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I salute NA chief Katuwal! What u guys think about his answers? I think this guy deserve the best and NA is the only institution that we can trust now. F.aa.k the terrorist Source: February 13, 2009 सेना र माओवादी नेतृत्वको सरकारबीच केही समयदेखि एउटा व्यर्थको विवाद चर्किएको छ। रक्षा मन्त्रीले सेनालाई नयाँ भर्ना नलिऊ भनेर आदेश दिन्छ भने सेना चाहिँ नयाँ भर्ना लिएको हैन, पुरानै दरबन्दीमा राखिएको हो भन्छ। रक्षामन्त्रीले सरकारको आदेश नमान्ने सेनाका अधिकारीलाई कारबाही गर्छु भन्दै हिँडेका छन्। तर गर्न केही सकेका छैनन्। त्यही रक्षा मन्त्रालय नदिने भन्दै काँग्रेसलाई नसमेटी माओवादीले सरकार बनाएको थियो। अहिले रक्षा मन्त्रालय हातमा भएर पनि माओवादीले गर्न सकेको केही हैन। यो हिसाबमा वर्तमान रक्षामन्त्री रामबहादुर थापा बादल इतिहास कै सबैभन्दा नालायक रक्षामन्त्री साबित भएका छन्। उनी सरकारको आदेश नमान्ने सेनालाई कारबाही गर्छु भन्दै जनतालाई भाषण सुनाउँदै हिँडेका छन्। रक्षा मन्त्रालय उनकै हातमा छ। कानुन अनुसार कारबाही गर्न पाउने अधिकार पनि उनकै हातमा छ। तर उनी कारबाही गर्दैनन्, खाली नानाभाँतीका भाषण गर्दै हिँड्छन्। कारबाही नै गर्ने हो भने कसले रोकेको छ र उनलाई। यदि उनी आफ्नो आदेश पालना गराउन सक्दैनन् भने किन त्यो व्यर्थको रक्षा मन्त्रीको पदमा बसिरहनु ? सेना परिचालन गर्न खोज्दा नसकेर रक्षा मन्त्रालयको समेत कार्यभार सम्हालेका तत्कालीन प्रधानमन्त्री गिरिजाप्रसाद कोइरालाले जस्तो खुरुक्क राजीनामा दिए हुन्छ। नभए सेनालाई कारबाही गर्छु यो गर्छु र ऊ गर्छु भन्दै जथाभावी फलाक्दै विवाद बढाउँदै हामी नागरिकहरुलाई सुनाएर केही हुनेवाला छैन। कानुन आफ्नै हातमा, सरकार आफ्नै हातमा- जे गर्ने हो खुरुक्क गरे हुन्छ। नभए चुप लागेर बस्नु नि। विवाद किन ? यही विवादका विषयमा छलफल गर्न आज संविधान सभाको एउटा समितिको बैठकमा प्रधानसेनापति रुक्माङ्गद कटवाललाई बोलाइएको थियो। कटवालले बैठकमा निकै चर्का कुरा गरेछन्। उनले भनेछन्- हाम्रो (सेनाको) इमान्दारी र सच्चाइ कति छ भनेर छाति चिरेर देखाउन म हनुमान त होइन नि। नेपाली सेनाका जवानलाई पनि बोल्न आउँछ, मुख हाम्रा पनि छन्, ठाउँ पनि छ तर हामी नियम कानुनमा बाँधिएका छौं र त्यसैअनुरूप सेना चल्नुपर्छ र चल्नेछ। संविधानसभा, राष्ट्रिय हित संरक्षण समितिको बैठकमा समितिका सदस्य समेत रहेका रक्षामन्त्री रामबहादुर थापा ‘बादल’ भने उपत्यका बाहिर रहेकाले उपस्थित थिएनन्। नत्र जुहारी सुन्न अझ बढी मजा हुन्थ्यो। उनको अभावमा एकोहोरो कटवालको बोली सुन्नुपर्यो। प्रधानसेनापति कटवालले विषयमा उठेका विवाद अनावश्यक र अनुचित भएको बताउँदै यसो भने- मैले सैन्य भर्नाका सम्बन्धमा जथाभावी बोल्दै हिँडेको छैन। सेनाले नागरिक सर्वोच्चतालाई सम्मान गरिरहेको छ। तर यो विषयलाई राजनीतिक विवादको विषय बनाइएमा यसले राष्ट्रहित गर्दैन। अब यी शब्दका अर्थ तपाईँ आफै लगाउनुस्। सभासदहरुले सेना र रक्षा मन्त्रालयबीच देखिएको विवादका विषयमा स्पष्ट जवाफ दिन आग्रह गरेका थिए। तर प्रधानसेनापति कटवालले भने- यो रक्षा मन्त्रालय र नेपाली सेनाबीचको आन्तरिक विषय हो। (तिमीहरु चुप बसे हुन्छ भनेर चाहिँ भनेनन्, तर भन्न खोज्या चैँ त्यस्तै हो कि ?) यत्तिकैमा अर्का सभासद उफ्रिए- ह्वाँ देशका विभिन्न भागमा सीमा मिचिएको मिचियै छ, तर सेनाचाहिँ किन चुपो लागेर बस्या नि ? कटवालले भने - सेना आफैँ बन्दुक बोकेर उफ्रने होइन। यो सरकारको सेना हो। र सरकारकै निर्देशन अनुरूप चल्छ। अहिले नेपालमा सैनिक शासन छैन। त्यसैले त्यस्ता सीमा मिचिएको विषयमा सेनाले आफैँ निर्णय गर्न सक्दैन। उनले नेपालमा अहिले सैनिक शासनको सम्भावना समेत नरहेको बताए। नेपालको अखण्डता र र्सार्वभौमिकताका निम्ति नेपालको राष्ट्रिय झण्डा बोकेर हिँड्ने प्रतिबद्धता नेपाली सेनाको रहेको उनले बताए। कटवालले नेपाली सेनाप्रति कसैको मनमा शङ्का रहेको भए त्यो अनावश्यक हो भन्दै “बनको बाघले भन्दा मनको बाघले खाने” परिस्थिति सिर्जना गर्नु उपयुक्त नभएको बताए। सभासद् दीपप्रकाश उपाध्यायले भने- तल्लो तहका सेनाका जवानलाई अधिकृतहरुको घरघरमा काम लगाउने प्रवृत्ति रहेको छ नि। अनि समावेशी प्रक्रियामा कमी रहेको भन्ने गुनासो पनि छ नि। प्रधान सेनापतिले जवाफ दिए, घरघरमा काममा लगाइएका भनिएका तल्लो तहका सेनाका जवानलाई सम्बन्धित ठाउँबाट हटाउने कार्य भइरहेको छ। सबै हटाउनका लागि केही समय त लाग्छ। नेपाली सेनालाई समावेशी बनाउन विशेष प्रयत्न गरिएको छ। मधेसीमात्र समावेश रहेको एक सैन्य पल्टन जलेश्वरमा स्थापना भइसकेको छ। अन्य जाति र समुदायका युवाका समेत सैन्य पल्टन रहेको छ। सभासदहरुले समितिको बैठकमा सुझाव दिनु पर्नेमा उल्टो हामीहरुलाई प्रशिक्षण दिए जस्तो गर्न खोजेको भन्दै आपत्ति पनि जनाए। त्यसको जवाफमा उनले भने, म प्रशिक्षक बन्न आएको हैन। शासनसत्तामा जस्तो परिवर्तन भए पनि सेनाले त्यसलाई मान्छ। बढी भन्नु केही छैन। तपाईँको चाहिँ केही भन्नु छ कि यस विषयमा ?
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demoqwasi
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Posted on 02-13-09 4:57
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He is the man.. Nepal needs more heroes like him.. MY BIG SALUTE !!!
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liveyourlife
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Posted on 02-13-09 5:26
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Ya...that's how we roll... Royal Nepalese Army. He's got the Balls.
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darknight
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Posted on 02-13-09 6:08
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yep...he's a true nepali patriot. unlike that a$$hole pushpa kamal dhaal
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shiva_linga
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Posted on 02-13-09 6:13
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tyasai world ko ek matra authentic gorkhali fauj ko COAS bhako manchhe ta hoina ni . NABIRAUNU NADARAUNU-GORKHALI MOTTO
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timer
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Posted on 02-13-09 8:02
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Sorry guys, We need to salute the guy Rukma, because he was in the time a) when previous king was killed b) 10,000 nepali was killed in the name of civil war c) most currpted army personals in history d) every part of history where India had dominated Nepal But respect all the army personals who worked for the country. Sorry again
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shao
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Posted on 02-13-09 8:54
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yes timer you are right? why the ppl just go after the crow.................................??????????????
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zeran
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Posted on 02-13-09 10:03
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Here is the things: 1. In democracy, army institution should follow the government formed by the people votes. 2. He is really 'Hanuman" coz he couldn't save our land . 3. He is one of the guy who order to kill in janaandolan 063. guys i was one of the people in tripureshwor when army starts firing from helicoptor and from police post side to bagmati bridge. So, if i got chance, i would rather spit in his face frens.. coz he with kamal thapa is the main actor to suppress the janaandolan. So i have only one adjective for him--- KILLER.... So guys please don't praise him who killed more than 30 people during janaandolan... i would say better remove this thread from sajha... .... Jaya Nepal....
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KaleKrishna
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Posted on 02-13-09 10:20
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I feel the army should not be demoralized for any petty interest and short sighted strategy. They when manipulated can become resiatant and take over the government as it is seen in many countries, and if fear psychology is to rule, they are professionals and paid for that. However, their commitment for the chain of command and respect need to be understood and respected with no attached strings. Political interference will only spoil them and make them ambitious for misadventures. What the army did in the past was the duty that was commanded by those who were at the helms of affairs, hence the blame if any should go to the one who commanded and not who did the duty. In a nation when those cowards and flighters of the fighting times now come to street protesting and demanding their promoted reinstation, the brave servants dedicating their lifetime for the cause of the nation needs respect and right space. Let us not play with the army, and as the minister I find it so immatured on the part of the cloudy brain to shout foul in public when he is supposed to be the one managing things in the house affair.
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MN_Nepali
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Posted on 02-13-09 10:33
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Acts of terrorism cannt be called janaandolan. maoists are terroris and will remeain terrorists. There is no reason for anyone to take orders from them.
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zigkbcnp
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Posted on 02-13-09 10:35
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He is talking real Nepal real Nepali people., a real Gorkhali., Nepal need a brave man like him., He has my full support..,
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ek@l
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Posted on 02-13-09 11:05
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the only reason i brought this issue here is because: i)army tried to accept the change but the terrorist organization have been trying to use them for their sake and he offend them ii) he is more qualified than those so called 'Sabhasad" who raise the issue, "india le atikraman garda army ke herdai cha?" iii) he always said in public,he don't have problem with the army integration but all should meet the international standard to qualify in NA some guys raise the questions about, 10000 lives, late king birendra and so on. Guys, we should see the government that time too besides army. if the question is 10000 lives, those killer is in govt now. and at this point, katuwal is trying to save few hundred thousand lives coz we all know if these terrorist control Nepal army, we r finished.
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eternalbliss
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Posted on 02-13-09 11:33
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Everybody knows he was hanuman of Gyane, the autocrat. The motto of Nepal Army was 'Sripech Bhakti Hamro Shakti'; not jana bhakti hamro shakti or des bhakti hamro shakti. Instead of being army of a country, they always acted as if they were the body guard of a family. And still, neither they could protect the family in durbar hatyakanda, nor could they protect the continuation of monarchy, their main motto. They are thus nothing more than a group of coward feeding on the hard earned tax paid by poor Nepali who earn less than $1 a day. India has enroached so many parts of the country, and he doesn't feel ashamed being the chief of army. What a coward army chief! You can hate maoist, but does that necessarily mean that you should support this sucker. But you not only support but salute the chief of army whose heart doesn't pain when another country enroach our national border, who spent his whole life guarding a family and eventually even failed to do so. Great. Keep it up!
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sujitcha
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Posted on 02-14-09 2:55
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They said they need 1 lakh to get in to Army when I tried to apply............shit holes.........they just need money or they need people from kingpins...........destroy them........they are no use ...........kill this bastard too.................paisa ko chela haru.........all revolves around money............they dont want to work for people...........
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Prad
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Posted on 02-14-09 10:06
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@eternalbliss: I would like to discuss with you on this topic face to face but I dont have patience and time to look for ur comment/response every hour and then respond to it. Just wanted to let you know few things. You said "he was hanuman of Gyane".. and "Sripech Bhakti Hamro Shakti" stuff.. if that is what you call to a loyal person then I think he's a Hannu.. coz King was the head of their institution back then.. You tell me how they could prove be the army of the people and not the King?? Army has helped Nepali poeple in all sorts of time.. during natural disasters, to build nation's infrastructures... Army never goes around like politicians and interacts directly with people.. yeah.. there were times when they could have taken their own stand but I hope you know what they call when army TAKES THEIR STAND... the rats smell a COUP.. About Durbar Hatyakanda.. how can the Army interfere in a family matter... well.. if you believe that it was a plot by outsiders... no surprise.. you are like one of us who likes to hear interesting news and imagine.. About the $1 comment.. I feel its just ur anger formatted in the best possible way you could.. I could have got back to you big time on this one talking about gas station job and illegal status in US but no low blows... "India has enroached so many parts of the country..." Have you read what others have posted before you? if not please do so before spilling ur preconcieved vile.. and if you dont think that is logically.. please add ur LOGIC.. And yeah I think it is necessary to inform you that I am not a military personnel or have any kinda relation with the current COAS.. but I do have a huge relation with army as I was raised in Army quarters and studied in Army School.. It hurts to see Army being politicized and Army getting corrupt. It also hurts when someone posts a comment just out of hate towards them...
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zigkbcnp
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Posted on 02-14-09 11:08
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Well said Prad, as you said coward rats smells COUP., Its not the COUP yet., he has not gained all the power yet.., if he does it wud be good for the country.., he is far more macho and trustworthy than so called patriot coward crows leaders.,
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raju161
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Posted on 02-14-09 1:35
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nepal army lai naramro bhanne shittt what a pathetic fagots...... we are proud of our Nepalese army standing like a frontier in our country no dhotis no chinese or anyone else have thought about invading us in the few years before now see dhoti backed up prachende and are so reluctant to give our lands to dhotis they even don't care to come in our land and irrigate them ....now if india says you fart prachende is goanna do that toooo ...and lastly if you are planning to say anything against General katwal who is the adopted son of mother Queen ...i say all you maoist suc my poppppp
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MN_Nepali
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Posted on 02-14-09 3:33
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Nepal army lai namro bhannea haro are Indian and Chinise agents. We should go an a which hunt and kill them all before they destrol Nepal.
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