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200times
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Posted on 06-17-13 5:23
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Hey Guys,
What do you think about joining US army? I have seen lots of my Nepalese friends who joined US army and serving for this country.Im also in mid process , and if everything goes well I will also be US army soon, and yeh I already graduated from college.Is it worth to join the military or spend rest of your life maintaining visa status?Please I wanna hear your opinions.
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Posted on 06-17-13 7:48
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Son that's a wrong question you are asking. The right question is, are you ready to sacrifice your whole mothereffing youth, if not life ,for a country that dont give a shit about you and your degree, fighting for a cause so [Disallowed String for - bad word]ed up half of the world has lost their faith in humanity?? If the answer is yes, you must have lost your effing mind!
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Posted on 06-17-13 8:18
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I think its worth joining. You will get citizen in 3 months as soon as you finish the training. Yeah very few Nepalese r different n they can do better in college n get job n h1 n GC n so on. But most of the Nepalese drown in that melting pot. Just to maintain status go college, sleep less, stressed out, work in gas station n restaurants and feel like a piece of shit. After you get selected and serving 4 yrs Active duty you can go college with GI bill. Lots of Americans will treat you like a hero. You n your wife will get a good life insurance as well as health insurance policy. These are the pros but lets major the cons. The cons. are that the pay is just 1700. After serving 4 yrs active duty, you still have to serve inactive duty for 4 more years, which means you should go whenever they need you for service. If you don't comply with the deal they will strip off your citizenship. You can hide but you can't run. Further they said they supporting the Syrian rebels so chances are being get deployed there. There is always a risk. In the battlefield its better to die than get wounded specially losing wombs n legs. Also i heard weak guys get raped by tougher guys.
If I were u I would have join. Its worth joining than working in a gas station or restaurant n just going college for status. 28th amendment is wrong about America not caring about your degree. They do care if you are the best.
P.S. It take 30 yrs for some people to get citizenship but you can do it in 3 months
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Posted on 06-17-13 11:36
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its better you go to nepal than spend your life in us maintaining visa and doing fcked up jobs if you see no way of coming out of it.
joining army just to get citizenship is the worst option unless you truly believe in US army and r ready to sacrifice ur life for it.
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Posted on 06-17-13 11:43
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there's always pros and cons....do wat ur heart tells u to do.....good luck
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Posted on 06-18-13 4:58
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Posted on 06-18-13 10:08
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i dont understand why it is so difficult for people to leave this country. Especially for people who can do much better back home.
USA makes sense for some villager with some education but has no house, a good salary job and no inheretence in Nepal. For him, it is almost impossible in his life time to arrange a house, job, provide good schooling to his family and here he can get all of that by ringing the register or packing boxes.
But for people who do not need to earn house and has some inheretence there is absulutely no reason to rot here. I have GC and make a six figure salary and am thinking of moving to Nepal for good. I save about 20K per year and i am trying to justify if 20K per year is worth sacrificing everything in Nepal and struggling here with khaire ko bullshit all the time.
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Posted on 06-18-13 10:21
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Sap Dude, many a patriotic warriors have fallen in glory after boldly announcing their intent to go back. Simply announcing your intent does not give you any glory. Let us know after you have quit your 6 figure salaried job and reached the motherland. Then I will be the first one to give you respect.
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Posted on 06-18-13 10:23
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200times,
Please do not join army considering it as the easiest way to get citizenship. Life during 4 years of contract will be very very hard. I'm telling this from experience of a friend of mine who is in U.S. army. Try to find answers to these questions and decide what is right for you.
Do you truly believe in U.S. foreign policy? why were the wars in the recent past fought for? Some to name after World War II: Korean War, Vietnam War, Persian Gulf war, Afganistan War and Iraq War. Were these necessary?Joining Army means to be ready to defend the country against foreign threat. Was there a direct threat to U.S. on these wars?
'Gulf of Tonkin' incident to go to Vietnam War was a lie to Americans. Stockpile of WMDs in Iraq was a lie to Americans. I think conspiracy theorists has point regarding 9/11.
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Posted on 06-18-13 12:50
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I don't understand why everyone wants to evaluate foreign policy. He ain't joining for foreign policy. It's personal policy. Don't give shit abt foreign policy like most of the US army, think this as job, if you think it's good from carer point, go for it. If not don't .
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SAP Dude
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Posted on 06-18-13 1:00
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boka... i dont get your point of patriotism....how is it patriotic to go back to Nepal and how its not patriotic to stay here? Patriotism is a total bullshit.....people do what pleases them the most. If people think they would get better personal happiness in Nepal they go back if they think they get better personal happiness here then they stay here. Nothing to do with patriotism. Patriotism is a thing of the 60s and 70s.
Most are just afraid to go back because they fear that they might not like it back there and they would not have option to come back here again. Many just rot themselves here year after year on that fear alone.
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Posted on 06-18-13 1:09
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Sap dude,
I can write a book why people choose to stay in the USA. You seem to think "villager" is the only cause. Six figure salary does not give you an extra brain. Put your money where your mouth is. I save more than you with a 5 figure salary. Does that make me smarter than you, I don't think so. Money isn't everything.
Regardless, it is people's choice. I don't think it is an issue to serve in the US army. We have a history of "Bir Gurkha" serving in the British, don't we? It's about time we have few in the US.
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Posted on 06-18-13 1:17
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sap dude whether it's patriotism or inherent need to go back to your roots where you are comfortable, as long as you haven't quit your job and reached Nepal, you don't have any authority to take the higher ground or to preach.
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Posted on 06-18-13 2:41
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Vhootee,
I agree its a CHOICE and going back is a choice for people who are struggling to maintain status and working 60 hrs a week for a third world jerk to make a living under shitty condition. My point was i would rather go back and be a first class citizen in a third world than be a third class citizen in the first world. There is no wrong or right in either choice. You just have to pick what would give you the most personal happiness.
To the point of being "bir gurkhas", it was a term given by the Masters to their loyal servants 100s of years ago. In the modern world "bir gurkha" are called merceneries. Merceneries who fight for money or papers.
People just need to understand how important the GC is. If its more important than fighting for the cause that means really nothing to you then go for it. Again no right or wrong answer on it. Just a matter of personal reasoning.
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Posted on 06-18-13 3:06
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Sap dude
Not everybody is blessed like you to be a "first" class citizen back in Nepal. We also have hierarchy in Nepal. What if I was a "second" or even "third" class citizen from Nepal?
Just like you said, I'd rather be a third class citizen in the US than a "third class" citizen in Nepal.
Struggle? It's a universal thing. People struggle in Nepal too, unless you are from a rich family. Here is something that might shock you, the struggle in the US pays more than in Nepal for most people. Maybe not you.
Again, I was only writing to say that we should not decide what other people choose. This thread was started by someone asking for suggestions, not to be preached upon. Give the pros and cons based on actual facts, not emotional, and leave him to decide.
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These are just my opinions. It might be the best time to join the army. After the Iraq and Afgan war, America is broke and I don't think they can afford another war for a long time. Even better, if the democract win the next election (Hillary might). Unless something like 911, I don't forsee any war soon. So take it as a job and get the GC. However, army (regardless of the country) is a tough life and it is not for weak people. Not just physical, tough emotionally and physcologically.
Good luck. We will be proud of you.
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Posted on 06-18-13 4:34
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Vhootee,
I was referring to people who are well off back home and are still rotting here becoming a slave to another third world jerk. If you do not have anything in Nepal ( a third class citizen, unfortunately) then USA is a heaven for you and even joining US army is not too bad of an option for you. If you can be a first class citizen back home, then go back and save yours and your family's happiness. There is no point of living here if you are barely breaking even with a day labor job. You might as well just break even in Nepal making less money but also spending lesser.
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Posted on 06-18-13 6:57
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How you going to live as first class citizen in a third world country? Don't make sense at all. If the country itself is a third world country, how could you brag abt being first class citizen when the water you drank is immpure, not even sufficient water, loadshedding all the time, no big higways to drive your BMW if you can afford also, no standard restaurants, malls etc so what do you guys mean to say. Even the low class family here in USA is considered first class citizen in Nepal. Ya most of the people go to army coz they don't have no choice, can't finish school nor wana work in walmarts and get frustrated. Most of the guys outside Kathmandu valley are the ones who join US army because they don't have properties in Kathmandu and can't go back in live in misery which is village. Further US army doesn't have quality. Even 5 ft guys are in the army, not to mention skinny ones and fat ones too. Seems like US want to increase their foot soldiers and want to exceed China's number. Do you know how hard it is to get into British army? A way tougher.
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Posted on 06-18-13 7:48
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Whiteboy:
"Most of the guys outside Kathmandu valley are the ones who join US army because they don't have properties in Kathmandu and can't go back in live in misery which is village. " LMAO
Actually I'm from kathmandu.I have enough property( I mean my dad has) which was inherited from my grandfather and I have a house in kathmandu.
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Posted on 06-18-13 11:16
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Be an officer in the US Air Force!!
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Posted on 06-18-13 11:16
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or the Navy, an Officer though.
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