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harrybutt
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Posted on 12-19-13 10:50
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We need to do something to stop this Monsanto nonsense. They have already taken over India. I watched a documentary where framers are committing suicide because they cannot survive anymore with competition to company such as Monsanto. I am all for new inovation and changing the job perspective but really with all these claiming that GMO is healthy BS etc. They are probably the lowest of the low when it comes to moral and ethics..they don't give even a slightest flying f***.
This is a good anti monsanto facebook fan page I have found a while ago.
https://www.facebook.com/Anti.Monsanto
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Posted on 12-19-13 11:08
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Meanwhile in Bhutan,
Bhutan Announces Plans to Become the World's First 100% Organic Nation
Bhutan photo from Shutterstock
Bhutan has announced plans to become the first country in the world to grow all of its crops using only organic agricultural practices. The Himalayan nation, which borders India and China, plans for its food production to become 100 percent organic by 2020. Instead of using artificial chemicals, Bhutanese farmers will rely entirely on animal and farm waste for fertilizers.
Bhutan, a small nation of only 700,000, is already largely organic, as most of its farmers don’t use artificial pesticides and herbicides due to their high costs. The country is planning to export its foods to growing market for organic goods in neighboring countries, like India and China.
The country’s minister of agriculture and forests, Pema Gyamtsho, announced Bhutan’s decision to completely shift its agriculture towards organic food production at the Delhi Sustainable Development Summit 2013 earlier this month. The minister pointed out the harmful effects of chemical fertilizers, as they tend to produce fruits and vegetables with lower nutritional value and leach away into the ground water.
While in the west organic food is thought to reduce the size of crops, as it is less resilient to pests, the Bhutanese are developing new techniques to grow more and keep the soil from losing quality.
“We are experimenting with different methods of growing crops like SRI but we are also going to increase the amount of irrigated land and use traditional varieties of crops which do not require inputs and have pest resistance,” says Gyamtsho.
However, harsher weather in the past few years has made it difficult for farmers throughout the county to grow enough to sustain their families. As people are leaving the rural areas for the cities in search of better opportunities, many farms are left with labor shortages.
“Going organic will take time,” said agriculture minister Gyamtsho. “We have set no deadline. We cannot do it tomorrow. Instead we will achieve it region by region and crop by crop.”
Via The Guardian
Read more: Bhutan Announces Plans to Become the World's First 100% Organic Nation | Inhabitat - Sustainable Design Innovation, Eco Architecture, Green Building
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bittertruth
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Posted on 12-19-13 11:10
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Did any one of you know that they started this venture back in 2010 and now Bhutan grows nothing but Organic?
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Posted on 12-20-13 7:14
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I think most people's fear of GMOs stem from Monsanto's practices and rightly so. Monsanto, like most for-profit multi-national companies, has gone through lengths around the world to control agricultural crops, particularly in developing nations and destroying livelihood of farmers. So, for this reason, Monsanto should be vociferously opposed in Nepal and elsewhere. However, GMOs have been viewed through a very narrow lens lately. Farmers have been breeding plants for better yield, resistance of disease, among others, for hundreds, if not thousands of years (mind you, that is also GMO). If you look at the food you're eating at the table, chances are most of it is GMO. More importantly, when you equate all GMOs to be bad, you're also doing disservice to thousands of researchers in universities and organizations that are truly devoting their careers to improve food crops around the world with advent of more precise technologies (like RNAi).
And finally, if you don't form your opinions based on splashy journalism (just like the climate change deniers), but rather with scientific data (that is peer-reviewed), there is scant evidence of it in being harmful, when put through rigorous meta-analyses. This safety has been verified by both US and EU regulatory bodies. Surely, what is being done to GMO, like the overuse of pesticides and herbicides afterwards, is a completely different story. Stay informed!
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Posted on 12-20-13 8:42
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Came here to say the same, Snurp, you put it even better. It is so easy to jump on the bandwagon and be a hater, but most who criticize it don't even know why it is good or bad.
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nakkali keti
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Posted on 12-20-13 9:46
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FYI
Monsanto weedkiller and GM maize implicated in "shocking" new cancer study
(URL: http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/topics/technology-and-supply-chain/monsanto-weedkiller-and-gm-maize-in-shocking-cancer-study/232603.article)
The World According to Monsanto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6_DbVdVo-k
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snurp
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Posted on 12-20-13 10:09
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Nakkali_Keti,
That is not to say there aren't other studies that might support such claim on the dangers of GMOs.I understand it is increasingly difficult to get the right information on the internet, but most peer-reviewed scientific data currently do not support the hypothesis that GMOs are dangerous to consume.
This is not in support or against the GMOs, but I find it being unfairly used as a proxy to attack the research technologies. GMOs are being used by big corporations like Monsanto to bump up sales, but it is also being used by philanthropists, researchers, and scientists to better yield, increase nutritional values of crops, and provide food security, particularly in developing nation like ours.
In the end, one is free to come to their own conclusions, but I for one, like to look at the evidence.
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iLLumination
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Posted on 12-20-13 10:27
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nakkali keti
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Posted on 12-20-13 11:21
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I am not arguing against GMOs. I also understand that GMOs are major agricultural advancements to keep world feeding. The article you posted talks about controversy of retracting the paper from the journal. It does not present any scientific facts and data that show GM maize does not cause any serious disease. As you said, it is increasingly difficult to get the right information, GMOs may or may not cause any harm but I tend to incline towards independent studies than self proclamations. Agro giants get clearance on their products by lobbying, bribing however they can and we are the one being used in their real experiment while they are making boatloads of money. We are lucky if the outcome is good but what if it is catastrophic? It is very complex issue and I am just a consumer with concerns.
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Posted on 12-20-13 12:04
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Obama appointed Monsanto chief lobbyist as senior advisor to the FDA
Did you know? Obama appointed Monsanto chief lobbyist as senior advisor to the commissioner of the FDA. This is the same man that was in charge of FDA policy when GMO's were allowed into the US food supply without undergoing a single test to determine their safety.
OBAMA APPOINTS MONSANTO’S VICE PRESIDENT AS SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE COMMISSIONER AT THE FDA | The Story of Liberty
There is clearly a conflict of interest for a FDA advisor who should be trying to keep the food safe for the general public, to be part of the company that experiments on genetically modifying crop to yield better profits.
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bittertruth
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Posted on 12-20-13 12:07
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Farmers have been breeding plants for better yield, resistance of disease, among others, for hundreds, if not thousands of years (mind you, that is also GMO).
I almost spilled my drink.. I was laughing out so hard. Thousands of years of GMO?..lol... I can't debate here anymore..
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Posted on 12-20-13 12:20
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Anyway, someone needs to take a recourse to the history of civilization,trading era and industrialization and how we've come through all that and how GMO, the word was coined and how it was worshiped during it's beginning day that it's gonna eradicate the hunger of the world. Decades later of that announcement, what researches upon researches are showing is nothing but the proliferation of degenerative diseases. There's a saying 'Let food be your medicine and medicine be your food'. Now find the correlation what it is there betn your health and food?
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snurp
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Posted on 12-20-13 12:36
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Nakkali_Keti,
FYI - I think he explains slightly better than me :) This is in reference to the retracted paper.
“what scientific tests have you conducted to conclude that GMO corn does not cause cancer in humans? Can you say that unequivocally?” Ah, a teaching moment. Of course not. We can’t prove a negative like this. No one can prove that milk doesn’t cause cancer in humans. Or chocolate. Or water. Science doesn’t work this way. Seralini made a positive assertion that GMO corn causes cancer, and his data are inadequate to prove this assertion. This is simply a failed experiment. We can’t prove that GMO corn (or any food) does not cause cancer. However, we have observational data that shows no difference in cancer rates among millions of people consuming GMO corn versus non-GMO corn. If you want to make a scientific claim that “X causes Y”, then the onus is on you to provide evidence in support of your claim. Otherwise we could spend infinite effort trying to prove negatives, with little to show for it." I rest my case. Bittertruth, I know, no one is an expert in this forum like you from science to spiritualism, from cosmos to astrology, and no one knows alternative medicine like you that can cure incurable diseases like cancers . I am sorry to have made incorrect assertions to be called out by your highness! I live, I learn!
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Posted on 12-20-13 1:55
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Lol, snurp.. you are quick on making assumptions(coz replied to my post so quick, lol) —a typical mindset. I never made any claims, like curing cancers with alternative options and I never forced the idea, I just shared that if nothing worked, there's no harm in trying anything out there as a last resort. I was not disregarding conventional medical cure in anyway. I've mentioned that. And, seriously no clue what do you mean by expert on science to spirituality, cosmos to astrology means. I never claimed I was the originator of those thoughts, I merely reflected those knowledge from influential folks out there like Michio Kaku, A. Einstein . At least they're for me. Their thought process is not imposing rather let you explore on your own.
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Posted on 12-20-13 2:53
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Sad thing is GMO has been synonym to Monsanto, and who claim to be anti GMO are just anti-Monsanto. GMO is great new technology and Monsanto is a company. Just because these new 4K TVs cost 3-4 grands does not mean 4K TV is bad or even cell phone have shown some traceable radiation to cause cancer and we are not stopping using it. Remember when DDT was solution to everything (..) and was banned later. and remember when Penicillin became cure of everything (..) and we are still using today. No one knows the future.
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Posted on 12-20-13 7:41
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I thought GMO was genetically bio-engineered byproducts, didn't know GMO name itself was a technology. And I think Monsato is the world's most evil corporation messing with nature's way of doing things. Nature gives us certain fruits in certain season to cope with deficiences. Just imagining that those fruits are available throughout the year sounds good at first, but I've literally tasted those unseasonal GMO fruits and it wasn't anyway near like what nature provides us if it were in it's season. In another words, doesn't taste good as lucious as it looks. I'm just talking about taste here, my tastebuds didn't like it, don't know what my intestines and internal organs have to say about it. They're not there yet to make things perfect.
Biotechnology is the wonderful invention to mankind, it has helped to cure diseases but it's still RAW and young. Just imagine this scenario in a movie, a scientist develops gene manipulating techniques and he sees various uses to cure human diseases simply modifying certain genes or borrowing from. Then, this villain knows of his idea and asks a scientist to achieve certain things and a scientist with his bioengineering techniques could do those things. Now this villain gets hold of his invention, shut him off with money or whatever, and gets this invention to make nothing but money and power. Talks sweet things, people buy into it and overnight he becomes powerful entity. After certain time, public who got into his scheme, turns into zombies and start killing people. Zombie apocalypse begins.
Now, That biotech science has it's use in it's field, and here I'm one of dumb motherfckers raging against that villain, that we in the present world know it as 'monsato', what wrong you think we're doing here? They're still working to cope with antibiotic resistant superbugs. Hats off to biotechnology. But to food?? Monsato must be impeached for that. They're turning everyone to living dead, figuratively zombies. Why a japanese who lived a whole life healthy life, dies diabetic in US following typical monsato GMO diet,? Excerpted from some book, but you should by now know the reason, instead of assuming all GMO protestors as dumbeddown crowds. Organic food is the food that our grandparents in villages eat, but now it's become so precious to few living in metro jungle, we've named it organic meaning we want our food in what nature would give us in it's form. The world 'Natural' is dubious and patented and can't be taken as real natural when you see it on labels, it's still GMO, those fckers have owned it. Thankfully, word 'organic' so far didn't get snatched to their scheme.
I blame monsato for demonizing the word 'GMO' and making it almost synonymous to it. I still urge folks AVOID GMO if you could in the context of present day. It would have been wondrous if GMO produce would have no adverse effect, but this biotech is not their yet and still on trial. All we're consuming are things with less severe adverse effects to our health. The day, we see medicines with no side effects at all, GMO produce with no deadly disease causing catalyst, I would assume humanity would achieve perfection. Just like in movie Elysium, probably, one day we'd have 'med bed' to cure any diseases in shortest time.
I'm sure some folks here reading this must be looking at me like I know all. Well, over the years wandering with health conscious folks, I've learned a lot and it's just a mere reflection of what I've learned, I'm not trying to act mr-know-it-all.
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Posted on 12-20-13 11:07
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Posted on 12-20-13 11:14
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Power of facebook and social medias...
Hope they initiate Organic Revolution in Nepal as well..
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Posted on 12-21-13 8:17
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