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 221(g) administrative processing for F1

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Posted on 05-21-13 11:07 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Hi all,

I have been victimised by the blackbox 'administrative processing' while renewing my F1 visa in Ktm. I am doing my PhD in molecular biology (4 years into the program) in one of the best universities in the USA, and came to Nepal for a short visit. But my visa application was put into hold giving 221(g) form with the third option (administrative processing) checked after the interview on the 14th of May. 
What's frustrating is that I have no idea what the processing is for and how long it will take to get cleared. They also didn't ask for any supplemental infomation (like resume, research details, publication list etc) that is usually asked in cases under the TAL. So, I am very confused about what is going on.They kept only my passport and I20 and returned other documents to me. The consular said that everything is fine but that they would have to do some processing at the end of my interview.

Has anybody from Nepal ever been in a similar situation? How long should I expect to be in this limbo? I know a lot of cases from India and other countries being in similar situations, but have not heard anything about Nepalese being in such situation for F1 renewal (although it appears to be fairly common for H1b applications even in Nepal). 

Please let me know if anybody has anything to say about this issue! The wait and uncertainty is VERY frustrating.
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Posted on 05-21-13 11:58 PM     [Snapshot: 48]     Reply [Subscribe]
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That sucks bro.
Since you said that you're enrolled in one of the best programs in the State, and not many people make it up to there, maybe they're just trying to verify that you are actually enrolled in that school and the certificates/documents are not forged. if you're legit, there shouldn't be a problem - they'll probably renew your visa in a week or two.

on a different note, (this may not apply to your case but might be useful to other folks on a similar boat) one of my mentors once told me that if you're enrolled in a program like mol bio, immunology, etc, sometimes the DHS folks get freaked out for no reason - they assume that as an international, you can potentially harm the US by developing bioweapons and all that jazz with the knowledge you have. so, i was told not to mention terms like cloning, genetic modification, immunotherapy, etc (either in written or oral form) while conversing with the immigration officers because they'll often hold you from going out or coming in until they do some rigorous background checks and find out everything about you including where you crapped last time.

hope things will get resolved soon. now i'm scared that i might get held up next time i go for renewal 


 
Posted on 05-22-13 11:07 AM     [Snapshot: 181]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Lowkey, I was in the same boat 3 yrs ago. Dont worry, Biochemistry, Mol biology and other subjects are under radar. So just chill out and you will be cleared in 3-4 weeks. No need to worry. They will return your passport in a day or so and call you back to drop passport again for visa stamping. You can email me if you need more information. 

Take it easy, its normal. 

 
Posted on 05-22-13 12:23 PM     [Snapshot: 227]     Reply [Subscribe]
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here's my take on it ... based on real events - one of my friends re kyaa ;)

2007 - came to the US on F-1 for MS
2009- H-1B filed and denied
2009 - enrolled in another MS program, but visa had expired
2009 - bad luck kharab -DUI followed by DWI - Parole Oficer and AA Classes
2010 - To Nepal to get visa stamped
2010- Administrative Processing started - lasted 3 months-medical check - psychological check - alcohal abuse tests etc Pain ful
2011- Embassy denied visa
2011 - Got a new I-20 from the school- paid a semester fee upfront - reappeared for visa
2011- again administrative proces
2011- had the university directly contact embassy
2011 - reinterviewed, course details asked, DUI and DWI issues asked in details and then told to wait
2011 - finally issued visa after 1 month
2012- came to USA again

moral of the story - always have a designate driver

 
Posted on 05-22-13 1:07 PM     [Snapshot: 267]     Reply [Subscribe]
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FROM MURTHY.COM

What Are Security Checks?

An important aspect of Nonimmigrant Visa processing at U.S. Embassies and Consulates is the security check procedure. A security check is performed by immigration officials as a necessary part of each visa application. The individual annoyance of waiting for a delayed security check pales in comparison to the national security concern of carefully screening individuals who want to enter the U.S.
The uncertainty of the security check process and the often time-consuming delays can cause a potential visa applicant to wait an unspecified amount of time. Meanwhile, business plans, employment opportunities, major life events and holidays can pass without the issuance of a visa. The most common types of checks required are discussed below.

What are the Types of Security Checks?
Visa Condor Checks, are required for specified individuals. The exact criteria for which applicants this Check applies to are confidential. However, anecdotal evidence indicates that any one of a number of factors may trigger the need for Visa Condor Clearance:

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  • Travel to predominantly Muslim countries
  • Prior foreign military service in certain countries
  • Prior employment in sensitive sectors
  • Specialized training that may have military, intelligence or security implications
  • Birth or residency in certain countries, not limited to Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Indonesia, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Malaysia, Morocco, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Tunisia, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, Yemen., Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North, Korea, Sudan, Syria.

The U.S. Department of State reports that approximately 80% of Visas Condor clearances are completed within 30 days.

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Visa Donkey Checks are based on a “name hit”, meaning a name is similar to an individual of interest to U.S. authorities. In theory, the name hit is non nationality-specific. However, male applicants from Middle Eastern countries are most often subject to this type of check. Processing estimates for most Visa Donkey clearances take between 2 to 4 months, although long delays are no unheard of for a select few.

Visa Mantis Checks are required for individuals who are involved in any of the technologies included on a list of 15 areas. The Critical Fields List (CFL) of the Department of States Technology Alert List is very comprehensive and includes almost any field relating to military, weapons technology or intelligence. This includes biochemistry, chemical engineering, and certain medical research specialty fields. For example, a high school chemistry teacher from France intending to visit the U.S. could be subject to a Mantis Check. Most Mantis checks are completed within 10 weeks from the date of request by the consular officer.

Routine Criminal Checks are performed by immigration officials by using the Consular Lookout and Support System (also known as “CLASS”). This system contains information on criminal convictions, FBI records, and terrorist watch lists. The system is updated very regularly, and is a valuable tool of national security to immigration officials.



 
Posted on 05-22-13 7:55 PM     [Snapshot: 370]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 i think this kind of precessing is being more frequent these days. a friend of mine who is doing PhD in biophysics (also in ranked school) recently went through the same situation. THough he is back in US already, he went to nepal for a usual vacation and was put on hold while applying for the visa. I know him well as a smart kid and has a good undergrad gpa from a good school. He himself does not know why they put him on hold rather than told that was just for processing and checking. really frustrating.

 
Posted on 05-22-13 8:58 PM     [Snapshot: 406]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Thanks guys for sharing your experiences.

@bbmb: Do you know how long you friend had to wait and if he had to submit additional documents?

From what i know, people from India and Taiwan in similar situations were asked to submit resume, publication list, research summary etc, which were then sent to DC for clearance by the consulate. 

For me, my passport is still with them (9 days today) and haven't asked for anything other than what I submitted during interview (very general stuff).  I have return ticket for 29th. I guess I would have to cancel that in a few days if I still haven't heard from them. What a mess!

Note: Don't have any arrest or illegal history. The guy (a Nepali guy) who handed me the 221g slip asked me questions about my travel history (none other than US)  and employment hostory (none). 
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Posted on 05-23-13 11:38 AM     [Snapshot: 488]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Posted on 05-23-13 12:03 PM     [Snapshot: 510]     Reply [Subscribe]
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consktm@us.gov I guess ...Check the later part (after @) from the web.  I hope they have not chanced the consktm yet.....You could email and ask as a reminder if you are in a rush....


 
Posted on 05-23-13 8:07 PM     [Snapshot: 588]     Reply [Subscribe]
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it took him almost a month to get a visa. i don't recall him saying about the additional documents needed.


 
Posted on 05-23-13 9:00 PM     [Snapshot: 612]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 I have already emailed them once at 1 week mark asking if I need to send them anything and what the processing is for. It's been 3 days with no replies. I also called DOS, only to be told that they don't get any visa cases, which only confused me even more. My status in the website hasn't been updated since my interview. Does that been they haven't even started looking into my case?
 
Posted on 05-24-13 4:37 PM     [Snapshot: 731]     Reply [Subscribe]
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It takes time because all the communications are done by mail not emails. So you can imagine the time (sending mail from nepal to us and viceversa).
 
Posted on 05-31-13 3:54 AM     [Snapshot: 917]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 17 days and waiting. no progress at all. They haven't even replied to my email that I sent 10 days ago.
 
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Posted on 06-05-13 11:18 PM     [Snapshot: 1143]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 My university says that they can't do anything unless its 60 days past the interview. They feel that if they contact the visa office at this point, it might further delay my case. Anyways, I have waited for more than 3 weeks already, so hopefully they will call me within a week!
 
Posted on 06-15-13 1:47 AM     [Snapshot: 1408]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Am I the only one waiting for 221g clearance in Nepal? If anyone else is in a similar situation or knows somebody else, then please respond. I have now been waiting for a little over a month, feeling a little lonely here.
 
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Posted on 06-24-13 11:52 AM     [Snapshot: 1700]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Unfortunately, my case is still in administrative processing. It is now 6 weeks of wait and no update. Really frustrated at this point!
 
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Posted on 06-25-13 1:17 AM     [Snapshot: 1924]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Thanks Neerman for the suggestion. I have contacted my advisor, and he is doing everything he can to try to help. based on his (and my own)  research on similar cases, he says that administrative processing cases are out of the hands of the consulate and thus, contacting the embassy is not helpful at all. He has now contacted the senator of my state and is having her contact the DOS to at least find out where the case is stuck!
I understand that it might take longer if it is for a petition-based visa like H1, L1 etc as the cases can be referred to USCIS, but I don't understand any reason why a student visa can take this long if everybody was doing their job as they should. I just fear that my case is lying somewhere unnoticed or completely neglected!

@Raj Chaulagain : which visa is your family waiting for and how long has it been?

 



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