HOR declares Nepal “untouchability free” country

In yet another major announcement, the reinstated House of Representatives on Sunday unanimously endorsed a proposal to declare Nepal a country “free of untouchability and all kinds of discrimination.”

The legal and constitutional status of the proposal, however, remains unclear.

Moving a proposal of “urgent public importance,” a lawmaker of the CPN (UML), Parshuram Neghi Gurung, called on so-called dalit community—that constitutes 16 percent of the country’s 27 million population—in all processes of making new constitution and ending all sorts of discriminatory policies and practices including so-called untouchability.

The proposal calls for mobilization of special economic programme for education, health and employment for dalits and those under the absolute poverty line to their status.

The constitution of the kingdom of Nepal 1990 prohibits all types of discrimination against citizens on the basis of caste, gender or religion. But activists said a number of discriminatory provisions and laws were still in practice.

Addressing the House session on Sunday, Minister for Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs Narendra Bikram Nemwang said untouchability was a social crime and that the government would introduce a new bill soon to make necessary amendments in the existing Act.

Earlier, the House of Representatives has already declared Nepal a secular state and asked the government to formulate laws so as to issue citizenship certificated to children in the name of their mother. Earlier, the certificate could be issued in the name of father only.

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ImI,
Go and read it over once again. Do not just pick a couple of lines that you find arguable and look for the answer.
I am not discussing any political issues.

ImI,
Please read it as "I am not discussing any political with you".
Once again, I was giving my views on violence.

Sahila Ji, good point! People change with time. People are getting more and more civilized as time is advancing. In ancient time there used to be war between two families. They tried to invade each other. There was a time when families bigun to live with harmony but the wars between neighboring villages started. Then the time came when villages bigun to live with harmony but war between neighboring countries started.

Now, is the time where most of the countries live with harmony. No stronger country invade the weaker one (don't argue about the foreign policies, every countries look for their interest, it's natural). Not perfectly but more or less people/countries respect each other. A weaker country like Nepal keeps it's explicit identity among it's prospective superpower gaint Neighbours. We are in civilized world. There is harmony between contries and harmony between people; such harmony has perhaps never existed in the human race.

It was the middle of the 20th century, people gave up the idea of colony. Since then half a century has passed and you are giving me 200 years old example.

I value your violent loving nature (if you have) because I strongly believe that the diversity is one of the greatest law of nature. However, how right your point of view is not a relative but absolute. Violence has its indentity there is no doubt but it must compite with non-violence to secure it's absolute position.

I am sorry I got really lost what you mean by Sensitivity ?

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180⁰ point of view Contd................


Why do you want to impose your thoughts?
Since you think violence can be a solution of problems, it doesn’t mean that everybody else should think that way. People are different because they think differently. Why don’t you respect it? Why do you want to impose your idea on others? I don’t like violence, why do you want to drag me on violence? Justify the compulsion of a full timer per home in remote Nepal! Imagine you live in Rukum/Rolpa, how horrifying would that be?

If I can’t think the way Baburam and Prachanda think, it doesn’t mean that I am wrong. I believe in free society. I don’t want the thought controlling society. I believe creation emerge only in free society. Baburam and Prachanda are also talk about free society, but their action don't.

21st Century :

I appreciate Mao what he did in his time. China was a complete chaos. Perhaps war was the best solution for the chaotic China. At that time Mao couldn’t have reached to people through means of communication. However, the scenario was not the same in Nepal when Maoists waged war. Country was poor but not chaotic. Unlike China, Nepal doesn’t have big landlords to be killed. There was no need for war; social reform could be done through peaceful means. We get democracy through peaceful means. We can overthrow king through peaceful mean. Why couldn’t we achieve anything logical/rational through peaceful means? Maoist war is logical only for gullible people.

War of 21^st century shouldn’t be like that of Mao. It should be a war of reason and logic. There is vast network of communication. You go to people, convince people and win by wining their heart. Baburam and Prachanda started outdated war in wrong time. They must be thankful to King G because his idiotic action provided them opportunity to be positive. To me whatever achieved today is not due to Maoist war (Their peaceful involvement is appreciated)....Maoists war is a complete failure ………

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Missed Opportunity
21^st century is the century of global compilation. Neighboring India boomed through IT. 1% of it would be enough for our country. What a suitable business IT was for the landlocked country like us! We missed opportunity because of the violence. We don’t have enough resources, we definitely need help. Not only us, no country in the world can be self sufficient, not even US, the only superpower. Hadn’t Maoist started violence haven’t we missed the opportunity in the global business.

Killed baby democracy
We were democracy; a new born democracy. There were many problems in the country. What miracle do you expect from a 6 years old democracy? There are many examples in the world that democracies like us have progressed eventually. Why wouldn’t we? Maoists killed baby democracy for their wrong vision. I admit the bitterness of corruption in the leadership but the war as a cost is way high for it.


Human nature :
Wonderful theory of Karl Marx has been proved to be counterproductive for the human race. Diversity is in the human gene; not only in the human gene but in every single component of the cosmos. If Mr. G has $1000, he might want to save it; where as Dr. B might want to donate it, and Mr. D might want to spend it in bars. By nature people are different. You can not make them equal; they are different by nature. Another bad human nature is possessiveness. They want to possess things which contradict communism. This is the reason why communism couldn’t prevail over democracy. Why Baburam and Prachanda want to impose outdated, unproductive, non-scientific principle over Nepali?

If they want to give new idea in communism, what is the gaurentee that their new version of communism will work? Why do they want their idea to be experimented on us?

China is communism from outside but it is undisclosed capitalism from inside. China couldn’t boom until Den Xiao Pen, who opened China for free market. Why don we want to be Russia instead of USA? Why do we want to be N Koria instead of South Koria? Why don't we want to be Japan instead of China?

What is the economy plan?

Maoists said they want to be one of the parties in the multiparty democracy? If so what is their achievement? What is the contribution of 13000 lives? Whatever we achieved now we achieved through peaceful means. Where is the contribution of 13000 lives? Maoist war took away our economy, we paid them in blood. At the end we got almost everything through peaceful means. Justify this!

What are you going to give to poor people? They are expecting lands. If you are committed to Multiparty Democracy, how will you distribute lands? Let’s say somehow you decided to distribute land to have-nots. Will that be justice to distribute land only? If you distribute lands only land owners will suffer. Those who have industries, and cash will not suffer. Do you think this will be justice? To justify you have to distribute land, money, industry everything. If you do so, it will be a real communism. Do we want it?

you guys keep on whinning on violence and put your efforts to deaccelerate it, it is not going to plummet for sure. There are more violences coming over in the years to come.

AmriT

VISHONTAR ji,

Sadly it seems that we do not yet have foundation of logic, but of religion(that also misinterpreted) in our society. The people in power in our society are still stuck in 18th century. When people try to reason in nepal for justice, it will be like "kaag karaudai garcha pani sukdai jancha". Money speaks louder than reasons and logics. So what would you suggest to do in that kind of situation?

You mentioned network of communication, but how is it supposed to work when people are misinformed about the situation? The powerful ones control even the flow of right information. e.g. many villagers were unwilling to promote building of roads in their villages because the jamindars informed them that tourism (their source of income) would diminish becasue of modernization.

How can you claim Nepal doesn't have big landlords?

Elixir,
I like it .Sadhai luga jasto kura garne manchee le maila aja impress garyo..good analysis.You have better brain than some dumb fucs out here.They are still hanging with their19th centuries commies daju bahia didi bahini.

Vishontarji,
ignore the comment of sajahuser.. she doesn't understand no matter how you explain her.she is like a sardarji whose time is stuck at 12.I don't know what life she has seen back home but talks so much like commies .I don't even think she has passed fifth grade.Don't try to explain her with logic.She is blinded by prachanda bhagawan.She doesn't see , hear or talk anything against commies and prachanda superman..hahahaa..the analysis and logic in her is zero.Talks politics with mature people out here.

NEPAL WAS FREE OF UNTOUCHABILITY DURING KING MAHENDRA'S TIME LEGALLY. SO WHAT IS THIS AGAIN NOW?

Sajha User Ji,

I loved your question. It's true whatever you have stated. It takes time to change the the and change is possible only in free society. Money is important factor of life and it is true in every society. Money determines a lot many things. But if you don't have wisdom with money you create problem for you and for the society.

A true voice is louder than a crowed. Linchlon struggled decades to make his voice heard and he was eventually heard. It was a century ago. Nepal is ahead of then America, why a true voice couldn't be heard? There is no one who speack true voice.

Be happy!

ImI Ji, thank you for you nice words. I enjoyed having conversation with you. I am leaving now because my vacation has already been started and I am running out of time. I am leaving this thread incomplete, as always :).

Regarding Sajhausear, I love uneducated people because they are simple and humble unlike arrogent degree holders. Degree is nothing for me. Degree doesn't make you rational, logical, nice and humble.

I equally treat all people. Do you see any discrimination from me to anyone? I ignore people if they don't understand but never discriminate

We are brothers right :)? Bye brother!

SS74KJi, Loote Ji, I appreciate your good heart; it gives me pleasure. I am going for vacation. We may see again in Sajha.