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Lahure Kancha
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Posted on 12-19-09 1:36
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1. Because SHE can be herself, TOTALLY INDEPENDENT. 2. Dress how SHE wants and what SHE wants (WITHOUT ANYBODY'S OBJECTION OR LEWD REMARKS!!) 3. Utmost respect and protection from LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. (In Nepal Police officer can walk freely after raping their own colleague) 4. Can work INDEPENDENTLY, don't have to be DEPENDENT ECONOMICALLY. 5. WRITE INDEPENDENTLY, without a fear of anybody!! 6. She can get GOOD Education!! 7. BOTTOM LINE SHE CAN BE HERSELF, NO RESTRICTION , SHE CAN DECIDE FOR HERSELF!! TOTAL FREEDOM FROM "MALE CHAUVINIST SOCIETY!!"Just a sample of what SHE can get being in USA!! To all the Chauvinist Out there, IF YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THE CHANGE, THEN YOUR EXTINCTION IS INEVITABLE!! P.S: Please do write MORE GOOD THINGS about YOUR DAUGHTER, SISTER OR MOM BEING IN USA EDIT: Use of MUST in Subject line is mere reply to the thread that's going around with title MUST NOT!!I agree MUST is a very STRONG word!! (Thanks for noticing soullesseye)
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NightElf
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Posted on 12-19-09 1:46
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I have seen educated Nepali women with respectable and well paying jobs getting married and quitting their job because her new family told her that she needs time for the family and kids. In USA, my Nepali sister wont be treated as a machine for producing children and taking care of elderly. *change is good or bad depending on your point of view, but it is inevitable*
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Posted on 12-19-09 2:47
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i agree with Lahure kanche and NightElf, as US can't be compared with any other country of the world.. not any means not any.. US is great with many things.. as for Girls this is a safe heaven then any other country, which includes our own country.. yeah there are crime here but that happen with the girls who are with bad habbits.. As it is a free country, their is space for the bad and the good.. and people who has bad comments are those who has not got chance to see the positive side for the men/women doing great jobs here.. i personally know they are doing really great.. believe me guys in Mass nepali men/women are almost in every top banks.. yeah they might not be in top positions yet but still they are doing great what ever they are trying. and the fact is that we nepal only pull our own peoples leg. but once we complete and enter corporate world, people starts having problem with nepali people. its due to the hard working ability, we are only unproductive if we are working in Nepal.. but here we work so hard no matter what the reason is.. it might be for better pay in job review or anythings else.. anyways back to the main line, i think its all up to parents hand.. if you have enough confidance on your child then do send them here in US.. if you don't have then don't send here. one more thing guys come to US is not like going to india, UK, AUS or any other european countries.. that person really has to be very talented...P.S it does not applies to the one who are here Vis Winning DV lottery or any other means...
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Eagle5
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Posted on 12-19-09 3:00
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Your point is well taken laure kancha, but sad part is whether their independence is yielding really good thing or mediocre life or even worst life than they would get in Nepal. I feel sad for those who already crossed 30 and still craving for a life partner, not to mention many goes to parties/ana for this sole purpose. Second thing is if you do not have fear of anything and you feel you are totally independent then that means you are isolating yourself from all the values and virtues that you may have earned from your parents during your upbringing. Just because you think you are in US you do not need to think as if you are going to concur the world. Male or Female, total indecency is not possible as long as you denounce all the social norms and principles, give up all the responsibilties, give up your uncanny desire and etc etc. for that you need to be " jogi". I do not want to use derogatory words like others have put against the some of the " skin showing " party girls, but I do want to advise those just think " with that sort of outfit and life how many guys/or rest of world gonna respect you for yous independency ?". most of the people would want to get laid with those than be married with..if you opt to chose that life, it is totally upto you. Girls from nepal has not been able to send good vibe amongst the nepalese community, why? just think about that as well-no harm in thinking! stating mere political word like " MALE CHAUVINIST SOCIETY!!" may not necessarily makes you good writer or good thinker. In personal level, without prejudice I have seen more worst than the good about the Nepalese girls in US. I might say, sending teenage girl in US is not the great idea. "Period!
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Pure_Enquiry
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Posted on 12-19-09 3:24
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Lahure Kancha
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Posted on 12-19-09 4:08
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Hey Lets not be "MORAL POLICE" here !! "FREE TO CHOOSE"1. who gave us RIGHT to say which dress is decent and which one is indecent?? 2. If somebody decided to make Love/have Sex/Get Laid/ or just F*** let them do what they Please , who are WE do JUDGE THEM?? Who gave us RIGHT to be MORAL POLICE?? [if you can , just educate them about the SAFE SEX] 3. Girls from NEPAL and ELSE WHERE have ALREADY SENT A GOOD VIBE and that VIBE IS "WE ARE FREE TO CHOOSE", if you can't receive that VIBE and want to ACT MORAL POLICE then PLEASE VISIT THE NEAREST "PSYCHIATRIST"!! 4. How can LENGTH of the CLOTHES, judges somebody's character?? Also, how Short is Decent enough and HOW SHORT is indecent?? {My Suggestion to anybody who wants to come to USA (or any place outside your home town/city/country}--> Life is Tough, we have to Struggle, but there will be REWARD for HARD-WORK!! What you get in RETURN totally DEPENDS on what YOU PUT IN!! "Just like its hard for the Chick(baby bird) to fly away from its NEST, the initial steps/flight will be tough, but ones you know how to FLY, you'll scale the HEIGHT OF THE SKY and you are FREE TO ROAM!!" Everybody has OPTIONS and CHOICES, what you CHOOSE is solely based upon YOURs OWN JUDGMENT!! " MALE CHAUVINIST SOCIETY!!" is not a political word!!!!
STOP BEING A MORAL POLICE!! Enjoy your LIFE and LET OTHERS ENJOY TOO!! EVERYBODY HAS RIGHT TO "FREE TO CHOOSE"
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Cartmann
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Posted on 12-19-09 4:34
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मैले जे भन्छु भनेर आएको थेये, लाहुरे जी ले सबै भन्नु भएछ अनि बाकी साथी हरुले पनि! धेरै कुरा हरु छन् येहा जो हामी र हाम्रा नारी हरुले सिक्न सक्छौ, इयो त सबै को अफ्फ्नो आफ्नो इच्छा हो, कसैले राम्रो कुरा सिक्छन अनि कोहि नराम्रो, नराम्रो कुरा केटि हरु अमेरिका मा मात्र सिक्चन भन्ने छैन, नेपाल मा नै धेरै नै strict आमा बाउ छोरा छोरि पनि गति छाडेका छन्, सायद मैले उदाहरण लिरख्नु पर्दैन होला, नेपाल मा पनि केटा हरु भन्थे सहर का केटि भन्दा गाउ का केटि धेरै असल, सुसिल हुन्थे भनेर तर त्यो पनि केटि हरुमा भर पर्ने कुरा हो, गाउँमा गोठालो जादा केटि हरुलाई केटा हरुसंग रामलिला गर्दा भेटइ एको नै थियो, अनि आफ्नो पोइ हुदा हुदा अर्को संग रात बिताको पनि आफ्नै आखाले देख्या थेयो, अनि एस्लाई चाही के भन्ने? इयो त झन् नेपाल मा प्लुस नेपाल को धेरै consergative गाउँ को कुरा, त्यो गाउँ जहाँ आफ्ना बाउ अम्मा ले छोरि लै पैन्ट लाउन देदैनाथेय, गाउँ बाट बजार जानु पर्र्यो भने पनि कोहि आफ्नो दाजु भाइ, अथवा चाची, दिदि ,बहिनि नभै पथौदैनाठेय, so bad and good sabai thau ma cha, its nothin like only in US or only in NEPAL.. long story short, for all you people who think sending gal to US is not good idea might wana check back on your daughter or sister back in home who might be sleeping in jungle or backyard.. or might be stripping in the clubs and making some porn video while being GOOD girl at home.. and oh if you have Wife back in home then by the time you get there she will be leaving you for another guy with all $$ you sent from here or who knows she has a part time job as an escort.
my Middle Finger goes to all the MALE CHAUVINIST SOCIETy outthere
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Eagle5
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Posted on 12-19-09 5:26
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laure kancha, some of ur statements indicates nothing but a teenage exuberance and unrealistic fictitious arguments. " Free to Choose"- well, your freedom relates only to limited freedom what you see is in appearance, realistically in your own same political world " MALE CHAUVINIST SOCIETY!" existed and still exists in US than in US and that too in WHITE AMERICANS, let alone the story of IMMIGRANTS. I do not want to teach you here the Social Science but make no mistake you are getting more freedom and oppurtunites and just because you got into US OF A you are more talented that anyother girl living in NEPAL. -for ex-how many women are single mother here? - what is the highest position that a woman got here? -when did they get voting right? -why there is disparities in wages between woman and man in your US of A? -Cilton's Sex Scandal, Ex nyc Governer's sex scandal, John Edward's scandal, Mark Sanford sex scandal and list goes on..what do you have to say about that? Not Male dominated? or in your term " woman enjoyed? not to mention- -how many are stripper?/how many get into drugs and prostitution?-well you would say they are free to do right? yes, but in that case entire society has to pay for the consequences for you anarchical freedom and that is why society does moral policing, directly through government/legislative measure and indirectly by socio-cultural norms. What is your freedom-living alone, living together with BF, living as a single mother, working as an independent corporate worker or having a good place in society where you are a proud mother, respected professional? Yeah length of cloth should not be the parameter for judging own's character but " how many Iron Ladies were produced from the SEMI NUDE PARTY and Strip BAR?" Regarding the moral choice/moral police- society and social norms always does that part irrespective of legislative arrangement or constitutional rights. You might be too young to understand and acknowledge this fact " ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE CURTAIN HAPPENS EVERYWHERE BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN FRONT OF CURTAIN IS ALWAYS AS SUBJECT TO MORAL POLICING-WHICH SOCIETY DOES" Before comparing-get into real crux!!
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Posted on 12-19-09 6:06
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*"Must" is a very strong word, my friend, due to which your statement is paying the price. I do not see any degree of freedom in your statement. Also, an argument with only one side is just another attempt for a brainwash.
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Lahure Kancha
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Posted on 12-19-09 6:45
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Firstly I would like to clarify about myself: I assume you are thinking i'm a teenage lady!(is it cause i talk about WOMAN RIGHTS??).....In reality I'm a MALE and I crossed Teenage approx. 8 years back!! Also, I would like to Clarify, there is nothing called PERFECT SOCIETY!! But definitely I'll choose FREE SOCIETY than Others!! (remember SOCIETY has nothing to with NATIONALITY)!! 1. Single Woman= isn't that a good things that A SINGLE MOM CAN RAISE A KID HERE comfortably, (and that KID can be a PRESIDENT of USA one DAY!!!(read President Obama)!!2. Legal issues(WAGE-VOTING RIGHT), who is saying this is the PERFECT SOCIETY, but they have TAKEN A MANY PROGRESSIVE MOVE (and wage difference is ILLEGAL at PRESENT)!! and i applaud that!! -------------------------------------------------------------- [a. at-least they don't fed human feces to WOMAN's citing them as WITCH, and parading them NUDE in PUBLICb. aren't we the one who appose EDUCATION FOR GIRL CHILD ( for decades??). c. Aren't we the one WHO CAN BURN WIFE with KEROSENE cause they can't bring ENOUGH DOWRY?? -------------------------------------------------------------- 3. SEX SCANDAL = its their personal choice!! 4. Stripper/Prostitution/Drugs= EXPLAIN me WHY and WHAT DOES ENTIRE SOCIETY HAS TO PAY??? [Its simple Law of Economics LAW OF DEMAND AND SUPPLY]....if DEMAND exists for Stripper and Prostitution, there will be SUPPLY!! Saying that, Who are WE TO SAY, that's WRONG??? Its their PERSONAL CHOICE!! [everybody has RIGHT to CHOOSE what they PLEASE] 5. Again about RESPECTED WOMAN STATUS= I understand that is your PERSONAL NORM, but you cannot DICTATE the SAME TERM AND CONDITIONS for OTHERS!! About SOCIAL NORM= WHO ARE WE TO DECIDE WHAT IS GOOD FOR OTHERS????@soullesseye: My Friend there is NO SIDE in PERSONAL CHOICE!! Again, the PROGRESS in SOCIETY (CIVILIZATION) was not achieved by the STATUS QUOIST....the PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE BY THOSE BRAVE SOUL WHO DARE to SWIM AGAINST THE CURRENT!!GO MY MOTHERS,SISTERS, DAUGHTERS AND MY FRIENDS THIS IS FREE WORLD!! DO WHAT YOU PLEASE!!
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no_quiero
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Posted on 12-20-09 12:04
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1. Single Woman= isn't that a good things that A SINGLE MOM CAN RAISE A KID HERE comfortably, (and that KID can be a PRESIDENT of USA one DAY!!!(read President Obama)!!
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This is the most stupid argument i have seen. Go check the police crime figures. Percentage of children brought up from single parents are involved in almarmingly high number of crimes. This was shown in newspaper few days earlier.
And it is quite obvious why. Most of the single parents are single because either their character is not good, are drug users etc (and not because of the death of one parents). Those single parents can never give good moral values and teachings to the children.
A single Mother in Nepal can bring a child up as a much much better person than in US. Because our society is closely knit .
================================================================ And based on the people's aregument it seems that the freedom means free to wear extremely short clothes, having easy sex etc. chane partners frequently etc.
If nepal is so freedomless and parents are conservative they why do the parents send their children abroad. Nepal is also a free society and at least in cities daughters are free to chose their careers. They were more than decent clothes.
I have one of my aunt (friend of my mom) in US. She has a daughter. The daugther is divorcee from a BLACK GUY. She lives with my aunt now and have grandchildren who is more black than brown . Not that being black is bad. But the languages those children speaks is rubbish and disgusting. Not only that when I was in US few months ago i was shocked to hear that she (the daughter) yells at her mom.
So please stop showing the rosy pictures of US. There is proabably as much bad aspect of US than in Nepal.
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Sexy In Sari
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Posted on 12-20-09 3:10
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SOMEONE STARTED A FOOLISH THREAD! KEHL KATHAM!!!, NOW WHY YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOU ARE SMART ASS. I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN YOU TWO.
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- Sexy In Sari
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Posted on 12-20-09 3:26
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abbbiii Sexy In Sari dada ..i love you ..you are typical nepali gay girl !!
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Cartmann
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Posted on 12-20-09 12:42
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nice picture sexy in sari(a real gay one), that must be you sniffing another -sexy in sari' ass
suits you
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