Let’s suppose,
Israel gives away the acquired land to Palestine and Lebanon.
Let’s suppose,
India gives away Kashmir as a separate state.
Let’s suppose,
US stop exploiting the Arab Oil.

The biggest question, will it stop!!!!
Muslim Jihad against Jews?
Muslim Jihad against Hindus?
Muslim Jihad against Christians?

What many people don’t realize these days it is not the issue of Land, oil and historical exploitation anymore. It is the biggest religious propaganda and marketing in the misleading definition of Jihad.

Jihad for true Islam would be fight against the evil within but the true definition has been so much twisted and brain washed by Islamic fundamentalist that there is no point of return. This jihad is a deep rooted in the militant’s blood.

If that so our suppose comes true and the question arises will the Jihad stop? How can it stop when anyone beside Muslim are enemy of the Muslim fundamentalist? How can terrorism flourish if there is peace? Will Al Qaeda stop attacking US? What happens to the billions invested in order for Muslim grand design?

What people need to realize is these Islamic fundamentalist are there for reason:
1] Fear of losing the ancient dictatorial way of life with western democracy
2] Fear of losing the religion extremism while assimilating in the universal religion

This is the case of self defense mechanism .Promotion of religious extremism in the name of religion.

What is the relation between a Pakistani giving life for freedom of Palestine?
(As if the life was so cheap)
What is the relation an African Muslim bombing some south Asian country?
(Which may be he never heard of: P)

Have we seen a Mauritius Hindu, coming to fight for Maoist?
Or have we seen a French Christian fighting along with US?

As much as we would like and hope there would be peace on earth. Peace is very far away in this grand design .Even if all the other religion bows down in front of Islam .Will the Islam have mercy on them?

What is the solution when the problem is religion??????--- spin your head!!!

Don't know...not even sure if religion is the only issue...

nk

One has to realize the real motive behind the JIHAd to understand it is not about land.
One has to realize how the muslim terrorist are brain washed to see it is not about oil.
it is about making ISLAM the superior out of ALL!!

"Let’s suppose,
Israel gives away the acquired land to Palestine and Lebanon.
Let’s suppose,
India gives away Kashmir as a separate state.
Let’s suppose,
US stop exploiting the Arab Oil.

The biggest question, will it stop!!!!
Muslim Jihad against Jews?
Muslim Jihad against Hindus?
Muslim Jihad against Christians?"

well if u ask me..until Israel gives back the acquired land..
India gives back Kashmir its freedom..
US stops exploitin..
and other bullcraps happenin in the world is stopped..

well will they stop?so why even come to a conclusion the so called "reactions" to these "actions" will or will not stop?...

one think i do believe(i dunno if u do too)..if those 3 things u did mention were to happen..lets say they did happen...it def will give some ppl(doesnt matter even if its just one person?)..a less substancial reason to hate another?..maybe stop him/her from carryn out jihad?

why spin the head?when the problem isnt the religion?its us!the ppl!:oD..
why blame religion?when we spin everythin for our own cause?even religion?just cos u might say u dun?does it mean another person who spins it for himself/herself cant?we cant control anyone can we?other than ourselves..be liable and responsible for ourselves?..

say the theory of makin Islam the superior of all..is true?(just cos im questionin doesnt mean im sayn its false..im implyn it can be true..it can be not)..so if thats the case..who wants Islam to be superior of al?us Humans?some of us?..who wrote it all anyways?us?way back then?dunno who changed wat..how much..for wat reasons..for whos gain..or if u believe in god?god wrote that huh?

anyways enuf..tho me head is spinnin..ironies are eveywhere..i might be spinnin head of another with the bhakwash im sproutin :oD..

seriously..we cant even solve our own problems(if someone here exists who has every problem of his or hers solved..pls let me know :oD..i havent seen anyone or heard anyone acknowledin that so dun really wanna assume that can be done ;oD )....and we wanna save the world..change the world?..do we wanna do that..hope to do that to give a reason for our existence?..or do we really care for the world?for others?;oP hehe

ok ok...better get me enuf sleep ;oD

good day!head spin or not!;oP

(ps..i think kanchi kinda summarised everything i wanted to say..even tho i havent even started ;oP...in one line of hers :oD...can it just be one issue?if it is?it def is our existence?have u seen animals prayn!!jihad?wahahahaha ;oP...survival of each and own kind i guess?and when there arent others to feed u..eat ur own?:o| or just die out?hmmm would a herbivore turn into a carnivore..if all the plants were to die?;oP..)

IMI said
Let’s suppose,
Israel gives away the acquired land to Palestine and Lebanon.
Let’s suppose,
India gives away Kashmir as a separate state.
Let’s suppose,
US stop exploiting the Arab Oil.
the biggest question, will it stop!!!!


Since Israel left Jordan, there has beeen no attack from Jordan to Israel. Rather Israel and Jordan have very good relation now.

IMI said
What many people don’t realize these days it is not the issue of Land, oil and historical exploitation anymore. It is the biggest religious propaganda and marketing in the misleading definition of Jihad.


Not for oil???USA attacked Iraq saying Saddam has weapons of mass destruction- and by now everyone knows Iraq doesnt possess that. North Korea is saying since a long time that they are building nuclear weapon. USA hasnt attacked North Korea. Why? North Korea doesnt have any important resource like Iraq has oil. Now Iraq, along with Saudi Arabia, are the two biggest sources of oil for America.

IMI said
What people need to realize is these Islamic fundamentalist are there for reason:
1] Fear of losing the ancient dictatorial way of life with western democracy

Oh yeah democratic Israel which has different laws for Jews and Muslims, where Muslim areas get water for one hour in 3 days and Jews settlement have swimming pool in each complex, where the constitution says a Muslim cannot be a Prime Minister. Oh yeah, Israel is a democratic country which USA defends as if it defends itself. Oh did i hear that? Israel is the 52nd state of USA, England is 51st.

IMI sounds like Chuck Roberts who said in CNN that Ned Lamont is an alqaeda candidate-- thanks to brainwashing from Bush adminstration- either you are with us or with "terrorists".

Speaking of CNN, it repeated that Hezbollah hijacked two Israeli soldiers--like how many times? Million? and when Israel imprisoned one third of the Palestine Ministers, 20 Member of Parliament including the Speaker, it didnt make news -even once- in CNN. Oh yeah, US media is fair. By the way, those MPS and minsters are not yet released by Israel. According to IMI who is so in love with the Israeli way of doing things, Palestine should destroy Israeli infrastucture and kill Israeli civilians for kidnapping Palestine's MPs and Minsters, just like Israel destroyed Lebanon because of the kidnapping of two soldiers by Hezbullah, hoina ta IMI?

The bottom line- OCCUPATION CAUSES TERRORISM and TERRORISM DOES NOT CAUSE OCCUPATION.

impressive answer from rein...

Rein.. how easily you ignore the increase of religious fundamentalism ..great job!!

you have no idea how the islamic terrorists are manufactured!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I

Imi, oh boy dont be upset. I agree with you in one thing- the cause of all this trouble is religion -- Bushism

haha rein.. i am not upset .. just as you think i talk for bush.. i think you talk for bin laden.
have nice day:)

let me add to you bottom line
:TERRORISM DOES NOT CAUSE OCCUPATION
Terrorism cause distruction!!!

Imi, you are slowly admittng that your religion is Bushism.. good job boy.. keep it up.

And nay, i dont talk for Bin Laden.. rather I want him dead because

1) People like you dont understand what losing your loved one means. In World trade Center, I lost my best friend. And since then my day starts with one prayer- death to Bin Laden

2) It is the people like Bin Laden (sponsored by USA) who make the US kill more and more innocent people. By the way, you should be knowing that so called war on terrorism has killed more more more innocent people than the so called "terrorism" has.

ok u want to change the bottomline--- here it goes

OCCUPATION CAUSES RESISTANCE.

I am not admitting that i talk as bush it is you who interpreted that.
hmmm... you want bin laden dead ..that is strange?????

Anyways .. as i said you have no idea how islamic terrorist are manufactured.
lets again change you bottom line:
PEOPLE LIVING IN THIER HOME IS NOT OCCUPATION BUT PEOPLE TRYING TO FORCE THEM OUT OF BY TERRORISM IS NOT RESISTANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


SOUCE:http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_territories_occupied_or_not.php
Regardless of how many times the Palestinian Arabs claim otherwise, Israel cannot be characterized as a "foreign occupier" with respect to the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Fundamental sources of international legality decide the question in Israel's favor. The last international legal allocation of territory that includes what is today the West Bank and Gaza Strip occurred with the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine which recognized Jewish national rights in the whole of the Mandated territory, including the sector east of the Jordan River, almost 80% of the original Mandated territory, that was given to Palestinian Arabs and Emir Abdullah to create the country of Trans-Jordan (later renamed Jordan). Moreover, the rights under the Mandate were preserved under the United Nations as well, according to Article 80 of the UN Charter, after the termination of the League of Nations in 1946.

It is important to observe that, from the time these territories were conquered by Jordan, Syria and Egypt in 1948 to the time they were gained by Israel in 1967, the territories were not refered to as "occupied" by the international community. Furthermore, the people living in those territories before 1967 were not called "Palestinians" as they are today; they were called Jordanians and Egyptians. (In fact, before Israel was founded Jews and Arabs alike who lived in the region were called Palestinians. The newspaper was the "Palestine Bulletin" and later the "Palestine Post" before becoming today's "Jerusalem Post", the Jewish-founded electric company was "Palestine Electric" and so on.) There was no call for "liberation" or "national rights" for the Arabs living there and no Palestinian nation was discussed.

IMI, I cant decipher your gross ignorance. Your last post was silly, even by your standard.

HMMMMMMMMM......REALLY???

hmm..first tell me u r standard and ur limit for love for islamic terrorism ..then we will compare..who has what standard..okieee:)

BTW .. i was not supporting terrorism of US or Israel (in you defination ) in this post!!!

i was just pointing out there is more to it than just land and occupation..and yes many people think it is as easy as it sounds..but .. fact remains...it is not so easy!!!!!!!!!

"Let’s suppose,
Israel gives away the acquired land to Palestine and Lebanon.
Let’s suppose,
India gives away Kashmir as a separate state.
Let’s suppose,
US stop exploiting the Arab Oil.

The biggest question, will it stop!!!!
Muslim Jihad against Jews?
Muslim Jihad against Hindus?
Muslim Jihad against Christians?"

Perhaps not. What must follow is: R-E-S-P-E-C-T! Yes, in capitol, and in bold, RESPECT, for the lives, thoughts, inclinations, aspirations, and dreams of the Arabs. No, not for the minority Arabs' dreams to be fundamentalists, but for the majority Arabs' dreams to be free, to live as humans.

That said, yes, return of the Arab lands occupied by Israel would certainly go a long way towards a lasting peace.

Look deeper into history. Much, much deeper than what we general envisage when we think about Arabs and Jews, long before the 1967 Six-Day War, long before the 1948 war, and long, long before the mass migration of the European Jews to Palestine even started.

Up until the Zionist migration to Palestine started in the latter half of the 19th century, encouraged and promoted then by the British, and later by the US, Arabs and Jews lived PEACEFULLY side-by-side, as brothers, sisters, loving neighbors. It was the advent of such ill-advised migration of the European Jews to Palestine that triggered the animosity between the two groups. Many “original” Jews who inhabited the Arab land, mostly Orthodox, still hold a great deal of sympathy for the cause of free Palestine. They resented then, and some still do, the Zionist expansion into Palestine, primarily because it sowed the seeds of hatred and violence between their religion and what they had considered until then their beloved Muslims brothers. Check below the pictures of some Orthodox Jews protesting against Zionist aggression at a recent rally against Israeli actions in Lebanon in New York.

[Courtesy: http://samudaya.org/articles/archives/2006/07/rally_in_nyc_ag.php]

Personally, I believe the creation of Israel was plain wrong in the very first place. However, it is a de facto that cannot be changed now, and I respect the reality of an Israeli state. Nevertheless, Israeli government, and the West, particularly the US, can do much more to allay the source of Islamic fundamentalism by letting go of the occupied territories first, and begin to respect the rights of the Arabs within Israel to equal opportunity, education, health, and other social amenities. Israeli government must stop treating its Arab citizens on a second-class footing.

Of course, terrorism cannot be justified at any cost, on any level. But when military means are only exasperating the crisis, rather than resolve it, one must be open to other means to bring an end to such inhuman acts. And one can begin by carefully examining and coming to a true understanding of the root causes.

De-occupation of Arab lands, and a beginning of embracing of a new perspective of Arab lives will probably not bring peace overnight – decades-old animosity will not be easy to eradicate. But someone has to start somewhere. The responsibility lies primarily with the US and Israel. They can either continue to try to suppress the feelings and aspirations of the Arabs by the virtue of their so-called “War on Terror”; or they can begin to respect the lives and the rights of Arabs, so as to cut the source of fundamentalism. Fundamentalism is not an entity in itself – it is constantly fueled by utter dismay at the seemingly-unbreakable cycle of injustice and suppression.

Talking about fundamentalist dictators? Think about staunch Arab allies of the US: Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia, along with other smaller principalities in the Gulf.

Finally, ImI, change the title if you can. Be original. Unoriginal title suggests to me that your thoughts are likewise.

One more:

Exactly Poonte, US and Israel must stop treating Arabs as sub-human.

Imi- Your diatribe is replete with misinformation, misrepresenatation and misinterpretation of history. I have neither the time nor the inclination to respond to u now.

I like your thoughts poonte..you have much better understanding.

and you admit that yes it would help but not eradicate the muslim fundamentalist and thier jihad..

we all hope peace but what i presented was also hard not impossible..i think they need to compromise.Israel and palestines .lebanese should live peacefully .There should be peace on earth.

p.s : don't judge book by its cover..title has nothing to do with me and my thoughts resemblance .actually most of the issue i don't agree with bill oreilly..it has just started so ..title shouldn't have a problem:)