Personally, I think this is a waste of time and a case of misplaced priorities at this time in Nepal.

Besides, no one really "owns" 24 Chaitra.

But hey, so long as people protest against things they don't like and they don't resort to violence and pit-pat/kutai/mukka-mukki and all that, freedom of expression is all that matters.


oohi
ashu


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Dears,

This year Miss Nepal Beauty
Contest is happening on 24 Chaitra 2063. Which is very
historical day in our political history.


Also every year we are protesting
against this contest.

In 2061 v.s.
we made 59 members organising committee. Khagendar
Sangraula was coordinator.

We are
planning to make broad joint organising committe. So I
would like to invite you with friends to come for the
meeting.

Time: 2
o'clock

Date: 8 Chaitra 2063 (22nd
March 2007), Thrusday

Venue:
Gautamm Buddha Sabha Ksha
New Plaja,


(United Graphic Printers and
Transperancy Imnternational office's building, white
house, fourth floor)

Tele:
4419610

Coordination: Women Forum
for Democratic Republican
(WFDR)


In
solidarity

I also think these beauty contests are "useless" and no matter how hard they try to fool others by saying it is "beauty with brain contests", they are in reality "beauty with flesh" contests".
But those who routinely organize protests against it are also fools. People have right to organize whatever "contests" they want and people also have right to participate, as long as they don't harm others. I think if the government itself invests in such "contests", it should be protested.

टीभी, पत्रिकाहरुमा दुई-चार दिन फेरि राम्रा-राम्रा तरुनीहरु देख्न पाईने भयो! यी संग्रौला बाजेलाई पनि के भ'को हो? यीनले जति नाङ्ला ठटाए पनि यस्ता कण्टेष्ट भने बढ्या-बढ्यै छन्, भाग लिने मैयाँहरु पनि बढ्या-बढ्यै छन्! सडकाँ बसेर हल्ला गर्नु भन्दा त स्कूलहरुमा गएर ९-१० पढ्ने केटीहरुलाई यस्ता कण्टेष्ट-सण्टेष्ट ठीक हैनन् है नानी हो भनेर बुझाए हुन्थ्यो बरु, अनि बरु केहि राम्रो परिणाम निस्किन्थ्यो कि?! गफै त हो!

Ashu,
I am NOT against beauty contest. I apologize if this thread is only for those who are against beauty contest (in Nepal???). It seems you brought the topic with your hypocrite expression.

- You "personally" think it is waste of time so you are whining the loudest.
- You find more democratic to oppose beauty contest than to participate / organize beauty contest.

Kiran

Kiran,

Thank you for your lovely compliments.

*******
Background info if you are new to Sajha:

Since early 2000, I have been SHARING -- in a spirit of voluntarily
ad-hoc public service -- news and views on Sajha, and will
continue to do so whenever I feel like it.

I do NOT expect all my postings to appeal to all people all
the time everywhere -- and my views make up just one small slice
among many here.

And that's the way it is.

The liberation one feels on posting stuff without having to play to one's gallery is something I greatly cherish in Sajha's democratic
"we the people" environment.

That said, if you still insist on hurling adjectives, please direct your abuse to: ashu at sajha dot com

Thank you, Kiran, for understanding.

oohi
ashu

Nepal is gettin modernize
datz it
whats so bad about it?

Ashu,
It does not matter whether one is new or OLD in sajha or for that matter anywhere else. Anyway, it is good to know - you are CONTRIBUTING in sajha since last 6/7 years - KUDOS to you. BTW, I am not very new in Sajha I might not have posted... teti ho...

It is such an irony that you are offended on a minor (may be positive) criticism; but you expect Wah Wah from others when you do the same to others (contextl -- the beauty contest).

You have right not to like beauty contest for WHATEVER reason. You are enjoying your freedom of expression so are beauty contest organizer, participants. Does the participant / organizer have a right to say "SHUT UP ASHU on this topic, we are enjoying the freedom expression". Just curious to know your opinion hai...

Kiran

I agree with the idea of expression,it shouldnt be banned or limited for and against certain groups of people. I,too,personally think beauty contests are total wastes.it's non sense and has absolutely no value whatsoever in contestents' lives.
It gives a short lived psuedo sense of glory for the winners and a long lasting sense of loss to the losers.Psychological analysts would agree that one loss in a person's endeavors holds them back mentally which later reflects on their overall development.Think of the girls who are working so hard to get selected in the first place.then comes the competition,think of the rest of the participants who lose.What messeges does it send to their subliminal self? their thoughts do revolve around the circles of imperfections about their body,looks,styles of their talking points,and so called brain and beauty material content.These contests hence are meaningless in terms of social good and services.

And about the 24 chaitra...I am against choosing this day.It has a very special meaning to all who care a little bit about democratic movement and suffering of the people who so valiantly involved themselves in that pivotal juncture against the aristocracy.The brave people of Kathmandu,Patan,kirtipur in particular ;we owe it to them and remember their beliefs of freedom and democracy on that particular day.I wish they could see the future then that the glory of 24th of chaitra, 2046 in nepali history would dim out the way it has in the light of following events.A generational gap has emerged since then,a tectonic shift has caused a wide rift on the ways the people think about issues nowadays-global events,some good some bad.It all depends on an individual's point of view.There is no absolute truth about who is right and who is wrong,because some want to celebrate that day and some want to remember and perhaps lament.
I am one of the ones who want to remember it,consider it a day that has true heroism,sacrifice and ray of freedom which helped educate people at least in terms of basic democracy and civic lessons.It helped our society today as it is now to launch its strides towards republicanism.

bme,
your first paragraph is total nonsense. Only if you are afraid of competition... With your logic, there should not be competition in school either. Sometime we get news like, student jumped off the cliff after SLC exam or like that. So, should we scrap SLC exam? Dude, get in to competition else people may label you as coward. So is beauty contest. Get in to it. Most of the criticisms are like "Angoor amilo chha".

I do agree that they could have choosen some GOOD day consultin nepali PATRO or after consultation with vibrant pundits. That way (astrologically) people like yourself would not criticise this event. Who knows.. the effect of astrology??? wink wink...

Kiran

Mr Kiran77,
You didnt seem to get my point I think. I am against beauty contest,that's my personal matter of liking or disliking and you dont have to subscribe to my opinion.It's sad that you have put the academic world in par with a purely glamor oriented personal adventure that entitles a shot lived fame and disappears afterwards.SLC is a valid and national examination every student must take it. I also did it not
because I want to be the board first or second or 1000th. There is no comparision
between SLC and beauty contest and shouldnt be seen as being of equal in their
respective terms of productivity and creativity. Your analogy of beauty contests having
as much broad,valid, equally standard and 10 years of hard work of a student is as equalof7 days of bikini wearing,bra padding and turning of a natural habit of walking into a feline manner by these girls. Give me a name of one beauty queen,miss world
universe,pokhara,kathmandu dharan any of them who have had a meaningful impact in
the life of an ordinary people,I m sorry I cant name one such deed from the brainy and beutiful women's parade that has been being staged since almost 2 decade..,

MR BME2005,
Your fixation is that you think you are complex, difficult to decode in one go. No one gives a damn about ur personal opinion. It is a matter of concern if you speak in public. And I believe, sajha is public. YES, the analogy of academic is at PAR with glamour and if you have not seen this, it is ur problem. Try and get rid of your fixation first then you will see reasons on everything. So is beauty contest. Beauty is natural gift. Sorry if you are not so much gifted. But hey, let those gifted people express themselves. Who are you to judge whether the happiness/ success they get is short lived? Why worry if it is short lived? Tyra Bank's happiness is not short lived, Naomi Campbell's happiness is probably longer than you can think of, Or take Aishwarya Rai.

As you mentioned that 10 years hard work is not comparable with 7 days of bikini padding, feline walking etc etc. Dude, no one can become beauty queen just because she walks 7 days on the ramp. Just like 7 days of exam needs 10 years of preparation, models / beauty queens also need many more years of hard work. You need eye and brain to appreciate the beauty unless you have ... You are searching equality in analogy, makes me laugh. Search equity on analogy dude...

There are plenty of examples where beauty queens have impactedthe society in positive note. I can hardly think of an average or just above average student can ever raise money for the social need. He/she will struggle for living until he/she dies. (I can not tell for sure if anyone has done so) But if needed, even miss pokhara/Dharan can collect millions of Rupees easily for a charity. How about that? Will that be a big impact?

May be it is time to think about being your self as Mr. Pokhara or Mr. Dharan. How about that? Wink wink...
Kiran

Kiran77ji,
I appreciate your comments.We are poles apart in our views it seems.I see beauty contest as not as much productive and creative compared to academia for example.You see it the other way.I dont take sajha posts as serious at all and dont regard it a public forum in truest sense that holds a merit and warrants my opinion to be counted as an archive of public discussion.So for me it's just a venue of writing whatever I deem right and provoke discussion and debates,albeit invisible,from people like you who might hold differing views. So it's a personal forum for me and I write whatever I want to. To be fixated in my views is what I am and will always be,you can argue for the merits of beauty contests and I can argue agaisnt it and for something else that I think is right.
How do you measure beauty by the way? what are the standards/formulae? If the beauty lies in the eyes of beholders,then why there be a need of it to show it off? My question rather wanted a little bit of delving into the philosophical discourse of needing a beauty show or not,but you made it of as meritorious as an academic pusuit is.And the utmost important who are these corporate executives who have the right to either qualify or disqualify someone as miss nepal/usa/universe? My question to seek the integrity and the consistency of their judgement. But since you seem to be such an ardent supporter of such shows I do have some questions just because of curiousity.

You said being able to win and participate in beauty contest needs as hard a work as studying is. You didnt write why a beauty queen needs to walk in a feline fashion? is it because the viewers and judges of her movement have some banalistic aura that sparks some deeply enlightening meter that qualifies her as the best cat walk? Or may be the ramification of walk takes them into some sort of Eucladian theory of geometry from where only she is fitted into the right shape and size that fits into the mathematical equation of beauty?

I have not seen a single Miss Nepal cross the corridors of Nepali airlines cabin,let alone them impacting the lives of Nepalese people. By the way Tyra Banks doesnt sound like a Nepali name to me,is it the case?

And a final note: No I dont need to fight for Mr Pokhara and Mr Dharan. My views are clear on these things,rather you might want to consider it for yourself

Just wondering if any of you've watched "Little Miss Sunshine".

Miss Nepal from the past makes me want to laugh... My maid me better looking than "some" of them....

me = is

theres nothing wrong with appreciating beauty, its a good thing.

well i think the reason behind choosing that date is basically to create more media hype..by doing so they will be gaining more publicity......organizing beauty contest is definitely a progressive step however it sucks to see nepal being represented by some of the dumbest girls.

thats true jotishi!!! seriously the miss nepal contestants are never beautiful or talented

Kiran,

Thank you again for showing some kiran (aka light) to those of us who wallow in our "hypocrisy" and what not.

That said, I do not expect any wah wah for this (I get enough of that at work, seriously!), but the following pretty much sums up my views about beauty contests.

- http://www.nepalitimes.com/issue/209/StrictlyBusiness/1684

Other than that, my sense is that many young women who show up as contestants are pretty smart, career-savvy and driven to be a success in their chosen fields: the sort of women Nepal can never have enough of.

oohi
ashu

Bme 2005:

I never tried to imagine the 'beauty contest' for the loser's point of view. You are so right that it could really impact the lives of those girls who lost the contests but will exactly know why? I think being not able to know the criteria could be really bumming.

Again, India is a classical example of long time beauty contest organizer? Have we heard of any of those winners doing anything for the society? of course besides shaking their bum in the bollyhood songs. Look at beauty contest in US for instance, the girl came to stage from the rehab of alcohol addiction or something!!!!

And i think at this point Naomi is doing some social work because she happen to hit her maid with a cell phone.. so much for their social service for the society

I am not into beauty contests but i am not for it either. I really feel the the amount they spend in the contest should be spent for a cause especially in the case of Nepal. I think we should not forget the great women of our country who suffer in every stage of their lives and wish we could do something for them and to build their lives.

Ashu,
Thanks for the link and yes I did reread it. I agree with your assessment and you have done a terrific job analysing the behind the scenes inner workings of such Bazaar.
I do not need to be a Leftist or communist to see beauty contests as the subject of debate and discussion.Nor someone has to be labelled as an agent of capitalist multi nationals. Any topic deserves to be discussed and scrutinised from whatever perspectives one likes to do. We all profess to be balanced on our comprehension of any issues,name it..for the debates themselves are caused by one's willingness and interests to debate. And interest comes from within yourself that already has a foundation laid out on the matrix of perceptions of the issues. For me, I am against beauty contests for the reasons I deem right and just,not the reasons the Left and Multinationals see wrong vs. right.