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Posted on 10-21-08 8:47
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साझा डट कम नामको वेव मार्फत फेरी चरित्रहत्याको प्रयास |
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टेक्सास्,अक्टोवर २०/ अमेरिकाको कुनै ठाउँ बाट सन्चालन गरिएको एउटा साझा डट कम नामको वेव ब्लग मार्फत अमेरिकाको टेक्सास राज्ज्यमा पर्ने डालस फोर्ट्वोर्थ सहरका प्रतिष्ठित समाजसेवीहरुको चरित्र हत्या गरिने घ्रिणित प्रयास गरिएको छ । पटक पटक समाजका प्रतिष्ठित ब्यक्तिहरुको, ब्यापार ब्यवसायको तथा महिलाहरुको चरित्र हत्या हुनेगरी नक्कली नाम र नक्कली ईमेल राखेर अत्यन्त गलत कपोल्कल्पित्, झुठा कुराको प्रचार प्रसार हुने वेव संचालक तथा झुठा कुरा पोस्टिङ् गर्नेका विरुद्द आवश्यक कानुनी कार्वाइ गर्न प्रकृया अगाडी बढी सकेको कुरा थाहा भएको छ । दुई दिन अगा डी मा त्र उक्त ब्लगमा टेक्सासको डालस फोर्ट वोर्थ को नेपाली समाजमा अत्यन्त लोकप्रिय समाज सेवि,वासुदेव भण्डारी, महेश नेपाल,गौरी जोशी तथा भुवन आचार्य का बिषयमा गरिएको टिका टिप्पणीले नक्कली छ दम भेसी गलत ब्यक्तिको बिषयमा गम्विर अनुसन्धान हुँदै गरेको थाहा भएको छ । वेव ब्लग संचालकले गलत कुरा पोस्टिङ् गर्नेको सक्कली ईमेल र कम्प्युटरको आइपि एड्ड्रेस अनुसन्धान कर्तालाई उपलव्ध गराउनु पर्ने हुन्छ र त्यस्ता गलत कुराको प्रचार गर्ने तथा प्रकासित गर्न प्रेरित गर्ने दुबै लाई कानुनी कार्वाइ हुने छ । टेक्सास डालस फोर्थवोर्थ नेपाली समाजका पुर्व अध्यक्ष गौरी जोशी जस्ले नेपाली समाजमा अत्यन्त महत्त्वपूर्ण भूमिका खेल्नु भएको छ, त्यस्तै विगत १२ बर्ष देखी नेपाली समाजमा अत्यन्त लोकप्रिय समाजसेवी वासुदेव भण्डारी,विगत १२ बर्ष देखी नेपाली समाजलाई महत्त्वपूर्ण योगदान पुर्žयाउनु भएका महेश नेपाल तथा नेपाली डेमोक्रेटिक फोरुम टेक्सासका अध्यक्ष तथा लोकप्रिय समाज सेवी भुवन आचार्यको चरित्र हत्या हुने गरी झुठा तथा गलत प्रचार गरिएकोले त्यस्ता गलत प्रचारको पछाडि नलाग्न तथा गलत वेव ब्लगको विश्वास नगर्न पनि समाजका सबै सज्जन महानुभाव हरुलाई अनुरोध गरिएको छ । |
Everyone is after saja these days...
Beware guys..
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Maverick
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Posted on 10-21-08 9:25
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"त्यस्ता गलत कुराको प्रचार गर्ने तथा प्रकासित गर्न प्रेरित गर्ने दुबै लाई कानुनी कार्वाइ हुने छ ।" He obviously doesnt know what the hell is taking about. Btw, which post was that? Plz, someone resurrect it.
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Nepali Thita
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Posted on 10-21-08 9:31
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Neither did I... have not seen such post these days??
Anyone who have idea of that post posted here at sajha??
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Posted on 10-21-08 9:40
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I had seen that thread with few comments yesterday morning. I dont know the name of poster but there were both 'for' and 'against' comments.
I have no idea about it but what is the liability of San? Is it 'good' to provide Sajha member's IP address and personal email to anyone unless a legal procedure is on the way? I hope San will help to Dallas guys with due consideration of sajha member's privacy too.
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Posted on 10-21-08 10:19
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It is outrageous how these so called budding news outlets have to rely on sensationalizing every news without even taking the moral responsibility to validate, justify or find credibility in their news.
As it has stood for over 7 years, sajha.com stands for what it is ie. an internet forum where people post and discuss a variety of thing benefitting a lot of people most of the times. As with any internet forum sometimes there will be postings which may be offensive, deceptive, inaccurate or inappropriate.
In order to protect individuals from being defamed using the popularity of sajha.com I keep a lookout for notification of malicious postings that are intended to defame or slander individuals. In most cases I take out the post within 24 to 48 hours, which I think is a pretty good turnaround time.
As far as this issue is concerned, a user had made this posting on Saturday Oct 18th afternoon. I was notified of this yesterday Oct 20th, around 3 pm. In fact the email requested me to reveal the IP address of the poster.
I replied right away saying that I am not at liberty to supply any private information unless requested by a legal entity since sajha.com values user privacy. I supplied the requestor with the ISP information which was Verizon, and wrote to the requestor that I could remove the postings if desired. I didn't hear back but I decided to go ahead and remove the posting anyways around 4 pm since there were many personal allegations in the posting.
This morning I was surprised to see this posting in sajha where this issue has been sensationalized as newsworthy and to discredit the sajha website operator by accusing collaboration with such perpetrators who abuse the freely available resources of sajha to indulge in defaming and malicious activities.
Essentially the viewership of sajha is very low during the weekend, and I had acted upon the request right away. Yet, the news states "पटक पटक समाजका प्रतिष्ठित ब्यक्तिहरुको, ब्यापार ब्यवसायको तथा महिलाहरुको चरित्र हत्या हुनेगरी नक्कली नाम र नक्कली ईमेल राखेर अत्यन्त गलत कपोल्कल्पित्, झुठा कुराको प्रचार प्रसार हुने वेव संचालक तथा झुठा कुरा पोस्टिङ् गर्नेका विरुद्द आवश्यक कानुनी कार्वाइ ..."
If this news agency is committed in bringing credible news to public, then they need to identify and investigate their news before accusing someone of collaborating in unethical behavior. This kind of news only reveals their unprofessional journalistic endeavour and a sheer ignorance of what a public discussion forum is.
I stand by my decision to remove the defamatory posting from sajha, but I will be happy to post it in a completely public unmoderated forum like soc.culture.nepal which is a completely unmoderated discussion group in the internet, in case there is a formal investigation since sajha visitors deserve to know the details behind this allegation by a news media.
As we all know there are many other unmoderated websites where postings cannot be removed, and someone with malicious intent can very well go to these sites and post such defamatory postings. It is unfortunate that this issue was actually deemed newsworthy and a means to question my personal credibility when I have had shown good intention by deleting the post within an hour of notification.
Anyways the saga continues. We're live here in sajha.
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Posted on 10-21-08 10:33
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San bro, if AmericaDarpan is an entity registered here in the US, I'd defn look for ways to sue them for defamation. I'm still amazed at some of these FOBs who still fail to understand that the posters here on sajha input THEIR view on the threads and NOT that of this website or its administrator!! As always, a typical Nepali mentality when one seems to do well, there'll be the conspirators trying to bring the brotha down...I assume AmericaDarpan has fianlly received its 15 minutes of fame (which is exactly what they wanted from the Diaspora here) and now I believe, its time to make them face the consequences!!
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Posted on 10-21-08 10:43
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Hi San and Sajha friends, dont worry yar
'हाथी चले बाजार, कुत्ते भुके हजार........'East or West Sajha is the best :-)
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Nepali Thita
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Posted on 10-21-08 10:45
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Sounds good Samsara...
San Bro,
Sajha is of great help to me and many of my friends and we wish sajha to be functioning as it is. I dont brouse sajha on weekend and was surprised to read the post in americadarpan thinking when such posting was there?
Just trying to know what actually happenned.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Posted on 10-21-08 11:20
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"अमेरिकाको कुनै ठाउँ बाट सन्चालन गरिएको एउटा साझा डट कम नामको वेव ब्लग मार्फत अमेरिकाको टेक्सास राज्ज्यमा पर्ने डालस फोर्ट्वोर्थ सहरका प्रतिष्ठित समाजसेवीहरुको चरित्र हत्या गरिने घ्रिणित प्रयास गरिएको छ " ha ha ha Web Blog bhanya ke ho ? Kasai ko bichar dharana ho. Kasai samaj saywee ko charitra hatya garney ghrinit prayas gariyay ko cha rey ? ha ha ha First of all EVEN THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ARE NOT IMMUNE FROM THIS(protection from 1st Amendment) WHO THE HELL ARE THESE PEOPLE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. I AM A FIRM BELIEVER OF PROTECTION OF OTHER PEOPLE'S PRIVACY(unless you try and use this platform to further your own benefit by revealing yourself like Nepe, Parminderr etc etc). But at the same time you cannot hold Sajha responsible for Khattey gadhas who come here and post whatever they want. As San said HE WILL DELETE POSTS THAT ARE OFFENSIVE WITHIN 24 TO 48 HRS. END OF STORY.
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Posted on 10-21-08 11:23
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Seemes many had missed Samsara? Folks he is back.
Amazing, I like the Proverb. it hit the bull's eye.
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Posted on 10-21-08 11:24
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San Bro ..
As Amazing bro says : East or west .. sajha is the best .. American Darpan .. you suck ..you suck big time .. That was the worse reaction I ever see for a post that is deleted now.. You dont know what is the legal ways and you are doing what the original poster did. Trying to defame Sajha ...threatening Sajha and its users. Try not to do that .. Better not to do that ..
the saga continues. We're live here in sajha.
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Posted on 10-21-08 11:35
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I am also curious about the content that was deleted. Were the allegations true? Is that why they are making a big issue out of it? America darpan is run from Texas and the alleged people are successful businessmen from texas who may or are advertising in americadarpan. It's possible they are making a big issue out of it.
The original poster should post it in some non nepali blog and provide link in sajha. If what he said is true then everyone needs to read it.
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Posted on 10-21-08 11:45
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I think one of those threads was started by Mr BIMAL KHATTEY THAPA USA. I remember him posting about some dude who owns multiple gas stations in TX( I did go postal on this idiot for invading other people's privacy). If at all go after this Moron. Tyo charitra hatya garney yehiii gadha ho. ha ha ha They they should go after him and not sajha. ha ha ha
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Posted on 10-21-08 1:13
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सान ब्रो, तर पनि मेरो बीचार म तपाईंले कानुनी सल्लाह चै लीनु पर्छ एस बीसयमा। एदी त्यस्तो कुनै प्रबधान रहेछ भने। नत्र एस्तो इस्सुएस हरु त निकी रहन्छ। कीनकी कोही बेक्ती आफुलाई समाजसेवी घोसणा गर्छ भने उस्ले पुषटी पनि गर्न सक्नु पर्छ र एदी गल्ती गरेको हैन भने खन्डन गर्ने प्रमाण पनि। अचम्म लाग्दो कुर अमेरीका दर्पन लाई किन दशै आयो फेरी? र पनि एदी तपाईं हरु सँग कुनै प्रमाण छैन भने नीजी जीवन बाची रहेका हरुको अस्ली नाम चै एत्तिकै मुछी हल्नु चै हुँदैन है। अब म जस्तो साझा सेलेब्रिटी को पछी लाग्नु भनेको फरक कुरा। कि कसो?
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Posted on 10-21-08 2:03
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I think I remember reading that posting posted by NST-subhachintak. it was that day when I cant open sajha and open through gbnc website. But isn't that clear in the disclaimer of this website that the threads posted here are not the admin's views. At least for me, that America Darpan's article is funny. Amazing le bhaya jati ho k.
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Posted on 10-21-08 8:38
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As a resident of Dallas, I am familiar with the names that were mentioned by NST Suvachintak in his/her defamatory thread and its mindboggling to come across these overtly biased views. I am ambiguous about the gender of the thread originator because it is set as female in the profile but I doubt very strongly that the person is a female. If the person is a male, I find this act of hiding and intention to mislead very cowardly. Nepali Community in Dallas is a community of roughly 15000 people with the number rising everyday. Among them around 1500 participate in public events and the rest choose to stay as numbers. The names that were mentioned belong to good Samaritans of Dallas who, despite our backbiting nature inherent in our community, set to lead the pack for the common good. They chose to perform leadership roles in our community without aligning themselves with a certain coterie and they still pursue that legacy for which they deserve accolades not these e-thrashes. In Nepali Community, it is not hard to know one another and come across at times because most of us frequent the same locations. When someone vilifies us, we take it very seriously no matter it be a hearsay or in a web forum because we are a closely knit circle. So much so since it is in a thriving forum like Sajha Kurakani, it is taken very seriously due to its popularity and wide range of viewers from gramps to toddlers. However, only the victim can feel the intensity and aggravation of the scorn. And this kind of harm once done is done. It’s irreversible. That’s why I would like to see the culprit punished. Here the culprit is NSTSuvachintak who lost his manhood, disguised under a woman’s profile and hurled stones at real men who believed in themselves and championed the common cause. It’s not the fault of Sajha.com neither that of Americadarpan.com. The latter is headquartered in Dallas so it might have, out of urgency, condemned the cowardly act to secure the dignity of its reputable residents. Instead of playing the blame-game, we have to examine both perspectives and listen to each other. Most importantly, we should not harbor or if you will, encourage these wrongdoers and culprits who spread gangrene in our society. San reserves the right not to release private information to third party unless it is a legal entity. His values and efforts are praiseworthy. Nonetheless, sometimes Junge’s Law works wonders especially in our community. If NSTSuvachintak’s ass is dragged out of his bunker and flogged publicly in Irving Mall Parking Lot and everything broadcast live via Sajha.com on Pay-Per-View, we would not see another one very soon very often. It's solely my personal opinion and you are free to disagree with me. But please don't just disagree without even disagreeing on matters. Thank you.
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Posted on 10-21-08 9:27
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Kura thikai ho,yaha beijati ko kura bhayekai ho.Blog or forum bhandaima jasle j payo tehi lekhnako laagi platform ta hunu bhayena ani kasle lekhyo ,k lekhyo tesko responsibility kasaile ta linu paro ni yedi kasailai yesle hani garcha bhane bichar ta garnu parcha. Tara yo sue ,sue garne news ma chai kehi dum chaina daraunu pardaina bhaate haru, thagne belama thage , Ajahi pratisthit samajsewi re la aafaile aafailai, k garda raichan tiniharu hamlai ta thahachaina.AAfai mapai pani bhanne ani dadagiri ,sue garne bhanera tharkauna khojne ,bhaate haru!!
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Posted on 10-22-08 5:15
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Hahaha nepali ko tal gazab chha.. 'samajsewa' garne ustai.. 'charitra hatya' garne pani ustai, ani tyeko pani birodh ma uuhi site ma post garera halla macchaune pani ustai.. see and forget.. Anyway this suvachintak seems to know a lot about people..
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Posted on 10-22-08 5:46
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Jhilke daa ma ni hajurko support maa la
East or West Sajha is the best
tara jhilke daa 'हाथी चले बाजार, कुत्ते भुके हजार........' yo bhaneko ke ho taaaaaaaaa
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Posted on 10-22-08 6:27
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As i read the posting i feel like NST subhachintak has expressed his views as the response of the of the email which bothered him appearing in his inbox several times .( If i'm not wrong). This is merely his personal evaluation. I don't know anything about the persons described here. If somebody doesn't agree with his views they are free to falsify it, right? As a Sajha web subhachintak I would be clearer if so called journalism of America Darpan could clearify the persons described here are Samajsebak rather than blaming on SAJHA.
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