliamentary election, the Central Committee of the NC formed soon after the election had four Koiralas, all from the same family. Therefore, intra-party monarchy was already in the making within the NC by the 1960s. Whereas the names of martyrs of the 1990 political uprising shows 45% hill Janajati and Dalit, 22% Madheshi, and 33% hill Brahmin Chhetri, subsequent parliaments, governments and the bureaucracy were overwhelmingly dominated by hill Brahmins and Chhetris.

The most distinguishable aspect of the Maoists is that so far they have lived up to their slogans and have shown by example what they mean by inclusion and people empowerment. For the first time in the history of Nepal, the last names of the members of parliament look like a reflection of Nepal as a whole. Today, partial result shows that 20% of popularly elected candidates of the Maoists are women whereas NC has one woman and UML has none – an example of feudal dominance in those parties. Surprisingly, Maoist women have 5% higher wining rate than their male counterparts whereas NC and UML women have almost invariably lost. The Madheshi groups that emerged as the fourth largest group in the parliament also carry similar political views as the Maoists. Never in the history of Nepal had so many Dalit, Janajati, Madheshi, Muslim, and women gained electoral success. These people have given the first test of electoral defeat to big party leaders, ministers, and even a former prime-minister. This shows that the awareness of rights of the marginalized groups brought by the Maoists in the last decade is not mere propaganda but one of a kind to be written in the history of people empowerment and inclusion.

Now that the Maoists have won the mandate of the people, they have this enormous challenge to continue building on the foundations of inclusion and people empowerment. Now that they have taught the population not to be fooled by slogans alone, they need to deliver on what they promised. They must deliver the republic, an inclusive and democratic constitution, inclusive education, drastic reduction in corruption, law and order, peace, and stability so that a foundation for prosperity could be built. As the decade long conflict is coming to a conclusion, they should not invest the time and energy of their cadres in fighting with the opposition that was seeking a “humiliating defeat for the Maoists”. Instead, they should pour all energy into delivering intra-party democracy, popular democracy, and relief to people. When it comes to development, mobilize the people and let them take charge of their own future in a fair and equitable environment. They themselves will do a better job than what one spin-doctor can do from Singha Durbar. Because a knowledge economy is going to be the largest economy of the future, the economic wellbeing of the society will hinge on its capacity to produce and distribute knowledge. Nepal must, therefore, expend more energy on education and information highways than asphalt roads as envisaged by the policy makers of the parties including the Maoists.

That those who resisted change have been sidelined by the people, let there be positive changes and let there be peace, prosperity, and a true democracy in Nepal!

 

प्यारी केटी दिदी
 हामी लाई भन्दा नयाँ नेपालको आवस्क्यकता सेवकी देबी ,र परिवार दिदी जस्ता लाई धेरै छ
होला  ले आफु ( Ph.D holder)ठुलि,   हामीहरु धेरै कुरा जान्ने जस्तो लग्ला तर निम्न बर्गिय यी दिदी हरु को समस्या को जरो सम्मा हामी पुग्नै सक्दैनौ । उनिहरु सम्बिधन बनाउने method जान्दैनन् तर आफ्ना समस्याहरु कोलागि हाम्रो (master/Ph.D.) भन्दा पनि धेरै ज्ञान हुन्छ उनिहरु सँग.....

New Nepal need to know the problems they r facing & their ideas and logic for their problems.....

As we have already enough educated people C.A....so these educated people can address the problems of that Didi r facing & can draft the New Constitution accordingly....

so i see the bright road ahead....what u say..?

jay nepal..

Well said, Arnico, Sagun, Pramod Dhakal and Uttam Babu Shrestha.

 

Even if the intuitive knowledge and life experiences of Tatma and Pariyar didiharu could not directly make a way into, the symbolism and benchmark they have created are going to make a deep impact into the whole constitutional and the downstream processes.

 

In other words, it is a win-win situation.

 

It’s disheartening to see that some of us are still detached from the actual socio-political dynamics of Nepal and pass the judgment based on our elitist bias and indifference.

 

Tatma and Pariyar didharu are not our embarrassment. They are our pride. Pride of how unapologetically are we creating a rule that is fair to all and respects all, as Uttambabu has explained in his excellent article.

 

Nepe