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Amazing
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Posted on 05-15-08 3:28
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Ive been reading his articles, listening interviews in Nepali media for last few years (esp in Himal Media publications). I was little curious to know abt his background, googled and asked few friends and they also asked the same question 'Yes Who is C K Lal?' We all know he is a political analyst who writes in English and Nepali perfectly with his own logic, then speaks in Hindi (I heard him in BBC Hindi service). I wd be glad to know more about him. If u know something, please do share.
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 05-15-08 3:34
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झिल्के ब्रो, सी के लाल लाई म राम्रो संग चिन्दछु। इन्जिनियर्स एशोसियसन मा सकृय हुनुहुन्थ्यो र अझै पनि हुनु हुन्छ। पेशा ले इन्जिनियर , सडक बिभागमा जागिरे हुनु हुन्छ। तराइ मूलका सीके लाल को पुरा नाम हो-चन्द्र किशोर लाल कर्ण।
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Posted on 05-15-08 3:35
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.By Profession, he is an engineer. He was pursuing Masters Degree in Pulchowk Campus when I first met him. He used to work in Sadak Bibhag by that time. I don't know if he still works in there. Besides that, everybody knows about his writing skill and his speeches. :-)
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Amazing
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Posted on 05-15-08 3:39
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Thanks RahulDai and Kumle Dude for the info. ----- Kumle, on a differnt note, Becoz of you my craze has gone down by 50% in Sajha shoutbox
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 05-15-08 3:40
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अझै जागिरे छन। फस्ट क्लास को लिखित परिक्षामा निकाले पनि कहिलेइ बढुवा हुनु भएन। हामी जस्तै थर्ड किलास मै। लेखाइ भने फस्ट् किलास कै छ है।
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kanchu!
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Posted on 05-15-08 3:43
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He has bachelor in civil engg and did master in urban planning fro pulchowk campus during 2001/2002. he was leader of master student. he was i guess engineer is irrigation dept. He is one of those who takes money from indian embassy, raw and always presents his arguments favoring india and criticizing monarch or nepalese establishment ( not this monarch, when birendra was king). He does not have good literal english, nor he can speak good (fluent) english. most of the people wonder how he able to write in english..well he try to take some cliche' and verbose words into his writing to show as if he is good writer as a matter of fact when you met him you will realize....
he however, seems to have read lot of literature relating politics and history, and try to interpret that in his own words..some time i like his argument sometime not...but back in 2001/2002 no one knew who he was...
i remeber how he gave controversial speech to starnews during the time of roylal massacre...while ram chandra paudel, kunda dixit and bijay kumar pandey did reflected high class of journalism this neo-writer was quite happy speaking hindi and giving remarks again king birendra and monarch, what was at that time one of the most respected instituion...anyway, my point is he is india's puppet!
hope that helps!
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Amazing
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Posted on 05-15-08 3:50
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Kanchu, good to read your post. He seems little old when you say he was doing Masters in 2001/2, does it mean he completed Masters little late?
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kanchu!
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Posted on 05-15-08 3:55
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Yes he was old at that time. Some govt employeecome to do master's so that to earn the chance of promotion ... he also would have followed same track..do not know if he had succeded in getting promotion..
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 05-15-08 4:06
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कान्छु जी, "कच्चा बैद्यको मात्रा यमपुरिको यात्रा" बुझ्नु हुन्छ होइन? को इन्डियन पपेट हुन वा होइनन समय ले देखाउला नै। सर्बप्रथम त सिचाइ बिभाग होइन सडक बिभाग मा कार्यरत त्रितिय श्रेणिका इन्जिनियर हुन। उनको भाषा कस्तो छ, पढ्नेले बुझेका छन, त्यती नै काफी भएन र ? साहित्यिक रुपमा राम्रो न होला, भाषिक रुपमा ट्रुटी रहित नै मानिन्छ नै। अर्को कुरा अर्बान प्लानिङ मा मास्टर गरेर सडक बिभागमा प्रमोशन हुंदैन, जानी राखे हुन्छ। पढ्नु अथवा माथिल्लो डिग्री हासिल गर्नु प्रमोशनको लागि मात्र हुन्छ भन्ने केही छैन। पूर्बाग्रही अभिब्यक्ती को पनि सीमा हुन्छ। मूलत: तराइ बासी हुन, हिन्दी उनको लागि सजिलो र ग्राह्य भाषा हो नै। तराइ बासी भैकन पनि शुद्ध र स्पष्ट नेपाली बोलाई र लेखाइ को तारिफ किन गर्नु हुन्न?
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kanchu!
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Posted on 05-15-08 4:45
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rahulvai!..sichai bibhag..ho bhanera mainle thokuwa gareko chaina? FYI, rahyo planning ma master garera promotion huncha ki hundaina bhanne kura...timi engg. ra planning ko duni ya bata dherai tadako manche rechau..urban planinng ma ni trasportaton planning and design core component huncha..kunai plannig padeko lai sodhnu!
ra Nijamati Sewa niyemabali ko barema suneko cha wa padeko cha bhane timle yesto bhandainau thiyyu hola..timro "कच्चा बैद्यको मात्रा यमपुरिको यात्रा" ma timi lai nai farkaunchu!
rahyo purbagrah ko kura, timi usle lekheko article ko review hernu, sayad timro ankha kholcha hola..fact kura bhanyo ki purbagrahi hune hoina..usko bhasik sailiprati na mero kunai tippani chaina, usle k bhancha bhanne kura ma matra mero tippani ho....
rahyo indian puppet ko ura, tyo dekhi sakeko cha, " bujenlai srhikhand nabujnelai khurpa ko bid"
astu!
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 05-15-08 4:57
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Nijamati Sewa niyemabali ko barema suneko cha wa padeko cha bhane timle yesto bhandainau thiyyu hola
हाहाहाअ! त्यही निजामती सेवा नियमावली मात्र होइन बढुवा को लागि गणना गरिने मास्टर्स डिग्री को लिस्ट पनि पढेर आउनु एक पटक। कुन कुन बिषय लाई इन्जिनियरिङ्ग सेवा, सिभिल समूह र हाइ वे उपसमुहमा राखिएको छ त्यो पनि बुझ्नु मित्र। यो राहुलभाइ निजामतीको इन्जिनिररिङ्ग सेवा, सिभिल समूह कै पर्यो। अझै च्यालेन्ज गर्नु हुन्छ कि? राजापत्र मा भएको संशोधन समेत हेर्नु। अनी मात्र कुरा गर्नु।
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तिका:
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Posted on 05-15-08 5:07
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Did CK Lal do M.Sc Urban planning in 2001/2002 ? I was there in Pulchowk during 1999/2000. I remember his batch received farewell in my presence. He was chosen to speak in the farewell program representing the graduated students. His 2 years M.Sc. course was extended over 3 or 4 years, so, I assume he was in the campuse since 1997 or late 1996.
By the way, it is impossible to judge on him based on reviews his articles receive because, the reviews are biased too. In my opinion, he is well-read scholar, a good friend of all (I mean he has good quality to be friend with people around him) and amazes peers with his witty remarks. He is a failed engineer in Nepali context, because he was unable to earn as much as his other SadakBhibhag engineers did (don't get it as if he is completely clean). I was surprised to learn he earned more money by doing consulting jobs in NGOs/INGOs etc. than from his engineering career.
At times, he has clearly displayed his inclination toward Congress Party, particularly to Girija faction. I do not believe he receives money from indian embassy or raw or whatever the other sources people like to mention while blaming him and portraying him as anti-nepalese. It is very easy to make such blames, because people just know to say that you get money from King if you say a few words for King. These days nepalese have learnt blaming that way to defame others whom they can't beat by making logical arguments. I know CK lal is the one among very few die-hard patriots from Madhesh.
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kanchu!
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Posted on 05-15-08 5:07
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ye hora tyesaile urban planing ra civil egg ko relation tha bhako hola...ani civil engg ko kun batch ho kan bata padeko? russia bata jasto cha ni...
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chanaa_tarkaari
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Posted on 05-15-08 5:15
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Hey Tika,
Do I know you? I was also in Pulchowk during 99-2000.
कान्छु, थाहा नभएको कुरामा गेस नहानुम मित्र, राहुलभाइ रसिया पढेका होइनन है ।
तिम्रा लेखाइबाट मैले स्पष्ट बुझे, राहुलभाइलाइ यो मामिलामा राम्रो ज्ञान छ, भन्ने तिमीले बुझेनछ ।
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kanchu!
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Posted on 05-15-08 5:22
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timi ra rahul vai ko lekhai ta ustai ustai cha ni...k ho alia ta hoina :-)
aba gyan kati re cha bhanne ta tha pai halen ni..nija mati sewa ma subba ko jagir kha yera " civil engg" ko kura garne...jaba 2000/2001 ko kura mainle gari sakechi yo manche le ni engg nai gareko re cha bhanera ta bujya bhaye hunthyo ni!
rahyo guess ko kura, mainle k bhaneku chu, promotion ko lagi msc urban planning padana aune haru dherai chan...timi madyey ini pani ek hunki bhaneko..mero posting hernu paryo ni mitra...
aba rahulvai, civil engg ko " limit state of design" ko bare ma malai kehi sikai dine ho ki....tapain ko bhasama..mainle yo kaile ni bujina...google and paste nagarnu hola..
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Posted on 05-15-08 5:28
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कान्छु, साझामा नयाँ हो ?
राहुल भाइ र चना तरकारीलाइ alia हो कि भनेर गेस गरेको पढेपछिन कति मान्छे पेट मिचि मिचि हाँस्ने होला, हे हे हे हे हे ।
थाहा नभएको कुरामा गेस नहानुम भनेर मैले भन्या हैन ? ।
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kanchu!
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Posted on 05-15-08 5:34
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yo chain guess nai hanya ho, nepali lekheko dekhera...
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Posted on 05-15-08 6:05
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Hey Amazing bro i think CK Lal is from sirhaha district of Nepal. I used to be a great fan of him while in Nepal. I like the way his analysis to any given topic. I rememeber once he said and i was quite impressed by his thought. देश लाई आहिले आवश्यकता भनेको डाक्टर र ईन्जिनियर हैन, तिनिहरु त जसरी भएनी काठमन्डौ बाहेक बाहिर गएर काम गर्न चाहदैनन। र देशको बिकास भनेको काठमन्डौको मात्रै बिकास गरेर हुँदैन। अहिले हाम्रो स्रमिक हरु माने हतौडा, जावेल चलार कन्सट्रक्स्न मा काम गर्ने मज्दुर हरु बिदेशिनु भनेको देशको लागि ठुलो दुर्भाग्य हो र यस्ले भबिस्यमा हाम्रो लेबर मार्केटमा ठुलो छ्यती पुराउन सक्छ।
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Posted on 05-15-08 6:58
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I agree with Kanchu. Let me add more. CK Lal writes most of his columns for Himal Media which is owned by the Dixits brothers, Kanak Mani and Kunda Mani. These two are notoriously oppportunists especially the former. These two are also supposed be RAW's right-hand men in Nepal. Whereas CK Lal is concerned he is famous for spitting venom at all the other political leaders with the exception of Girija and his dynasty. He would pay his obiesence (spelling?) to them in each of his article. However, you may have already noticed that he has suddenly shifted his loyalty from the Koirala clan and has started appearing more like a neutral person. And, once the Maoists will be in power in no time he will write his articles in favor of the Maoists, and abuse the Koiralas.
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 05-15-08 7:27
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साझामा नयाँ रहेछ, अन्यथा यस्तो कुरा गर्ने थिएन कान्छु भाई ले। मैले सोधेको प्रश्न को उत्तर खै? निजामती सेवा को ध्वाँस दिने मान्छे, निजामती सेवा को नियमावली पढेर आएको खै? मैले अर्बान प्लानिङ मा के पर्छ के पर्दैन भन्न खोजेको होइन। बढुवा को लागि मास्टर डिग्री कुन उपसमूह को लागि कुन कुन बिषयमा गरेको हुनु पर्ने भन्ने बारे स्पष्ट संग तोकिएको छ। जस्तो सडक बिभाग अर्थात हाइ वे उपसमूह मा बढुवा को लागि ग्राह्य हुन हाइ वे वा ट्रान्स्पोर्टेशन इन्जिनियरिङ्ग, वा जिओ टेक वा ब्रिज अन्द स्ट्रक्चरल इन्जिनियरिङ्ग मध्ये कुनै एक मा मास्टर्स गरेको हुनु पर्दछ।
त्यसइ गरी , अरकिटेक्चर उप समूह मा , अर्किटेक्ट वा अर्बान प्लानिङ मा एम एस्सी गरेको हुनु पर्दछ। स्यनिटरी उपसमूह मा बढुवाको लागि इन्भारोमेण्टल इन्जी वा स्यानिटरी इन्जी मा एम एस्सी गरेको हुनु पर्दछ।
अब त बुझ्नु भयो होला नि? सी के लाल ले अर्बान प्लानिङ मा एम एस्सी गरेर कसरी सडक बिभागमा बढुवा खोज्छ? आफुलाई महान विद्वान सम्झने कान्छु । समूह सँग नमिल्ने बिषय पढेर, कसरी बढुव को लागि योग्य हुन्छ। यसबाट तपाईं कतिको पूर्वग्रही हुनु हुन्छ पुष्टी हुँदैन र?
यहाँ को जानकारी को लागि यो राहुलभाइ पनि निजाम्ती सेवा मा अर्थात लोक सेवा पास गरेर जागिरए खाएका इन्जिनियर हुन। लिमिट स्टेट मात्र होइन तपाईंले कहिलेइ न सुनेको जैबिक आतंकबाद समेत मज्जाले पढाई दिन्छ। २००३-४ मा पुल्चोक बाट Environmental Engineering मा एम एस्सी गर्ने विद्यार्थीहरुलाई सोधे हुन्छ, राहुलअभाइ ले पढाएको कस्तो छ र उनमा कतिको बिषयगत ज्ञान छ भनेर। हचुवा भर मा जिस्कने बानी ले आँफै लाई हानी गर्छ नानु। होस् गर्नु।
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