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Posted on 01-09-12 1:07
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पृथ्वीनारायण शाहको नाममा 'नेपाल दिवस' मनाउन प्रस्ताव
काठमाडौं, पुस २६ - पृथ्वीनारायण शाहको नाममा 'नेपाल दिवस' मनाउन विज्ञहरूले प्रस्ताव गरेका छन् । उनले राष्ट्रनिर्माणका साथसाथै राष्ट्रियताप्रति बलियो जगसमेत हालेकाले राजनीतिक दृष्टिकोणले मात्र हेर्न नहुनेसमेत उनीहरूको भनाइ छ ।
'मुलुकमा जस्तोसुकै राजनीतिक उथलपुथल भए पनि पृथ्वीनारायण शाहको योगदानलाई ओझेलमा पार्न मिल्दैन,' सीमाविद् बुद्धिनारायण श्रेष्ठले राष्ट्रिय एकता तथा २९० औं पृथ्वीजयन्ती मूल नागरिक समारोह समितिको अन्तक्रिर्यामा शनिबार भने, 'यदि उनले नेपाल एकीकरण नगरेको भए हामी छरपष्ट हुन्थ्यौं । उनी गोरखा राज्यका भएर पनि एकीकरणसँगै 'नेपाल' देशको नामकरण गरेर नेपाल राष्ट्रको जन्म दिएका हुनाले उनको जन्मोत्सवलाई विश्वभरका नेपालीले नेपाल दिवसका रूपमा मनाउँदा अन्यथा ठहर्दैन ।'
पृथ्वीनारायण शाहले १८२६ मंसिर १ गते नेपाल राज्यको नामकरण गरेका थिए । उनको दिव्योपदेशमात्र मनन गर्ने हो भने पनि कूटनीतिक, आर्थिक, सामाजिक दृष्टिकोणले महत्त्वपूर्ण रहेको श्रेष्ठ बताए । 'अब राज्य पुनर्संरचना हुँदा पृथ्वीनारायण शाहले भनेका सबै जातको फूलबारी बनाउन सक्नुपर्छ,' उनले भने, 'पृथ्वीनारायणलाई राष्ट्रवादको जडको रूपमा लिइनुपर्छ ।'
जनआन्दोलन २०६२/६३ पछि बनेको सरकारले पुस २७ गते मनाइँदै आएको 'राष्ट्रिय एकता तथा पृथ्वीजयन्ती' खारेज गरिसकेको छ ।
इतिहासविद् त्रिरत्न मानन्धरले पृथ्वीनारायण शाहले गोरखाको विस्तृतीकरण नभई नेपाल एकीकरण गरेकाले तत्कालीन इतिहासको विश्लेषण गर्दा त्यही बेलाको परिवेश तथा परिस्थिति अनुकूल लिनुपर्ने बताए । 'इतिहासलाई विश्लेषण गर्दा त्यही बेलाको आँखाले हेर्नुपर्छ, अहिलेको होइन', त्यो युद्धको युग भएकाले उल्लेख गर्दै उनले भने, 'इटली र जर्मनको एकीकरण पनि युद्धबाटै भएको थियो । पृथ्वीनारायण शाहको दोष औंल्याउनुपर्छ । तर उनी गणतन्त्रको भावनाविरोधी थिएनन् । चार जात छत्तीस वर्णको फूलबारी बनाउने उनै हुन् । कुनै राजाको होइन, देशको एकीकरण गर्ने व्यक्तिको सम्झनामा दिवस मनाउन सकिन्छ ।'
इतिहासविद् सुरेन्द्र केसीले पुर्खाले आर्जेको मुलुकको ऐतिहासिक, सांस्कृतिक सम्पदालाई सम्मान र संरक्षण गर्न सक्नुपर्ने बताए । राष्ट्रिय एकताका निम्ति प्रवर्द्धनमा जुटका द एक्सप्लोर नेपाल ग्रुप तथा गोरखा पर्यटनका अध्यक्ष भरत बस्नेतले पृथ्वीनारायणका दिव्योपदेशलाई ख्याल गर्न सकेमात्र पनि राष्ट्रियताको भावना पैदा हुने उल्लेख गरे ।
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IT_Guy
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Posted on 01-10-12 10:33
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Sidster is right.
Prithivi Naryan - An excellent Monarch, visionary, ambitious, smart and brave
Mahendra - Smart, good politician, had some economic vision, played China Card very well, ambitious.
They were the two (and only two) great kings as well as leaders of Nepal.
Most of the people say Birendra as a great king. But I like to say he was good king but not great leader. He ruled country with direct power for 2 decades and with indirect power for 1 decade. But did nothing, no progress, no vision, no development, no long term plan, no utilization of resources. If there was some visionary leader for 30 years Nepal would have been very much developed.
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 01-10-12 12:02
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If you guys were to look back at the 250 year history of Nepal and choose a leader/king/politician to lead the nation today, which leader/king/politician would you choose?
* BP Koirala
* Prithvi Narayan Shah
* Mahendra
* Bhimsen Thapa
* Chandra Shamsher Rana
* Jung Bahadur Rana
* Nani Maiya Dahal
* Arniko
Feel free to add names to this list.
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Posted on 01-10-12 12:24
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 01-10-12 12:36
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IT_Guy
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Posted on 01-10-12 1:42
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Posted on 01-10-12 1:46
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@Sidster
So, since you have heard and know about those three kings you assumed rest of the kings are all inbred lunatics, eh?
Few questions, under which king did slavery got abolished? Who was the king when Nalapani war was fought? Who abolished women sacrifices (witchcraft)?
Go ahead google them. The point of this is not trying to get an answer, but to make you understand that there is more than the summary that you provided. We have had good kings, lame kings and great kings. To summarize history in such a condescending fashion is not warranted. I am glad the Shah dynasty didn't continue but many of the kings we had were better than what you think and definately better than most of the present leaders.
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 01-10-12 2:16
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But strictly in terms of personality, looking back at Nepal's history, who in Nepal do you think had the personality to be able to do what ever it would take to get Nepal on track as she sits today? Who had the intelligence, the guts, the motivation, the chutzpah to do whatever it took to get Nepal back on track?
If you guys were to look back at the 250 year history of Nepal and choose a leader/king/politician to lead the nation today that could get Nepal back on track, which of these leaders/kings/politicians would you choose?
Which of these people has what it takes?
* BP Koirala
* Prithvi Narayan Shah
* Mahendra
* Bhimsen Thapa
* Chandra Shamsher Rana
* Jung Bahadur Rana
* Nani Maiya Dahal
* Arniko
Feel free to add names to this list.
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Posted on 01-10-12 2:22
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Nepal ran on the path built by Prithvi Narayan Shah till 1903 B.S., then on the path of Janga Bahadur Rana for 1 century, then on the path of Mahendra for 1/2 century till the end of Monarchy. Now it's changing. It will take few years to say on whose track Nepal will run. I hope new constitution will determine this.
Those three were the real leaders. Other kings and prime ministers were just supporting characters. Other leaders seen in background didn’t play any great role to change the political, social and cultural track of the country. They just followed these three. BP, GP, Surya Bahdur these all just fade out in the shadow of Mandenra Similarly all the Rana Prime ministers in the shadow of Janga Bahadur. They may have done some noticeable jobs but none of those leaders could change the track of country.
One thing was common in all these there was they were all dictators but nationalist. They didn’t allow people to progress but never allowed foreigners to impede internal affair. We can not unnecessarily blame Prithvi Narayan Shah for not being democratic because at that time situation was very different from today’s situation and what he did for unification is the great thing. Jung Bahadur Rana prevented country from being part of India but ruled autocratically and transferred power to the family. He can never be considered as a great leader because he and his family did no development at all in comparison to the rest of the world. Out of those three I like to say King Mahendra was most smart and visionary.
Mahedra had brain and brave both. He had not only vision, strength and will but also diplomatic idea to balance the foreign interference. I like to say he died before one decade. If he was in power for 1 more decade Nepal would have gotten a right track.
So if someone asks to choose names of the greatest leader of Nepalese history I will say both Prithvi Narayan Shah and Mahendra.
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Posted on 01-10-12 3:19
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IT_guy,
Excellent analysis!
So IT_GUY, if we were to identify common principles that worked for Prithvi Narayan Shah, Mahendra and Jung Bahadur Rana, what would they be? I am not saying that these principles are positive or negative. I am just studying it for the sake of history.
From your writing this is what I took away:
1) Autocracy
2) They prized power over all else and did whatever it took to get it.
3) They were able to use that power to keep Nepal united and healthy and keep sources of "disease" that would disrupt the common Nepali identity at bay using any means as necessary.
4) They were able to use their power to make the nation more healthy through incremental sustainable development.
Are there more principles than that?
And it is true that in the process of them doing the above they trampled on giving the citizenry all the freedom that that the citizens of Nepal would have ideally have wanted. Would you agree?
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Posted on 01-10-12 3:37
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When I was in Nepal, I didn't like BP. Maybe because he was the elder brother of GPK/MPK. Bur reading articles about him and few of his own writing, I think BP could have had the best interest for Nepal amongst all the leaders we have seen in last 100 years. Amar Singh Thapa, Bhakti Thapa generally come to my mind; but from your list I'd pick Prithvi Narayan Shah and BP. Prithvi, not because he loved Nepal that much, but primarily because he was not only a warrior but a great leader and ruler. He knew the best interest of Nepal and tried to follow it up in action, a trait that is as extinct as a good leader in Nepal.
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 01-10-12 3:42
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Stiffler,
What are qualities that you see in BP, Amar Singh Thapa or Bhakti Thapa that you feel made them great leaders? What about their personality and how they functioned made them great leaders?
What were the unique qualities in each of these three that made the Nepali people love each of these three? What were they able to do for Nepal?
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Posted on 01-10-12 3:43
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I will say lets not compare them because they were the heroes (may be villains for some) of different stories of different time.
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 01-10-12 3:48
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IT_Guy, please explain what you mean.
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Posted on 01-10-12 5:52
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Kiddo,
The whole Shah bansa except Prithivi and his sons were inbreds. Mahendra and Birendra were mentally and physically sound regardless of inbreeding.
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Posted on 01-11-12 1:34
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@ Sidster
You missed two names that contributed a lot for nepal
1. Bahadur Shah (only regent, not king)
2. Rana Bahadur Shah (extended nepal from Teesta to sutlej, he wanted to abolish caste based inequality too)
But you are right. Most of other kings were ineffectual.
@ Babal Khate
IMO, great leaders of nepal are:
1. Prithvi N Shah: I need no explanation
2. Jung Bahadur : He provided stability to nepal, preserved nationality, because of his shrewdness nepal was identified as an independent state in 1947 when british left india (I can oversee his dark side for this)
3. King Mahendra : Introduced nepal to international forum. He made nepalse people realize nepal is their own country, Jun sukai tantra aae pani aile samma nepal unkai vision ma chali raheko chha.
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Posted on 01-11-12 6:48
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Nalapani,
Extending Nepal's border is one type of growth and it is admirable and worthy.
For example there are leaders in the corporate world who increase the size of their company through mergers and acquisitions. Prithvi Narayan Shah, Bahadur Shah and Rana Bahadur Shah were those kind of leaders. They increased Nepal's borders through "mergers and acquisitions." Nepal is physically what it is because of them.
But over the long run, I feel it is those leaders that bring stability and make their nation function smoothly that are the truly great leaders. And in that, I think Jung Bahadur Rana and King Mahendra get a lot more credit than the others.
Nalapani, you said:
King Mahendra : Introduced nepal to international forum. He made nepalse people realize nepal is their own country, Jun sukai tantra aae pani aile samma nepal unkai vision ma chali raheko chha.
Can you explain what you mean by the above, please? Do you know of any article that describes Mahendra's vision in detail? I suppose this is quite important considering it is this that we are currently operating by. No?
I came across this:
http://books.google.com/books?id=MX22o4PJ3Q0C&pg=PA255&lpg=PA255&dq=king+mahendra's+vision+for+nepal&source=bl&ots=062sMdQsH4&sig=-9h_qVH43JxTHHnfBDfO2CpPVvs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=e44NT6zKGsGIiALq89DnAw&ved=0CGEQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=king%20mahendra's%20vision%20for%20nepal&f=false
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PRACHANDA
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Citizen of Nepal,
What are qualities that you see Prachanda that you feel makes him a great leader? What about his personality and how he functions makes him a great leader?
What are the unique qualities in Prachanda that makes Nepali people love him? What was he able to do for Nepal?
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Only stupid and lazy people will wait for time to tell them something. Smart people will find out the answer by actively finding out through hypothesis and experience.
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