There's been quite a few ideas about God that's been floating around human brain. I just wanted to add some thoughts...

The god that seems so vague and unattainable is right in front of our face, but we fail to acknowledge it. It has all characteristics that is attributed to god.

"God knows no boundaries. God is without measure. This attribute by definition impacts all of the others. Since God is infinite, everything else about God must also be infinite."

"God's other attributes of being all-knowing and all-powerful. It makes God absolutely free to do what God knows to be best. God is in control of everything that happens. Man still has a free will, and is responsible for his choices in life."

"God possesses perfect knowledge and therefore has no need to learn. God has never learned and cannot learn. Omniscience means all-knowing. God knows everything, and God's knowledge is infinite. It is impossible to hide anything from God."

"Since God is infinite and since God possesses power, God possesses infinite power. God does allow God's creatures to have some power, but this in no way diminishes God's own."

"God has no beginning or end. God just exists. Nothing else in all the universe is self-caused. Only God.  God always has been and will forever be, because God dwells in eternity. Time is God's creation. "

The above quotes generally symbilized the essence of the mysterious and obscured God which has always been and always will be right in front of our eyes but we fail to acknowledge it.

The entity that meets all the characteristics of God that we have all been frantically searching everywhere is the UNIVERSE.

Universe is without boundary. It is infinite. It is perfect as it creates everything within itself including us. It possesses infinite power. It has no beginning and end. It has always been and will be forever.

Human beings are looking everywhere for a god and fighting wars for their beliefs harming the very earth and atmosphere which are part of the real god, the Universe.

In God We Trust

The Universe has not existed forever. There is a beginning of TIME as we know. So did god come into existence at the same time ? Or are they the same peoples ?
TIME WAITS FOR NO MAN !!

@ neo.... I would NOT say that the Universe has no beginning or end BUT I would say that the creation has no beginning and no end.

नान्त: प्रग्य्म न बहिष्प्रग्यम नोभयत:प्रग्यम न प्रज्ञानघनम न प्रज्ञम नाप्रज्ञम I
अद्रुष्टमव्यवहार्यमग्राह्र्यामलक्छणमचिन्यमव्यपदेश्यमेकात्मप्रत्यय सारम
प्रपंचोपशमं शान्तम शिवंद्वैतम चतुर्थ मन्यन्ते स आत्मा स विज्ञेय: II

Turiya is not that which is conscious of the internal (subjective) world, nor that which is conscious of the external (objective) world, nor that which is conscious of both, nor that which is a mass of all sentient, nor that which is simple consciousness, nor that which is insentient. ( It is ) unseen (by any sense organ), not related to anything, incomprehensible (by the mind), uninferable, unthinkable, constituting the Self alone, negation of all phenomenon, the Peaceful, all Bliss and the Non-dual. This is what is known as the fourth (Turiya). This is the Atman and it has to be realized.

~ ManDukya Upanishad - 7th Sruti

Could you kindly stop referencing to the verses of books written by man just to prove your logic?

Universe has no end and no beginning that is the truth for now whereas everything that is created has an end. Thus, creation has it's end. You are created, you will be uncreated one day. Physics and spirituality correlate, not religion and physics. I would kindly ask not to inject your bull in every thread where folks are entertaining spirituality and physics. My tantrum is only towards your bull and unwillingness to unlearn and relearn.

Neo,

Not trying to judge, but that's the silliest movie ever, no art nothing just some filthy comedy and take on life in general. You must be being sarcastic I believe.

Awakening is not midlife crisis. I've been lately realizing ppl including Neo dai and me and others, slowly awakening to reality around us.

Why we want to be happy and why we're not happy still after we are in possession of everything in the world could give you that once we thought were the reasons that could bring us contentment ? Some super rich folks like Jim Carrey have pondered upon this and they've told us on and on 'Hey look, I've everything , money, sex, property, luxury.. yet I'm missing something. Don't dream of becoming rich to be happy, coz you're not gonna get that, look at me. Happiness is in you and there is a way to unlock it'.





If I were to recommend a movie, I would rather go with 'The Man from Earth'. This is not your everyday movie, it takes special kind of brain and attitude to complete this movie. After all it's for special awakened audience not for dumbeddown  brainwashed religious bunch. I was the only one who stayed and watched this movie without a blink whereas my brother, father, aunt and rest fell asleep snoring. To discourage you, this movie starts and ends in just one room. Dare you watch it See how religion and concepts of life slithers away right by you. Trailer down below:

Bittertruth

Ha ha ... yes, that movie does not speak to everyone in the same way. It grosses out fans and detractors alike. As with all great satire, it is not so much the comedy that makes it interesting, but the satirist's astute interpretation of reality. I am glad you found something that speaks to you in your present station in life. That is what it is important. Sounds like an interesting movie. Good luck with your awakening.

Neo," noone can say for a fact that the Universe has not existed forever."
No one can say otherwise either.

Neo,"Scientists need to explain things rationally so they believe that the Universe has a beginning and after doing extensive research that possibly cannot be taken as fact."
So if you cannot take the logic and reasoning presented by scientists then what do we have ? lol That is like that debate by Republican congressmen arguing that its their(scientist) job to write theories and present papers... but that does not mean I believe them. You cannot be selective.

Neo,"You can choose to believe they are absolutly correct about things like the big bang that happened billions of years ago or you can keep an open mind about it and believe that perhaps the universe is infinite :)"
Sure.. I will let you believe that it is infinite. http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_shape.html

Bathroomcoffee

I have no issues in believing scientists when they present the proofs to support their theories.

Do you really believe a scientist can accurately explain what happened 13 Billion years ago?

If you believe it then let's agree to disagree :)

i have seen GOD....pronounce it back....now all of you have seen him/her.... :)

Neo

Your theory on Universe being the almighty hinges on an assumption that there is God. That to me is a big leap of faith. Why is it necessary to have a God in the first place?

I agree with your point that nobody can tell for certain whether Universe had a beginning or not. Science can hypothesize an admissible theory but nothing can be said with 100% certainty unless that experiment can be replicated in the present context. Much of those theory hinged on God particle and the Hadron Collider project has proven the existence of such and object. Science cannot be trusted 100% but it is pretty close to being true.

But say we agree with your point. After all Science has gotten things wrong from naming Pluto a planet to the applicability of General theory of relativity. But, you asserted that universe is infinite, how? Science says it is infinite, but if you want to pick one assertion from scientific community, can you be selective as to not pick the other assertion?

I am not pointing out the flaws in your theory, I just find the discussion interesting and wanted to interject.

Lastly, if you want to assume there is a God, then why don't we go the otherway? Rather than looking at the largest entity (Universe), why don't we observe the smallest particle: Quarks and Leptons, or perhaps something even smaller. Let's call it the building block. Why can't that be God? After all, every single thing is made up of that particle...including the universe itself.

Kiddo, I am not trying to prove that there is god :) I am simply making a connection between what is perceived to be God in general, and the uncanny similarity of the God 'entity' with the Universe. So my point being that perhaps what is being perceived to be God actually is the Universe itself.

Your own theory that building blocks can be God is up for debate :)

For example an image is made up of pixels. You cannot call one pixel the whole picture. It is simply a building block of the picture and not the whole picture - granted that the whole picture is made up of millions of pixels. While, the all - encapsulating Universe can aptly take all the credits for being the God entity since everything you can imagine is within it :)

So Neo Your Universe = God ?
So in terms of which came first ? The chicken or the egg.
Has the universe been there forever ? Or did it start with the begining of Time as we know.
God definately came after the creation(by defination).

BC

From the very first post I have said that the Universe does not have a beginning or end. Seems like you keep not understanding that basic point :)

My whole point in this is the possibility that the generally revered God 'entity' might be the Universe.

I am not limited by the definition of the big bang Universe imposed upon us by scientists who believe they *might* have an answer to what happened 13 billion years ago. After all anything is possible :)

Yes, it's possible that we are all wrong, but we are free to express our opinions :)

I guess my point is it's entirely on one's perspective on whether to accept the God entity or not, and if accepted-how to define the said entity.
I agree my theory of the smallest particle being a God is flawed, but that was my point. Just like the biggest entity of all can be God-with some sound argument and a little flawed analysis (rejecting the notion of Universe having a start point)-so can the smallest entity can be argued to be a God. Didn't they teach us, we have God in us? Who makes us? God. The smallest particles are also within us and they make ourselves- so they must be God.

I am sure you'll agree that there is no one true doctrine or justification to the definition of religion and the notion of God. It depends upon once perspective and vantage. Likewise, it is wrong to force your belief onto others; not that I am saying you did it. I know you are merely expressing your realizations, I am sharing my opinion as well.

@ Neo... Can anything exist outside of consciousness? Forget about Universe and God for now. Just focus on the inner consciousness you have. Who is observing the external objects? If such an observer exist, then what is the essence of such observer? Are you a mind? Are you a bundle of thoughts? Are you sense organs? Are you an ego? Who are you? And what are you observing here? What happens in dream? Does this Universe still exist for you while you are roaming some different reality? What happens in deep sleep when there is no dream at all? Do Universe still exist for you in your deep sleep state? You open your eyes, you experience this material world; you close your eyes you experience your mental world. You further dive into deep sleep state, there is nothing at all. If reality appears and disappears based on the state of your consciousness, then what is important? Consciousness or Universe? That which don't exist in the beginning and that which don't exist at the end, also doesn't exist in the middle whatsoever.

Although many want to believe scientists' explanation of big bang theory, the theory violates the first law of thermodynamics, which says you can't create or destroy matter or energy. Critics claim that the big bang theory suggests the universe began out of nothing. The Big Bang theory eeriely seems to support the religious creation theory of how God created the universe from nothing.

The concept of no beginning and no end is very hard to swallow but let's take a moment to reflect on what is known about the universe.

Scientists have estimated the theory of Big Bang to have happened 13.8 Billion years ago. So they think that the Universe began 13.8 billion years ago from a point. Let's not even bother about this point. Where did this point come from? Did this point have a beginning? They have also put the size of the observable universe at over 50 Billion light years.

50 billion light years is a distance that we cannot even imagine. One light years is the distance covered by light in one year. It takes about 8 minutes for light to reach us from the Sun which is 93 million miles from earth. So the distance that light travels in 50 billion years is pretty unfathomable.

But, let's get back to the limited nature of our human understanding. We have difficultly believing that the universe is infinite without beginning and end.

Let's for example imagine that the universe is not infinite. So what that means is that for some object travelling in space, it meets the end of the universe. Would the end of the universe be a boundary wall that stops an object from moving further?