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Shantipriya
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Posted on 11-10-11 7:41
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I do not see supporters of Baburam peeping in sajha these days. Surprisingly, mysansar wrote against the baburam this time, seems that guy is leaning right while some hardcore terrorist's fan are still supporting Baburam.. Come on you cowards come here and say in favor of Baburam's decision of expanding cabinet, giving amenesty to murderer dhungel..and so on??? where are you these days?? Oh yeah you must be enjoying what captalists nation USA has provided to you ? NO? buncha hypocrites..!
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Posted on 11-10-11 7:42
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just out of curiosity!!! who do u support ???
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Shantipriya
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Posted on 11-10-11 8:00
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Alece
I hate terrorists and I support those who hate terrorists.
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Posted on 11-10-11 8:02
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we live in a world full of hate :p
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alece
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Posted on 11-10-11 8:05
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i would love to hear your views on one good candidate for the country for present moment :d
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Shantipriya
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Posted on 11-10-11 8:11
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I hear you and got what you are trying to say. Be explicit -can you? You will get good candidate only when you should follow a practice of getting rid of bad one- like terrorist Maoists. If bad apples continue to occupy and suppress the good one- then question like yours will continue to come up! First, lets establish rule of law and create environment where people can fearlessly vote, exercise their fundamental rights and freely express view point. If your only option is Dr. Bhattrai -I am sure you are disappointed person now!
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Posted on 11-10-11 8:20
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Here, I am (or I should say "was") a supporter of Baburam and his good actions. I've been called terrorist in the past for saying that and I don't care because people who call me maoist or terrorist, Baburam's chamcha, etc are nothing but bunch of $hitheads who need to grow up. I can see a few threads asking for maoist/Baburam supporters to come up and write. But I don't think they are going to show up (if there are any). What Baburam was doing when he started as PM was good - visible changes in short time. But now, it's evident that he's no different than any other PM we had in the past, in fact he's much worse. Dhungel, I believe, doesn't deserve imprisonment for life and seizure of property, that dikhead should be hanged till death and same should be doe to other maoists who have slayed thousands of Nepali during civil war. I hope Shrestha's famiy will get justice and so will the rest who have lost their dear ones because of maoists. I want to see the Supreme Court acting in favor of Shrestha's family and denounce the cabinet's decision to appeal to waive Dhungel's punishment. If the Court fails to do so and the appeal reaches to the President, he better respect the Court's original decision regarding Dhungel.
Now, some of you might call me a hypocrite for supporting Baburam few weeks ago and speaking againt him and maoists now. Well, all I can do is show you my middle finger and tell you to mind your own damn business. I can support anyone who does good things and hate anyone who does bad, doesn't matter what political party/group he or she belongs to. And you've no right to affiliate me with any political party.
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Posted on 11-10-11 8:44
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i support those who do good work may it be king ...paras .. or baburam or even george bush and criticize if any of the leader fail to do according to what they say and don't do what they are supposed to be doing being at the top level position. unlike you, who likes to mock at other people who believed baburam could be a change and he failed to live up to his promise!!! and m in same position with jantare!! i did supported him but not maybe anymore!!! so what u want me be shameful for actually believing him that he could be a change to our country ??? u see me as a disappointed person ..u bet !! i am... and i see you as a troll full of hatred.... just wondering what do u think of Obama... do you label him as terrorist too since he is waging two wars ???
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Posted on 11-10-11 8:50
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@ihateamerica: i dont get it!!! didnt maoist won by majority???!!! so more than 50 percent of all should be held responsible for voting a terrorist and making the biggest political party in the country!!! well i didn't suffer from maiost movement at that time but my whole place suffered from armies though!!! and i have frens from dang who told me abt the incidents by armies and police!! yeah bad things happened from both sides!! and i do feel empathy for both sides!!! so what if i ask you then if your dad was taken by armies by accusing him as spy and labeling him as maoist and was tortured to death ? will you side with maoist ??? or will u still support the army!??? m not taking side of anybody!!! u might suffered from maoist and u know the pain better than me but then again!! but again it was war between our own brothers!!!! the maoist brutality peaked after shere dismissed the parliament and announced "sankatkal"... did anyone protested at that time ??? and m surprised at the time of revolution i barely saw people from the ktm or lalitpur ...all from village... so bro feri tehi bhanchu!!! m not supporting his killing!!! i didn't voted him to be on top... i didn't even went to the revolution time while my friends were having fun hitting bricks to police.... i just supported him coz u cant look back all the time and have the same hatred feeling... since they have come out of jungle ...i dont want them to go back and create more bloodshed... and yeah obviously call me fool for believing he was the last hope of the country!! someone said it right!! "even if there was god he wont be alive to see progress in nepal." i would say Mohammed was terrorist too then!! !killed 10000 of people in Mecca and started islam!!! funny people don't see that side do they ??/ peace man!!!!
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Posted on 11-10-11 10:12
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I Stiil Think BRB is better PM of NEpal but this does not mean what he did are not all good. I do not believe in blind faith. Being a follower is worst idea. So, it is better to think which is good and which is bad issuewise. I hate if you like one action of Baburam, HE is great and otherday if you do not like other action , then he is worst . You will never find perfect man ? You do not (can not) need to agree with your friend all the time.
In reality, i do not think Nepali PM is not so powerful post as we think. We think PM as executive chief of of nation but present system of Nepal does not give authority to choose his team too. PM is not more powerful than CEO of company ? Our expectation is too high , We want to to get result too soon, noone has patience to stay and wait on line .... Nepali culture.
If you evaluate whole person with one action, i believe in current political system of Nepal, You you need to elect PM every week.
I you think about the development of Nepal ahead, He is still the best among all leaders. And could you imagine what would be the situation of NEpal if BRB was not there(maoist) to divert moist party to this condition. Do you Know the role of BRB to change Terrosist Maoist party towards Political party ? But do not expect detachment of BRB with Maobadi. His earlier detachment with Maoist party would be worst for Nepal also. Only He can change maobadi to Bikasbadi.
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Posted on 11-10-11 10:19
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What maoist were doing was WRONG. Nepal had democracy and people chose the system of governance just like a decades ago. They had evey opportunity to become a political party and start reform but bcoz of their inability, they chose to create fear. They killed thousands in a peaceful country for their political gain. They brought arms into the society and started killing innocent civillians who were against them. More than half of the maoist had no idea about politics, they were just trying to get out of poverty. They took advantage of poor people and sent them to the front to die. After peace treaty also they keep on violating human rights. Its amazing how people forgot the video of prachanda where he is talking about creqting fear on other parties. Their list of unjust keeps on growing. Now people think that People who hate maoist are full of hatred. You guys think that there ain't any one better than maoist????? I would rather go for corrupt than a murderer
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Posted on 11-10-11 10:33
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Jantarei bro, shaayad maile pani kehi bhaneko thiye hola ris ko jhok ma....but whatever u wrote, I agree. The only difference between you and me is that you thought something positive might come out from Baburam but in my case, I did not believe him and thought he is no different than other terrorists. Additionally, I thought he was even worse, coz he is educated and he can fool innocent people easily. Baagh ko chhala lagayeko syaaal ho Baburam bhaneko. Naatak hera na tesko, Mustang gadi re, Economy class ma bidesh bhraman re...etc etc...but see, giving an average of 8 lakhs for each one who are responsible of killing 15000 people??????? Baburam was the one who used to bark that the parliament is so hugr during madhav Nepal and Jhala Nath's terms but look at this bastard's now.....Mps are all either corrupt or killers or affiliated with some crimes......K bhanne khoi??? Ajhai baburam ra maobadi ko kura sunne manchhe tannai chhan, achamma lagchha!!!!!! Lau Sabai Nepali ko jaya hos.....
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Posted on 11-10-11 11:10
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I agree jantare ; i was supporter of Baburam and will praise everyone who will do good things. but right now i am hating him for that two cause.
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Gaitumba
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Posted on 11-10-11 11:41
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Jantarei bro , Dherai khusi lagyo yar timro comment pader.
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Posted on 11-11-11 12:22
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I agree army might have killed nepelese. But you have to know those killings would have never taken place have maoist not started the war.
And maoist war has not been justified. They have not adressed even 2 out of 40 points for which they started the war even when they are in government. Most of those points were related to india . Did Baburam raised all those issues when he went to india. NO. .............................. That means all those wars, all those killings were just a show. Those killings were never justified.
Most of the baburam's work has been just for a cheap popularity. Mustang, economy class , radio programme blah blah.....................
Don't forget nepal dont have a natioinal dress now, the cabinet of minister is largest in baburams tenure, freeing the killers, his wife giving indian security personnel authority to move around TIA, baburam distributing 10 lakhs to maoist family killed but none to Army personnel who got killed.
Coming back to dhungel, there are numerous army who are serving jail term for similar offence. Why shouldn't they be released then? Is the law only for non maoist?
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Posted on 11-11-11 9:41
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http://www.advocacyforum.org/fir/2011/10/ujjan-kumar-shrestha.php
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Posted on 11-11-11 10:42
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Every one who is in Western World can't support communism, even a communist leader come to western world, he will be influenced by their development, democracy and all the good things, certainly there also some bad things. Any way what Shantipriya didn't understand is Nepal is not western world where we are the richest countries of the world. If Nepal was really rich, no one can sell dreams in the name of communism and Nepali won't be fooled but we are the poorest country of the world and we will be fooled by everyone. Even Nepali congress socialism in not white capitalism, my point is do not bark here in USA. No one here had supported Maoist or had fought war but Nepali is Nepali and those who came here in USA, become US citizen and bark here has no meaning. If you want to change Nepal, go and fight there to the terrorist. Stop embarrassing people blaming terrorist and Maoist, no one is here but the thing is any light hope in Nepal will make Nepali happy in every part of the world; it might be Dr. Baburam or Mr. Congress or Mr. UML.
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प्रधानमन्त्रीको जंगी शासन
प्रधानमन्त्री बाबुराम भट्टराईले दैलेखका पत्रकार डेकेन्द्रराज थापाका हत्याराहरूविरुद्ध मुद्दा नचलाउन लिखित निर्देशन दिन लगाएर आफू कसैको आवाज नसुनी स्वेच्छाचारी ढंगले अगाडि बढ्ने स्पष्ट सन्देश दिएका छन् । थापा हत्याकाण्डका अभियुक्तहरूमाथि कारबाही हुनुपर्ने मागसहित समग्र पत्रकारिता जगत् आन्दोलित छ । दैलेखमा पीडित पक्ष दिनहुँ प्रदर्शन गर्दैछ । संयुक्त राष्ट्रसंघलगायत अन्तर्राष्ट्रिय समुदायले नेपाली पत्रकारहरूको जीवनरक्षाका लागि अपिल गरेका छन् । यस्तो अवस्थामा प्रधानमन्त्रीले कहींकतै केही नभएझैं गरी जनमतको सदैव ख्याल गरिने लोकतान्त्रिक मान्यताको धज्जी उडाउँदै शुक्रबार महान्यायाधिवक्ता कार्यालयमार्फत उक्त मुद्दा नचलाउन जसरी उर्दी जारी गरेका छन्, त्यसले सरकार प्रमुखकै हर्कतबाट मुलुक गम्भीर कानुनी अराजकतातर्फ धकेलिने जोखिम बढाएको छ । पत्रकारको जीवनरक्षाप्रति रत्तिभर संवेदनशील नदेखिएका प्रधानमन्त्रीको शैलीले नेपाली प्रेस स्वतन्त्रता पुनः अधिनायकवादी भीरको डिलमा पुगेको आभास हुन्छ । विडम्बना के भएको छ भने सम्बन्धित अभियुक्तचाहिँ पत्रकार थापालाई यातना दिएर ज्युँदै गाडेकामा अपराधबोध गर्दै सजाय भोग्न र प्रायश्चित गर्न चाहेको बताइरहेका छन्, प्रधानमन्त्री भने उनीहरूमाथि कारबाही नचलाउन ठाडो आदेश दिँदैछन् । यसले फौजदारी न्यायको सिद्धान्तलाई पनि ठाडै चुनौती दिएको छ । पहुँच नहुनेमाथि कानुन लाग्ने, हुनेले उन्मुक्ति पाउने/दिइने नजिर न्याय प्रणालीकै निम्ति आत्मघाती हुनेछ । यस किसिमको चरम राजनीतिक हस्तक्षेप हुन्छ भने प्रहरीले कुनै अपराधको स्वतन्त्र अनुसन्धान किन गर्ने ? सरकारी वकिलले अभियुक्तमाथि मुद्दा दायर गर्ने झन्झट किन उठाइरहने ? थापा हत्याकाण्डको प्रहरी अनुसन्धान नसकिँदै, माओवादी कार्यकर्तामाथि मुद्दा दायर नगर्न सरकारी वकिललाई निर्देशन दिने प्रधानमन्त्रीको पछिल्लो व्यवहारले प्रहरी र प्रशासनिक संयन्त्रको मनोबल नराम्रोसँग खस्काएको छ ।
पीडित पक्षको उजुरीपछि उक्त हत्याको अनुसन्धान किन नगरेको भनेर सुर्खेत पुनरावेदन अदालतले कारण देखाउ आदेश दिएपछि यो मुद्दाको पुनः अनुसन्धान सुरु भएको थियो । त्यसलाई बीचैमा रोक्ने सरकारी कदमले अदालतसमेतको अपहेलना गरेको छ । प्रधानमन्त्री भट्टराईले सत्य निरूपण तथा मेलमिलाप आयोग नभएका कारण मुद्दा चलाउन नमिल्ने जिकिर गरेका छन् । जबकि पत्रकार थापाको हत्या द्वन्द्वकालीन भिडन्त वा राजनीतिक कारणबाट भएको घटना पनि होइन । त्यो हत्या पार्टी नीतिविपरीत भएको भन्दै माओवादी नेतृत्वले उसबेलै क्षमा मागेको थियो । अहिले आएर त्यसलाई राजनीतिक लेपन लगाउन कसरी मिल्छ ?
जहाँसम्म सत्य निरूपण आयोगको कुरा छ, यस्ता संक्रमणकालीन न्याय संयन्त्रहरू नबन्दासम्म प्रचलित कानुनअनुसारै कारबाही हुने/गरिने विश्वव्यापी प्रचलन हो । माओवादीका पूर्वसभासद बालकृष्ण ढुंगेलमाथि लागेको यस्तै मुद्दाको फैसला गर्ने क्रममा सर्वोच्च अदालतले पनि त्यस्तो आयोग नबन्दासम्म प्रचलित ऐनअनुसारै कारबाही हुने स्पष्ट फैसला सुनाइसकेको छ । यस्तो अवस्थामा कि प्रधानमन्त्रीले भन्नुपर्यो- मुलुकको न्यायपालिका नै मान्दिनँ, होइन भने पत्रकार मार्ने अपराधीलाई कारबाही गर्ने बाटो खुला गर्नुपर्यो । संविधानसभा विघटन गर्ने, नयाँ निर्वाचन गर्न नसक्ने, चुनाव गर्न भइसकेको सहमति उल्टाउने र सत्ता छाड्नै नचाहने प्रधानमन्त्री भट्टराईले पत्रकार थापाका हत्यारालाई अभयदान दिने प्रयत्न गरेर जंगी शासन सुरु गर्न खोजेका छन् । लोकतन्त्रको सुरक्षित भविष्यका निम्ति यसको चौतर्फी प्रतिवाद अनिवार्य छ ।
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