This question has been raised here many times...

What do you achieve by "flagging" any voice against terrorism?  Create 15 user accounts, flag the posting, kill the voice!  Is this sajha?

Please don't make an issue here with my typos.  My smartphone is not as smart as you guys.

Excuse my uncouthness, but don't you think there is a difference between a 'voice' and a 'rant'?

Nagarik report

I have tried to reason with you but it seems like your hatred has blinded you. Your accusations against sajha is getting out of hand. Sajha does not need to create 15 users to flag your posting, if sajha feels you are not respectful of sajha goals and policies, it can ban you without any questions or comments.

In fact since normal mode of communication is seemingly not working with you, I think it is better to wish you better luck at some other forum where you will not feel restricted to hurl insults at respectful communication just because it does not agree with you.

Good luck and feel free to stick around without being able to spew your hatred, intolerance and disrespect here.

nagarikreport,

I think now the problem in Sajha is not an ideological thoughts but the individualism. People come here and start shouting like in their personal sense. People are thinking Sajha as a personal blog. If you didn't like the voice in Sajha, start a personal blog where you can write whatever you want and there will be a same kind of listener. I think banning the voice in Sajha or somewhere elese is completely injustifable but what if every day a guy on Sajha come and write whatever he wants. He will start saying I am nagarikreport, nagarikreport, nagarikreport, nagarikreport, nagarikreport for the whole thread in Sajha or somewhat other name timer, timer, timer, timer, I am timer, I am timer, I support this, I want to kill this and I want to do that. Please do what you want to do but it is a common forum. I haven't seen San banning anyone for a long time but the way now people in Sajha arguing, they are trying to involve San more. I am always against using foul word and graphic violence because it is for the common people, at least we are still recommending Sajha to everyone. I have seen a lot of threads about Maoist when they are treated as terrorist and they are in Red corner notice. You can see the picture of Maoist even when they are underground and completely treated as terrorist. Now they are in open politics and people had right to say favor and against them. My point is you are not disliked because you are against any Maoism and terrorism, please review my post, I always said I hate the word communist and Moist or any ism but Nepal is different than me. Nepali is different than us who are in Sajha. Please respect them who are there in Nepal.

So, I also request San not to ban anyone unless and until it is very very hard to digest but guys, our common interest is help Nepali and properous Nation, not even fight in Sajha without any logic.

I used Sajha back in 2006 for 4-5 postings. I don't remember the username. So, I had to register for new ID just to comment in this matter.  We are seeing new/old users showing up just to comment so why shouldn't I join this interesting discussion.

I think San Pradhan is making some silly decisions.  I know many of Sajha users here, including Nagarik, Makale etc.  (check out  Nagarik's legal section) San is creating a problem for himself by defending (or supporting) BRB/Maoism/"ism".  San is forgetting that operating an enterprise in US comes with liability. Users will most likley not be liable.  I would suggest San to have an attorney for Sajha.  San is of course not aware who the users are.  Some could be very powerful people and some could be our friendly convenient gas station workers.

Most people probably are assuming that Maoists are not radar and so are not the supporters.  It's wrong to assume this.  From my understanding, people are lobbying so that Maoists could be brought to books.  The only issue that the ICC is facing is how to assume "jurisdiction" (don't what to give a lecture here on this) which can be done in many ways.  Maoists are assuming they are safe because Nepal is not a party.  But Baburam should know that this barrier does not preclude ICC from assuming jurisdiction. 

Maoists collapse is very predictable. 

San bro, did you notice why your website is being accessed from nation's finest law schools a lot more these days? 

After observing the recent discussions here lately, i decided to jot down some thoughts. Sajha is a junction for all the Nepalese who are away from the motherland and it has proven to be very essential in terms of sharing suggestions, informations and thoughts. If anybody tries to spread any form of hatred against any race,gender,religion, political party & principles, i cant think of a reason why he/she should not be banned. We have differences and we will continue to have the differences and it is not acceptable to bring the personal issues and start cursing all the folks and their families just because they dont agree with what he/she belives. Why are we acting so insane and dumb? What are you gonna get cursing a group of people from the library of your campus or from your apartment? You live in a free country so go ahead and try to bring that issue in the media.
 I dont think users like makalekancha,nagarikreport,collgerocks gonna accomplish anything by labelling and cursing the fellow users in sajha. 
I fully support what San Dai has done to keep this site healthy.

Call me biased but the issue that some of the users here are raising is not political or personal.  I agree with Nagarik's posting that this issue is about justice.  I don't see anything wrong if killers are prosecuted. 

The victims feel that the criminals must be prosecuted. It is their view and we as a civilized society should not allow criminals to walk free.

I know that debates have no end but right is right and wrong is wrong.  You want criminals to be procecuted; does that make a you a hate group?  Why shouldn't the criminals be punished?  Why should the world forget Maoist killings?  San needs to offer a reason for this.  The more explanation he offers, the more users he kicks out, the more he self incriminates.

Pissing off Nagarik is stepping on a dog's tail.  Very nice guy but he has zero tolerance (has bitten me many times).  He recently dragged 7 corporations to the court and thundered for stepping on his tail.   It's his job and he wouln't mind dragging more to where they belong.  Makale is a poor guy; I have sympathy for him.  Poor guy shouldn't have been banned.  He has already lost so much.

I'm not praising or hating anyone here, I am just stating the facts.   Watch out what you say or do on the internet.   You would be tired of defending if you get into a litigation here.  Don't give anyone an opportunity to do this.  It's a friendly suggestion, take it whatever the way you want.

FYI, the lobbyists are also watching out other websites, organization and groups.  Sajha is not the only one.

I don't want to share anything more than this.  Bujhne le bujchha, nabujhne lai maile ke bhanu?

Forgot to mention, I miss NAS.  The charm of Sajha.  He shouldn't have been banned either.  Did he also demand criminal action against the Maoists?

"Pissing off Nagarik is stepping on a dog's tail.  Very nice guy but he has zero tolerance (has bitten me many times)"
 kantipurngari ji, maile nagarikreport ji lai k hi bhane ki? maile uha ko bite, or in your own words ("kukur ko tokai") bata bachna k k garnu parla? malai rabies ta sardaina hai? 
Ani tapailai nagarikreport le tokda k k symptoms aayeko thiyo, sabai list banayera rakhidinu hola, i will watch out.
Sincerely.

dissident

ke garne kutna sakdaina yo desh ma.  thulo dai jasto chha. peeda saher base.

@ San dai well done...

Another friendly advise to San-

Don't get carried away with the support for your action/inaction against users/policies.  These supporters will not come and save you if you get into trouble (hope you never get into one).

@kantipurnagari I don't know where in the hell you get these ideas. I am new to sajha as an active member but have been reading it for few years. This is a private site and he can do whatever he likes. I am not one of the maobadi supporter, rather I denounce them and would like them to be brought to justice. But, the problem here is many users are doing the same thing as maobadi did or atleast praying the same thing on others. People would achieve much more if they bring out more about what they did in the past and what they are still doing. I am happy that some of them( not all of them) got banned because they were turning people with maobadi rather than turning them against. I don't have to do anything with any of the political parties but I hate maobadi because I have seen how they have worked. They have slaughtered many citizens for the sake of the power and thats the only thing that comes into my mind when I hear their name. Open threads in sajha protesting their propoganda and tell everyone about the cruel crimes they committed but do it in a respectable manner. I hope those users learn something do their research and comeback to make a difference. 
Jai Nepal

PaulinaDidi
It's easy to come up with a quotation to suit one's rhetorics. And it is difficult for some people to understand the difference between political bias and co-ordial discussion.

Have you read my comments on this thread - http://sajha.com/sajha/html/index.cfm?threadid=93708#838655

Sajha has never supported any political party and it never will. If sajha supports anything about politics it is the individual actions that empower Nepal and Nepalis. Sajha never supports anything that causes pain, suffering and killing of human beings. Sajha's main goal is respectful discussions period and it seems like some people are simply unable to understand that.

Sajha is about respectful discussion. Respect as in tolerance for other ideas and NOT resorting to name calling. Using offensive baseless acusations to others not agreeing with you only kills the spirit of discussion, and is not acceptable in sajha in big doses.

Makalekancha was outright disrespectful with foul language. Nagarikreport repeatedly accused everyone of being terrorists including sajha which is only providing this platform of discussion. If we are to follow their logic, then all of Nepal would be a terrorist state now that the PM is a Maoist. Any newspaper publishing article about the PM would be a terrorist newspaper. Even all the TV would be terrorist TV... 

You get my drift? .. .. I am sorry but sajha does not support that kind of unreasonable and illogical discussion that is intolerant of others. Sajha is here to help out other Nepalis by using it's combined knowledge; and such unreasonable, illogical and disrespectful discussions only serve to alienate users from participating in sajha.

Lastly, sajha is all about respect, respect and respect. See, you are discussing in a coordial manner without accusing anyone of being a terrorist or calling other names and I don't have anything against that.

If you are not aware of sajha goals please refer to about us page and your registration email. 
http://sajha.com/sajha/html/about.cfm

Before you start typing your response, remember again. Sajha is all about respect, respect and respect. It does not support any political parties. You are free to discuss anything as long as you show respect towards others who don't agree with you.

San, You cannot please everybody in this world. I fully support your action. 

 Mr San,

I fully agree with Paulinadidi. I have a question to you San, so you ban all the users who opposes Maoism/maoist killing of our Nepalese brother and sisters and for you that is hatred but all those Maoist supporters who are using the same launguage are not.?

I also don't support the hatred and name calling or using foul language but in the name of that silencing one side is totally wrong. This is a free country and there is freedom of speech here but I know for this site you are the boss and you can ban any body and every body who or not on your side.

I think in this post Nagarikreport has not used any foul language only thing he wrote was he is not happy with flagging terrorism. I think every body who lives in US or any other place should oppose terrorism and terrorist.. Maoist is still considered Terrorist Group by US govt. and opposing terrorist group should be supported not falgged. As I said on my other posting I am ready to support the Maoist as a Political Party only after they get rid of weapon, disband there YCL organisation and the culprits of killing innocent Nepalese Brother and Siters are brought to Justice.

Peace.

San wrote:
"Makalekancha was outright disrespectful with foul language. Nagarikreport repeatedly accused everyone of being terrorists including sajha which is only providing this platform of discussion. If we are to follow their logic, then all of Nepal would be a terrorist state now that the PM is a Maoist. Any newspaper publishing article about the PM would be a terrorist newspaper. Even all the TV would be terrorist TV... "

Why is it so, so, so terribly hard for some people to understand this simple, crystal-clear fact? Those nicks were not banned for their opinions, rather for their utterly distasteful approach to debate, and their sheer, loathsome contempt for those opposing their views. In addition to what San has accused Makalekancha of, the latter also relentlessly engaged in cursing death upon others' families.

And mind you, those were not occasional outbursts -- both of them indulged in such flagrant offenses REPEATEDLY even after numerous attempts by others (including San) to reason with them, turning Sajha into a virtual पागल खाना!

यति सरल र संग्लो पानी झैं छर्लंग तथ्य पनि साँचिकै नबुझ्नु भा' हो कि बुझपचाउनु भा' हो?

paulinadidi, kantipurnagari, rahulvai (अर्को थ्रेडमा यही issue उठाउनु भएकोले), and others who feel as they do,

हामीलाई एउटा -- हजुर, सिरफ एउटा मात्र  -- उदाहरण दिनुहोस, जसमा एक कट्टर माओबादीका बिरोधी, तर आफ्नो प्रतिपक्षीहरुसंग कदरका साथ बहस गर्नु हुन्थ्यो, र वहाँलाई साझाले banned  गरिदियो. मैले जाने, बुझे अनुसार गत केहि हप्तामा makalekancha, nagarikreport र nas बाहेक अरुलाई banned गरिएको छैन पनि.

तपाइंहरु नै साक्षी हुनु हुन्छ -- माओबादीको विरुद्ध कडा बहस गर्नुहुन्छ, यद्धपी आफ्नो प्रतिपक्षीहरु प्रति श्रद्धा र कदरको भावना राख्नु हुन्छ -- banned हुनु भएको छ त?

This is far from being Maoist supporter vs Maoist non supporter issue. I don't belive sajha has been unfair in the way the admins have banned the unwanted filth that spreads it's pungent smell around by trying to impose their will onto others. Yes, I don't agree with maoist agenda and thier ways but then to come here and try to illogically argue that sajha admins are in cohoots with maoists and spreading their propoganda is far from the truth. If people try to be illogical and run amok just cause they hide behind a screen name and try to impose their view without any rationale then i say go ahead and banned these douche bags whether their point of view are as same as mine or not.

San has been as clear cut about his reasoning as one can be, yet some blind pricks out here don't want to view it the same way just cause they don't want to understand it. As poonte stated maybe some of you don't understand it or  just don't want to understand it on purpose.