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amne
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Posted on 08-07-07 6:23
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nirvantel company exits or not i agree with you ,these things are just a way of tricking neplese living in the US and they do not have proper info about the company and specially the CS people they irritate you so much ...some of them even call late at night when you are sleeping from cell phones and landline nos. they are selling products or what the hell ..can't figure out ..im really irritated and will have a few of my friends do something about it and i hope they are not tempering with the CC info they get over the phone . Nirvantel needs to professionalize rather then personalise the event of selling calling cards over the phone ..specially the females bugging us with calls and emails . we would like to request owner of NirvanaTel.com, and the owner RohiaLohit to check on the problems before these things get too serious and may get black listed very soon in the US ,as it is already having a bad reputation with the price and poor services and more over with little info about the company and employees calls and emails , don't personalise your company .Have profesionals work for you and not sick callers knocking 24/7 at peoples residence on personal interest.
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Posted on 08-07-07 9:29
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that's true. I don't like either calling all the times even though you don't have interest.
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GP
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Posted on 08-07-07 10:48
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RC Nepal is a NEW joke and SCAM TOPIC among Nepalis living in US. How would you get rid of it? The company employs young kids who does not know the US standard. Here are a few tips: 1. Ask the caller their proof of genuine-ness of the company. US counter part. 2. BBB symbol in their website. 3. Link between RohiyaLohit or LohitRohiya or Puja Soap Maker or whatever. There should be URL Link. 4. At the end of the web page (at bottom), the copy right notice should include company not the website builders. If this is a genuine company. 5. No Post Box address please. Physical address. They asked me to send my relatives to their office to verify their real presence in real world .... Why the hell would I ask my relatives to their office. 6. The biz community in nepal needs to create bureau that provides GENUINE-NESS of a company. It should be accountable, and it should work to resolve problems faced by public, and should pull its trigger and fire on those who do not comply to their rules and regulations: remove their name from the list. It should be truly professional: daju bhai sala bhena ko company does not matter. Otherwise, it will be another source of running scam by relatives of employees or officers or executives affiliated to this organization. Nepal needs such an independent body. Wow, we Nepalis want to run biz, but seek such organization be sponsored by govt. ..... What a F mentanlity do we have. Such govt. sponsored bureau means more corruptions and less efficient. These biz house should create for them, only thing they should ask govt is to punish the frauds. Well, we love communism when it comes to investing money from govt., and we love capitalism when it comes to profitting. We have to select one of them. I would prefer to have capitalism type of biz model. Biz house should develop BBB tupe of bureau to control fraud companies and to honor good service providers, and also credit bureau's to identify a cheating customer from great honorable customer. 7. These phony kids tell you 1 800 number of the company for complains. That means it has a link to US, and it is where we can make a complain if you are not satisfied with their service. It can help to close fake 1 800 help number. 8. Just hang up the phone number. These kids even don't know your name, what they know is family name probably obtained from SuperPages.com or verizon's yellow book. 9. Just tell them that you will do research and act accordingly. I don't have time at this moment, and I will do it in future. Hang up. Who cares! 10. Learn to tackle the sitaution. Talk and talk, but don't leak: your name, phone number (cell), your id, your work place, your address.... don't release your credit card or SSN, NOT at ALL. Talk if you have time. Don't get angry. Just talk. Talking too much means wasting their time, not letting them make any money out of your talk. You can lie to him: Hey I don't have credit card. You know, in 1997 when Who's Who in the Word published my information (they told to me they have already scheduled thats why they were calling), they asked me 1000 dollars for the Who's Who in world directory of the year. I talked to a lady (in an international phone call) for about hour. She was tryin to convince me to release her my credit card number at that moment. I did not bend and release. I told her that "I don't have credit card". She asked me to find a friend. I told her "I can not ask my friend". She asked me to ask my boss / colleague / or even my bank to send money by telegraph. .... She even asked me, "What kind of person you are?". Yes, it is me. Finally, she gave up. I am not sure whether my name was published or not in the directory, but after that I got so many other offers to publish my name in Who's who in ....I just realized what are these Who's who in ..... When I see Who's who in some young researcher's office or house, I just laugh at these poor fellows who paid $xx to get that plaque where you can publish as many times as you want as long as you are willing to pay $xx for the plaque. One of colleague was publicized that s/he got published for 12 consecutive years. Hahahaha.... what a joke (to me). I don't believe in such paid Who's who in the world stuffs. They are just trapps. So, you should make your own criteria where to pay and where not to pay. Do some research. Study is the best solution to such problems. You study more, you learn more, you avoid being trapped frequently in this greedy world. There are biz tricks to fool poor guys like us: BS stuffs in BIG bold characters, and important disclaimer in small asterik character in a corner. If you fail to assume that there is note (underline note) such as ASTERIK somewhere in the notice, then you are certainly a target victim of SCAM. Last week, I slapped a guy from SPRINT, who told me over phone that "you are selected for free ....", and I asked him how many people got such free stuffs? He said "Only you". I again asked him, why would you offer me such great thing in free of charge, who am I? He said it is lottery. Then, I asked him why would someone offer me such free thing? How will get your salary? .... After volleying several minute, he said we are offering few phone free to our customers.... Finally, he told me that all those who were called were offered such free stuffs. Then, I asked him what is your clause .... tell me the terms and conditions. Can I quit any time? Nope, sign for two years? What a BS. Finally, he apologized and left the phone with "I am sorry to distrub you". Well, I do such research / studies when I am free, and need to learn how to tackle these scammers. Well, everyone else in my home asks me why can not you simply hang up, my answer to them is why should I ? I am getting free of charge discussion forum, and a masala. I am losing Nothing other than my free time. I enjoy it. One of the recent such free talk was with NirvanaTEL, and I consumed their morethan half hour phone time. This is the only way you can discourage them. Let me tell you another way I participate in discouraging these scammers. When I get CREDIT CARD offers, what I do is that I tear the offer and pack it inside their prepaid envelope and return to them. At least, USPS will get paid. If millions of people put their objection the way I mentioned above, I am sure the corporate trick will reduce to minimum level. Enjoy talking to them over phone. Don't release your information. Tell them that if it is free send anything you wish even your SH## to my mail box, I don't care.
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भउते
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Posted on 08-07-07 10:58
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....Enjoy talking to them over phone. Don't release your information. Tell them that if it is free send anything you wish even your SH## to my mail box, I don't care...... लोल जिपी-दाइ हा हा हा हा हा ......
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Posted on 08-07-07 11:14
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भउते guru - namaste namaste!
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भउते
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Posted on 08-07-07 11:36
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नेलु-चेली, नमस्ते नमस्ते ! अनि के छ त हालखबर? सबै बेशै होला के रे ! उता "बिजी" देखेर डिस्टर्ब गर्न मन लागेन। मैले लेखेको नेपाली बुझ्यौ कि बुझिनौ ? अनि यो बुझ्यौ कि बुझेनौ भनेर लेखेको बुझ्यौ कि बुझेनौ फेरि ? बुझे "बुझेँ" लेख्नु, नबुझे "बुझिन" लेख्नु ल ! यो तिम्रो लागि आजलाई होमओर्क।
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amne
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Posted on 08-07-07 11:37
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GP dai , I know how you feel about Nirvanatel ,its not a scam but what we are irritated about is the personal calls we get from the kido (females) as you mentioned from the office and from outside,when we kindly give them our phone nos. and email add ,they take advantage and get too personal not knowing our lives out here is more demanding then people living out there . All we have to say is that ,NirvanaTel should chuk employees those who breech the rules and get personal rather than doing business for the company.It's so disturbing to find emails in the mail box not on business but on personal interest. I have tried NirvanaTel and I feel the service is satisfactory,the company should have matured people and not some playful kids calling and having the time of their lives ,there's an employee who has become the laughing stock of our squad at the college. Calling like hell personally .Talk to them nicely they are all over you . so these should stop and proper running of the company should be thought about. You may never know when the credit card info we give may backfire not by the company but by the employees working there . This is a serious matter .Should pay heed and not just let it pass by " saying KE HUNCHA RA ? " Companies like these are round the globe but Nepal has to improve on the professionalism and secrecy of the business. For NEpAL
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amne
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Posted on 08-07-07 11:50
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भउते , Please respect peoples' opinion and views ,nirvanTel is not bad but just here and there adjustments should be made to cater to your own people living out here.Bring maturity in your employees and employ people with dedication for the company rather than having to get personal profit through NirvanaTel. Look before you leap ,here don't let your employees leap before they are well trained ,i have no grudges against NirvanaTel but the way it is functioning. So you too भउते bro. think about this and lets get things working for you and us . for NEpal
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Posted on 08-07-07 12:08
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Man if that is really a problem goto FCC and stop bitching about it here. Or goto Nirvantel's website and say or do something. How did they get your phone number ? If you gave it to them then then why complain ? Put yourself in that federal no call list and if they still keep calling you take their asses to court instead of COMING HERE BITCHING ABOUT IT. OR GOTO BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU.
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Posted on 08-07-07 12:16
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amne-Jee I was not making fun of your opinion/views. I just couldn't help myself laughing when I read that particular line. Sorry for exploiting your thread though. Good day !
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Posted on 08-07-07 12:25
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Here is more info about this site Domain rcnepal.com Netblock owner ThePlanet.com Internet Services, Inc. IP address 70.86.180.98 Country US Nameserver ns145.websitewelcome.com Date first seen October 2003 DNS admin root@city.websitewelcome.com Domain Registry unknown Reverse DNS city.websitewelcome.com Organisation unknown Nameserver Organisation Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc., PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1, C/O websitewelcome.com, Bellevue, 98007, United States os lunix Server Apache/1.3.37 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635.SR1.2 mod_ssl/2.8.28 OpenSSL/0.9.7a PHP-CGI/0.1b last change 7-Aug-2007 Netblock Owner ThePlanet.com Internet Services
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Posted on 08-07-07 12:37
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Sagar jasto gahiro gahiro .... hamro maya .... hunchha ra .... hunchha ni. hunchha niiiiiiiiiiiiii ko style ma padhou la:
Meri posting delete garna hunchha ra?
Hunchha aaa ni! Hunchha niiiiiiiii.
San lai thank you dina hunchha ra?
Hunchha ni! Hunchha niiiiiiiiiiiiii!
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amne
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Posted on 08-07-07 12:55
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GP sir, you talk a lot of sense , you are a man of knowledge .I feel ambarassed to share with you mine and freinds' experiences so please don't waste it here , NirvanaTel should not be put to test all alone ,the same experience rather worse ,a female called me ...and she was cool but then she got too emotional calling me after work ..emailing me on personal gains .i know she is doing these to get more business from me and recommend her to my friends but we are no fools.Smoothing her way to states i donot want to mention her name here ...so that boy just asked you to buy a card as he didnot make good business ..but imagine a female getting personal ,she has becomea a laughing stock out here ...among friends ..i can't even enjoy a peaceful weekends with friends ..i curse for getting myself into this. These things should be stopped by NirvanaTel.Restriction should be there . for NEpal
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Posted on 08-07-07 1:15
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nepali_toronto, for GP Sir, Anybody can have a site done on the server : information you have given ..even if you are living in timbaktu...so doesnot make sense we are looking for concrete company and its physical existence .So please don't mind ,do you want me to forward a few of the server information ::: do you need the cpanel information and super panel info too ..NS1 and NS2 ...So please stop this and its getting a bit messy now. control your employees from making calls beyond the need of teh company and its business. Thank you for nepal
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Posted on 08-07-07 1:49
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GP GOTO NIRVANA TEL AND SAY IT IN THEIR FACE IF YOU HAVE THE BALLS !!! STOP BITCHING ABOUT IT HERE LIKE A GRIZZLY. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM .....YOU SOLVE IT ....NOT BITCH AND MOAN ABOUT IT TILL ETERNITY. AND BITCHING ABOUT IT HERE IN SAJHA IS NOT GOING TO HELP YOU. SOMEONE ALREADY POSTED ALL THE INFO ABOVE SO WHY DON"T YOU TAKE UP ON THAT OPPERTUNITY INSTEAD OF JUST YAKING ABOUT IT.
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Posted on 08-07-07 2:13
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Sagar jasto gahiro gahiro .... hamro maya .... hunchha ra .... hunchha ni. hunchha niiiiiiiiiiiiii ko style ma padhou la:
Meri posting delete garna hunchha ra?
Hunchha aaa ni! Hunchha niiiiiiiii.
San lai thank you dina hunchha ra?
Hunchha ni! Hunchha niiiiiiiiiiiiii!
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Posted on 08-07-07 2:43
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Sagar jasto gahiro gahiro .... hamro maya .... hunchha ra .... hunchha ni. hunchha niiiiiiiiiiiiii ko style ma padhou la:
Meri posting delete garna hunchha ra?
Hunchha aaa ni! Hunchha niiiiiiiii.
San lai thank you dina hunchha ra?
Hunchha ni! Hunchha niiiiiiiiiiiiii!
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Posted on 08-07-07 2:44
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All I am saying is that Sajha is not the right place for you to lodge your complaint. If it was just a coment ok... its could have been "hey guys beware of this company" end of story. Not write a thesis on that company lasting for eternity is a bit dragging. And my english is not that good either to be comended, my english sucks(according to the literates).
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Posted on 08-07-07 3:01
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Sagar jasto gahiro gahiro .... hamro maya .... hunchha ra .... hunchha ni. hunchha niiiiiiiiiiiiii ko style ma padhou la:
Meri posting delete garna hunchha ra?
Hunchha aaa ni! Hunchha niiiiiiiii.
San lai thank you dina hunchha ra?
Hunchha ni! Hunchha niiiiiiiiiiiiii!
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Posted on 08-07-07 3:56
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Gp Sajha is the appropriate place rey ? he he So when you go buy a pair of pants and it don't fit properly you would go to a sari shop and complain about the pants ? No you goto the pants shop and lodge a complaint not in the sari shop right ? he he thas all I am trying to say.
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