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xbox
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Posted on 06-22-07 12:19
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what you guys think about KG going to Phoenix for Stoudemire and next years unprotected first round draft from Atlanta.
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Downtown guy
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Posted on 06-22-07 12:39
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its ridiculous first of all .. baecause phoenix does not need KG even though KG is a great ball player .. the point is.... the system the phoenix plays does not suit KG .. Kg is more good more with the ball around him .. not without the ball like Shaq or Dirk .. and nash is already there to play the super point .. so he would not be as effective as u might think .. by the way .. do not mistake me by saying .. phoenix could add some DEFENSE .. HELLO .. stoudemire .. marion .. raja bell .. are one of the most great defensive one on one player .. it is the run and gun system that phoenix use .. that does not prefer to defend more rather .. go for the basket as soon as possbile .. they rely on more shots at basket .. thats disrupt the opponent rhythm... KG is one of the best .. but not for ..esp .. phonix.. with nash running the point ..the way he has the ball all the times ... KG likes to play point cum forward .. he does not like to wait for the ball and shoot .. anyway .. he wil not be traded to western conf anyway .. he is going to eastern or will stay at minnesota ..
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AX
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Posted on 06-22-07 12:39
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xbox you must be a Minny fan.. at this stage, Amare is better player than KG. Bulls have the best offer to give, be it KG, Kobe or Jermaine.
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Posted on 06-22-07 12:49
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i do beleive bulls might have the best offer .. but .. KOBE will not be traded this year .. for sure .. coz the lakers will have everything to lose .. KG might go there .. but he also has power to void the trade like he did yesterday saying no to boston .. jermaine is always hurt ..
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Posted on 06-22-07 1:10
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doesn't it feel nice to think we are all coaches...:) on the same token, I dunno how can AX say Amare is better than KG in current situation. Amare is Amare because of Nash, without Nash his production would be nowhere near what it is right now, and his defense and rebounding doesn't even come close to KG's. IF phoenix wants to compete with Spurs and Duncan then need KG, and Nash is not getting younger, they need to win now with Nash at the helm. But, with all that said, I can see why Phoenix is hesistant to give up Amare, their future. The best thing about AMare is he is young, only 24 and came back nicely from the injury that has affected so many other stars in the past. I am not big wolves fan but more of KG fan and hoping he can get somewhere with a chance to win, and that of course would be with Nash. If Phoenix can somehow pull off getting KG without giving up Amare I would be happier, but I don't see it happening. Another scenario that I would personally prefer is KG going to Warriors, damn that would be sth, KG+baron together.
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Posted on 06-22-07 1:28
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Posted on 06-22-07 2:11
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unknown bro, i stand by my pick. Amare had similar season to last year before Nash arrival.... Why would I trade away mobile, power forward to a 13 year veteran who makes almost twice the salary..... Dirk And JJ proved me that players can put up better nos w/o Nash. Amare always have good nos against Spurs. Suns better have good coaching if they want to surprass Spurs & Mavs in Western Conf. If Suns were to package Marion, Barbosa with draft picks for KG, I would have no problem.
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Posted on 06-22-07 2:17
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Ax bro, at least we agree with the second part, I would have no problem either if Suns can get KG for Marion, Barbosa and others.
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Posted on 06-22-07 2:59
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that ain't gonna happen unknown coz Mn is looking for stoudemire not marion or barbosa.
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AX
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Posted on 06-22-07 3:13
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xbox, if you are thinking Wolves may get better offer than Barbosa + Marion then you are dreamin'... Those two are borderline All Stars. And you won't be getting Marion for cheap..... he be asking Max Salary after 2 years I like KG to play for Bulls.... But you won't be getting proven players like Barbosa and Marion.
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Posted on 06-22-07 3:27
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if marion goes to MN that will be temporary . coz he might look for another team after two years. but if MN can get stoudemire then he will be locked up for atleast 4, 5 yrs. which is beneficial for MN. Mn will ask for stoudemire
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AX
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Posted on 06-22-07 3:38
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Then I see KG playing one more year for Minny and he will opt out to play next to D Howard in Sunny Florida..... worse situation???
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Posted on 06-22-07 6:21
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AX bro -- KG is headed to Pheonix if three team deal works out. Marion to Boston, Al jeff to MN. KG bro to Suns. But to trade him, teams need a oath from garnet that he wont opt out next year. if they send them to boston, he can easily opt out next year and become a knicks. Knicks will have plenty of money to offer from salary cap. KG got to go to Big cities like NY.
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Posted on 06-22-07 8:05
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Beltran, KG wont opt out if he goes to Suns, he is dreaming to play with Nash of course. Just reading newspaper article from arizona republic, it seems Kerr is still trying to work out a deal for KG and he said nobody is untradable, that includes Stoudemire. But he is also weary of the financial part of it, I mean having KG + Stoudemire on the same team will shoot their salary through the roof, maybe KG will be willing to play for lesser money....but ya as u said, they need to find someone to dump off Marion. Either that or do KG Stoudemire swap....:).
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Posted on 06-22-07 9:02
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please do not trade this Black Wolves...from Minny.....!!! I love this guy spend his entire basketball career here...!!! God damn it ..they need to fire off GM McHale .....!!!
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Posted on 06-23-07 11:37
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mn has to trade kg coz he they wait till next year, he will opt out his contract and mn will get nothing. but if they can trade him now, they can get some good player. same thing with marion he will opt out his contract next year so mn wont take him as a trade. thats the reason mn wants Stoudemire. Ani beltran bro, who told u NY has cap left. Ny is the team with highest cap. they are way off of the limit. Their salary is almost 93 mil. so dont think they have anyplace to add KG. anyway it will be good for him if he goes to team like phoinex or dallas.
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AX
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Posted on 06-25-07 5:59
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the rumor has it, KG is coming to LA. If it is true, this non Lakers fan would go see 2 Home games this season What's up with Bostonians??? Celts legends Kevin McHale and Larry Bird with Celtic HELPING Lakers to get KG??? I hope there is a way to include Lakers Shotime Coach Pat Riley and Shaq in this mess.... Sounds like something is wrong in NorthEast Air these days... Is Big Papi on Sale too??? Yankees needs DH and they can extend his contract :=) It the trade happens, Wolves owner should fire Kevin McHale and sell the team, Larry Bird Should fire himself...... Ainge??? He should have fired long time ago :=)
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Posted on 06-25-07 10:53
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All are rumors. KG stays in MN.
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Posted on 06-26-07 9:56
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Twin cities, I am Sorry to say that KG wont be staying in MN next year.
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Posted on 06-26-07 10:37
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I second twin cities...KG aint going anywhere. trades involving him makes for a good speculation discussion but that's about it all. nor is kobe going anywhere. players like KG & Kobe make more than 50% of total nba salary cap. so unless you have some very good 1st-2nd year players no one team can afford them, unless ofcourse you pay the luxury tax...which is for every $1 you go over you'll have to pay another $1 or 100% tax. everyone keeps talking about the bulls in these big name rumors but why would they want to part ways with their young nucleus and bring on KG or Kobe with their huge contracts?? yes they will be the favorites to win for the next 1-2-3 years but it won't be a done deal. the suprs aren't going anywhere and jazz will only get older and experienced. so if the bulls make deal for one of these guys and don't win in the next few years they are looking at another long rebuilding just like the ex jordan era that took them good 6-8 years. when they can just keep the core group of guys they have right now, keep grooming them and let them get the experince and you can be a really good competitive team for the next 10 years. so any trade involving these big names guys with the bulls for their young guys just don't make sense to me....not to mention bulls have a couple decent expiring contracts that they can use to go after may be not a super star type but certainly an allstar type i.e. shawn marion anyways...good to see some familiar names to talk hoops on a slowww day at work. ax and unknown bro, you guys excited abt this year's draft? i am...esp for our fantasy draft...there will be some sleepers
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