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 Why Nepali women practice ancient tradition of Teej

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Posted on 08-29-14 8:20 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I was talking to an American colleague yesterday about Teej and she found it hard to believe that Nepali women treat their husbands almost as if they are gods. What she said made sense. As long as women don't treat men as equals, men will not treat women as equals. All over the world there are women's right movements to promote equality. I came to the US 5 years ago and one thing I like about it is how both husband and wife work together sharing all their responsibilities. Teej practice shows almost godlike devotion from wife for husband. I don't know why Nepali women like to be so suppressed on their own free will. If you show them you want to be their slaves and then you complain they treat you like slaves. You can show how much you love your husbands in many different ways.
 
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I agree. I don't know why Nepalese treat dogs like Gods during Kukur Tihaar. Don't know why we worship snakes during Naag panchami. If we treat them like Gods they will control us and we will live in life of misery. Liberate yourself people!!

Hope you see the parallel there. Just because you follow the age-old ritual doesn't make us feel like Gods and trust me this doesn't give us any authority or motivation to suppress women.
 
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लाटो देशको गाडो तन्नेरी भए पण्डित हरु : ब्रम्ह बाक्य नै शास्त्र हो भन्ने हरुले महिलालाई शिवले  Parbati लाइ एकदिन तिम्रो रमाइलोको लागि हो भनि फुर्सद दिएका थिए रे | अनि कालान्तरमा हाम्रा आर्य समाजका सर्बश्रेस्ठ प्राणी  पण्डितहरुले त्यो मुसलमानले केटीहरुको पनि सरकमसाइज गरिदिए जस्तै जोडिदिए श्रीमान्को नाममा उपासना : यी आर्य समाजका सर्बश्रेस्ठ प्राणीले श्रीमतीलाई खुट्टाको पानि ख्वाए , मेरो गाउका आर्य समाजका सर्बश्रेस्ठ प्राणी  पण्डितहरुले गरेको देखेको हु | (Who else cast had done it)?

मुसलेले थाहा पाए सुँगुरमा टेप वर्म हुन्छ अनि सुँगुर नखाओ मरिन्छ भन्नु सट्टा धर्मको बिपरित भने पछि कसैले चुई पनि नगरी माने , तेस्तै हाम्रा आर्य समाजका सर्बश्रेस्ठ प्राणी पण्डितले थपेका हुन् श्रीमान्को सुस्वास्थ आदि इत्यादि | सुरुमा महिलालाइ रमाइलो गरुन भनि दीइएको पर्व हो | आर्य समाजका सर्बश्रेस्ठ प्राणी  ( संस्कृतका विद्वान भनाउदा हरु ) ले जोडी दिए धर्म : अनि दिएको एक दिन लाइ पनि हत्याए |
पहिलो दिन धेरै खान पान गरेको हुनाले दोश्रो दिन कम खाएर स्वास्थ लाभ गर्न लाइ निलाहर बसेका हुन् भने जति EXTREME भयो तेतिनै धमात्मा र स्वर्ग पुगिने कुरा सबै धर्मका धर्मालाबिले गर्छन अनि हाम्रा चेलीले पनि पानि समेत नपिएर बसेका हुन् भने कसैले खोकी दियो : पानि पीए के के हुन्छ भनि :

मानो तो मै गङ्गा हु नमानो तो मै बहता पानि : सम्झाई र सोचाइ आफ्नो आफ्नो :

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Comparing with kukkur tihar is like comparing apples and oranges. What I got from my conversation is that as long as women don't treat men as equals, men will not treat women as equals. Why would men disagree when women are required by tradition to treat them as gods?

I am sure Nepali men are afraid that their wives will be like them who don't feel anything wrong in checking out other women and flirting with them at every chance they get. In general I find it insecure to question and be suspicious of every little action when their women do something.
 
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मलाई पनि केहि लेख्न मन लाग्यो | कुरो र कुलो जता लैजान पनि सकिन्छ रे, तेसैले देखेको कुरो मात्रै लेख्दैछु तीजको बारेमा |

हिजो एक जना मिल्ने दाइको मा गएको थिएँ | भाउजु तीजको ब्रत सकी दाइको पुजा गर्दै हुनुहुन्थ्यो | खुट्टाको पानी खाने बेला आयो, दाइले कति कर गर्नु भयो पर्दैन भनेर भाउजु मान्ने नै होइन, यो खुट्टाको पानी नखाए म केहि पनि खादिन भन्नुभयो ? दाई भाउजुको लप म्यारिज , एकदम माया गर्ने एक –अर्कालाई | दुबैले काम गर्ने अफिसमा | एउटाले खाना बनाए अर्कोले माझ्ने | बुझ्नुष न अब के भन्न खोजेको | आखिरमा दाइले बाध्य भएर खुट्टा साबुन पानीले धोएर आउनुभो अनि भाउजुले तिन पटक पानी खानुभयो, दाइको खुट्टाबाट | म हेरेको हेरेकै भएँ | बार्दलीमा चुरोट तान्ने बेलामा मैले दाइलाई सोधें यो बारेमा | उहाँको उत्तर जस्ताको तस्तै , “हेर् गेड़े तैले यो कुरा बुझ्दैनस, माया गर्ने नेपाली केटि पाइश भने चाही बुझ्लास , अनि मैले सोध्छु तलाई तेतिखेर | उनीहरुले बर्षमा एकपटक खुट्टाको पानी खालान तर हामीले कम्तिमा महिनाको एक पटक उनीहरुको खुट्टै खान्छ्म नि !!!!!” | म त लाजले धन्नई मरेको बाई |

अब जाओश न त यहाहरुको प्रतिक्रिया यो बारेमा |



 
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गेड़े सोल्टी , तपाईको कमेन्टको लागि मैले अर्को थ्रेडमा अल्लि धार्मिक प्रकृतिको कमेन्ट गरेको छु , यहाँ चै अल्लि मार्मिक कमेन्ट हानु है |

हाम्री निलाषा सिस्टर ( अब आफु त -यो संसारमा दुइ जनालाई बाहेक सबैलाई सिस्टर भन्ने मान्छे परियो ;) ) ले भनेको - पुरुषले महिलालाई सम्मान हुने कुरो गर्दैनन् भन्ने कुरो चै अल्लि अतिरन्जित हो जस्तो लाग्यो | मैले कतिपय पुरुस देखेको छु जसले -घर भित्र मज्जाले बुढीलाई सघाउचन| भाडा माझेर, पकाएर आदि गरेर | तर बाहिर अरुको अगाडी देखौन चाहदैनन् |....कारण के हो भन्ने कुरो सबैलाई थाहा छ |

अनि केहि मित्रहरुले संस्कृतिको बिरोधमा कनि-कनि जोड लगाएको देखेर अलिकति असजिलो महसुस भयो | मान्छेहरुलाई आ-आफ्नो तरिकाले चाड पर्ब मनाएको लाइ समानताको बाधक भयो भन्दा अल्लि बढी हुन्छ कि | नारीको पनि शिक्ष्यकोको स्तर बढ्दै छ , येदि येस्तै कुराले समानता मा बाधा पुराएको रैछ भने बिस्तारै हट्दै जान्छ |
 
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I think i want to give my two cents on this topic. Nilasha compared teej as an ancient tradition and suppression towards women. She also brought up the topic of women equality saying teej practice shows godlike devotion to the male but i beg to differ.
I think teej is more of celebrating your culture and heritage and also showing your love to your spouse. What she said might be true 15-20 years ago but not now.

Also, Mr. Magorkhe brought up issue of Bahun,chhetri etc. Seriously Dude, I thought we all are Nepalese regardless of caste, religion or social status. why do you say some bahun baje did this or that?

Well i want to write more but have lot of stuffs to wrap up before this long weekend. So, i bid adieu to you all and enjoy your long weekend. :)
 
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हैन यो काममा पनि अल्छी लागो सुक्रबार भर होकी अनि फेरी मित्र हरुको कमेन्ट पढेर मलाई पनि केहि लेखौ लेखौ लाग्यो | गोर्खे साथीले खै के बुझ्नु भो कुन्नि यसरि सम्पूर्ण दोष ब्राह्मण हरुलाई थोपर्न नहुने | सायद धार्मिक ज्ञानको कमि होकी (नो वोफेंस है मित्र)? निलाषा दिदि (बहिनि पनि हुन सक्ला) लाई साएद थाहा भएन कि के हो, तालि एउटा हातले मात्र बज्दैन भन्ने कुरा | केटो मुला एक्लै ले जत्ति सुकै चाहोस अर्की केटिले साथ दियिन भने केहि लछारपाटो लाग्दैन | तसर्थ परस्त्री गमन को जुन दोसारोपण पुरुष माथि गर्नु भाको छ, तेस्मा नारि बर्गको पनि तेत्तिनै हात छ भन्दा फरक नपर्ला (तेसैले त नारि पुरुष समान छन्) | धर्म ग्रन्थ मै जाने हो भने पनि संसारलाई नै थाहा छ सतीदेवी मरेर महादेव पागल हुदा स्त्रीहरु यौन भोक मेटाउन पछी लागेका (हैन र? यहा महादेव को त खै केहि गल्ति देख्दिन) |

रह्यो बराबरी र अमेरिकाँको कल्चर को कुरा | म पनि अमेरिका बसेको करिब १० वर्ष हुन लाग्यो | यो १० वर्षमा एउटा कुरा चाहि अमेरिकन हरुको के थाहा पाए भने मेजोरिटी अमेरिकानहरु को लागि अमेरिका नै संसार हो | भानिन्छ नि कुवाको भ्यागुत्ता |

तेस्रो कुरा चाहि १०० मा १० प्रतिसत होलान महिला सोषण गर्ने यो कुरामा तर यो कुरा सबैलाई विश्वास लाग्ला लौ अब देखि तीज नमनाउने भन्दा मनाउनु पर्छ भनेर नारा लगाउने महिला नै हुनेछन |

गोर्खे साथी केहि ब्रामणले गल्ति गरे भन्दैमा सम्पूर्ण समाजमाथि खंनिनु जायज नहोला कि? खोज्ने नै हो भने, अरु जात जाति पनि चोखा त पक्कै छैनन् |

र अन्तिममा महादेव ले सतीदेवीलाई एकदमै माया गर्थे भन्ने कुरा सर्बबिधित नै छ | अनि मलाई आडम्बरी भन्नु भन्दा पहिला नै भनि हालौ म मेरो बुडी लाई खुट्टाको पानि खाना दिन्न र सकेको काम घरमा पनि गर्छु |

अमेरिकन संस्कार लाई हाम्रोसंग तुलना नगरेकै राम्रो कि ? पुरुष मात्र हैन अमेरिका आएर काचुली फेर्ने महिला मित्र हरु मैले धेरैनै देखेको छु | हामि महिला पुरुष सबै कुरामा बराबरी छौ निलु सिस्टर |

अस्तु
 
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Nepali men expect the same kind of relationship that they see from their moms. In moms generation husbands are supposed to be treated like gods and women had to be servants or slaves to the whims of their husbands. Most of old culture and traditions are biased towards men and noone in current government or religious leadership position wants to let go of the old traditions which keep the women down. There is slow realization among modern nepali women thesedays that celebrations like teej are becoming outdated.
 
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Well missdurga, if you are ditching teej then you should ditch Dar as well. Khaane kurama chaahi agaadi badhne ani aru kurama chaahi haami dabiyou bhanne ta ali thik chhaina ni haina? I have seen women eating too much on dar and suffering from diarrhea next day. Seen a lot of women hiding behind a curtain or in bathroom and eating and pretending as if they haven't eaten anything or drunk a single drop of water on teej (How could they eat inside bathroom...yuck!). Most of educated men don't push their wives to fast on teej and drink so called khuttaako paani, its women themselves who want showoffs, basically to take pictures with different poses and put on facebook or so...those are specially so called modern era women who keep talking about equality and all while they clearly know how their husbands are suffering from them...lol...glad that my wife is not one of those women and I am not one of those men you are talking about!

And yes, nepali guys learn from their moms and so should you girls....not from american b*****s! And by the way you guys also want to see quality of your dad on your male partner, don't you? Whats wrong with that? I don't think any! So why complain?
 
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Going superb comments here which I am enjoying , tried to post comment I Nepali here and another thread I generated but keep on getting weird errors, don't know why so posting this from my cell phone, keep on going fellows. By the way want to hear from Nilasha too ;-)
 
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के हो गेडे बिचमा आएर अरुलाई उक्साउने अनि भाग्ने तोइत ....लोल
 
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मैले धर्मका ठेकेदारको कुरा गरेको हु : अहिलेका ब्राम्हण को कुरा मैले कहा गरे ? 
लौ नया शब्दावली निकाल्नु होस् ब्राम्हण को सट्टामा प्रयोग हुने : अफ्रिकन अमेरिकन न्वारन गरे जस्तै ?  So from now let be politically correct on using Brahmin word.
खोजि गर्नुहोस त हाम्रा ति विद्वान पण्डितले कति गलत काम गरेका थिए ? 
 
 एकोहोरिएर हेर्नु भए जस्तोलाग्यो |  If

काम छैन बुहाही पाडाको ........................
सट्टा
काम छैन लाठे हो साझा छिर ................
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"भतुवा बाहुन" भन्ने सब्द चयन अलि मन परेन नि त मित्र | बाहुन भन्ने सब्द अगाडी तेस्तो "भतुवा" सब्दको प्रयोग गर्दा अलि ओफ्फेन्सिब देखिन गयो | २-४ जना को गल्ती हुदैमा बाहुन सब्दको अगाडी भतुवा जस्तो सब्द हामि जस्तो गल्ति नगर्ने लाई अलि पचौन गारो पर्दो रहेछ के साथि | होप यु अन्दर्स्तंद |
 
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गरे | मज्जाले गरे | गल्ति धेरैले गरे | गल्ति गर्नेमा ब्राम्हण मात्र होलान र साथी ? इतिहास साछी छ पाखण्डी गल्ति नगर्ने हरु संसार को सायद नै कुनै कुनामा होलान ..."गल्ति गर्ने पाखण्डी हरु - धर्मका सम्रक्छ्यक भनौदाहरु" लेखेको भए अलि उचित देखिन्थ्यो कि भन्न मात्र खोजेको हो ..जुन शास्त्र पल्टाएर हेर्नुस ब्राम्हण छेत्त्री बैस्य सुद्र सबैको हात छ...धेरै थोरै भन्ने कुरा मात्र हो
 
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It is better to scrap marriage system which sustains all the non-sense assumptions, beliefs, traditions and so on. In evolutionary perspective, marriage is against man's nature. Men have nothing to gain in marriage so they are bribed so many things to make them ready to marry. They are bribed for continuity of their last name (which of course just enhance little ego which in turn enslaves man), man are said to be boss (head) of the family (home), and so on.


 
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नलेखौ भन्दा पनि अन्तिममा एउटा कुरा लेख्न मन लागि हाल्यो | बराबरीको कुरा गर्दै हिड्ने आधुनिक भन्दै हिड्ने महिलाबृन्द हरुको लागि हो (सबैलाई लक्छित हैननी), हाम्रो गेडे साथीको दाईले भने जस्तै, तपाई महिला हरु आफ्नो पुरुषमित्रको आलिंगनमा बाधिनुहुँदा गोडामात्र हैन भन्न लाज लाग्ने कुरा पनि खान बाकिराख्नु हुन्न, कसैले बिरोध गरेका छैनन् त | फेरी तपाईहरु किन आफ्नो धर्म कल्चर बचाई राख्ने साथी हरुको बिरोधमा लाग्नुभा? मेरो बिचारमा जसले गर्छ गर्न दिनु पर्छ | नगर्नेलाई कर छैन | यौनाङ्गको पानि खान दुइचोटी नसोच्नेहरुले खुट्टाको पानि खाको बिरोध नगरियोस |

मेरो दुइ सब्द !

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काम छैन बुहारी बाख्रा को चाक कन्येउन जाउ भन्या जस्तो

Why Nepali women practice ancient tradition of Teej re?

Coz they have rights to practice it. simple as that.



 



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