We've known Hillary for long time, her charity works towards numerous other humanitarian issues etc.
1. She gave and delivered a kickass commencement speech at Wellesley College in 1969.
2. She was one of 27 women who graduated from Yale Law School in 1973, out of a class of 235.
3. She was the only woman on the Nixon impeachment investigation team.
4. She cofounded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families advocacy group.
5. She broke the mold for first ladies with her speech at the 1995 United Nations Women's Conference in China.
6. She won a Grammy for the audio edition of her book, It Takes a Village.
7. She worked with Ted Kennedy to expand the Children's Health Insurance Program.
8. She won the most votes of any female presidential candidate in history.
9. She set the stage for Obamacare by pushing health care reform in the '90s and during the 2008 campaign.
10. She became the most-traveled U.S. secretary of state ever.
11. She set into motion the first American talks with Iran since the 1979 revolution.

Now who is Bernie Sanders, I don't know, I really don't know and to me he popped up suddenly out of nowhere. If you are partaking in a match, there has to be someone to compete with. I believe any contenders to Hillary are just those out there just for the sake of it(match aka debate). And for someone like me when I saw him suddenly on TV saying that he's getting donation for his campaign not from billionaires but public. People paid standing ovation with round of applause, so? so what's the point? Does that make him saint? But to lot of people that made sense and now he's everyone's' talk of the night. Yes, there are things that make lot of sense to people. The same people who would believe they're getting free Ipad on some fake facebook page of real publication, the same people who follow Trump the maniac, the same fans who would like/share tweets of their drughigh fav singer who claims earth is flat, the same people who resend/retext/reshare religious messages out of fear(do this or curse would happen type), the same people who argues Ron Paul's gold theory must come back in action, the same people who believe and sell all their belongings in the name of judgment day only to turn into homeless next day, seriously I sometimes think how gullible we are to think whatever we hear and see are the truths. Bernie Sanders is another hype to me. Few videos on youtube found me the guy was a big time critique of democratic party itself, and didn't spare Obama policy from criticizing. I am afraid of sweet talkers and often time they're the back stabbers.

In all honesty, I really can't trust this Bernie dude and it seems like how honestly he's saying his things, Hillary is the way to go. Campaigns can't be run without money, however way you get it, you need money. He'll be in billionaire's pocket too if he's to get presidency. Those who think he's not going to be, are just type of people I mentioned in a paragraph above this.

If you are OBAMA supporters, VOTE for Hillary, if you are not VOTE for bernie.

Good Luck.

I'm seeing Hillary Clinton as the next president of the United States of America.

lol

Bittertruth, I wanted to correct another of your misconception.

Mily I saw the video of Sanders where he said that the protesters were simply responding to Trumps incitement of violence. Bernie went on to ask Trump to tell his supporters to refrain from any violence. I haven't seen or heard him call Trump a pathological liar however. Do you have any link(s)? 

Here are some quotes and links:

" In a statement issued later Saturday, Sanders added: "As is the case virtually every day, Donald Trump is showing the American people that he is a pathological liar." "

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/12/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump/index.html

"Bernie Sanders denounced Donald Trump as a “pathological liar” who leads a “vicious movement” on Saturday,"

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/12/sanders-attacks-trump-vicious-campaign-chicago-backlash

"Sanders Unloads On 'Pathological Liar' Trump"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-unloads-on-donald-trump_us_56e4847ae4b0860f99d9475f

Neo dai, ask every single person here on Sajha receiving Federal Pell grants or Financial aid through out the states. Obama has free tuition policy to low income students already in effect. On the other hand, bernie's free Tuition is indiscriminate agenda that will also include who has money can get the free tuition. This is absolutely horrible. May be you need to take off that bernie glasses of your eyes, then you can see the better and clear picture around what's really going on. Bernie is not without fallacy. Alright?

And your reasoning that bernie is drawing more crowds than other candidates is so moronic yet uneducated assumption. Hitler drew millions crowd than this. Even trump the lunatic has crowd resembling to bernie's crowd. I simply don't get it why you keep making these stupid comparisons.

By the way, I really don't think you need to correct me, as I wasn't wrong at all. If I mentioned some political stat on real-time one day, and the next day it changes, and you come up to me saying 'hey now it's different, you are wrong'. Political results are dynamic, changes every friggin' hours. Well, I'll let readers decide if you really did correct me? lol

And, like a desperate cat trapped in a room, scratching walls and what not, if you are going to bring back that TPS things that I said about to prove me wrong, well I still stand firm against it. It should have never been granted. I haven't changed a bit about it. It's another thing that TPS was granted. If readers are bit flabbergasted with what I've written against TPS, well just quit your jobs and go to quake striken locales and see there if TPS is really helping them. Some crooked, resourceful individuals are abusing and taking benefits off it. I've not really seen it helping someone who was really affected. They're still out there helpless. And just for your information, those still salivating on TPS have yet to wait 16-18 more months. All you did see in your sajha threads is mushrooming TPS posts - don't mean they got it all. God forbid, if Trumps get elected in next 12 months, GOODBYE to pending TPS forever. So there's that.

Finally, to folks out there, I'm not against bernie, I would still vote for him if he gets nominated unlike neo dai, who will choose not to vote another democrat 'Hillary' if she gets nominated. And ironically, he posts "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." You should vote for Hillary if not bernie, forget about your voting for better person mentality "voting not coz he can win but want him to win". You don't wanna see Trump in the chair do you? So think of Trump's dreadful face and his policy, recite this very mantra of yours which is ""The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." and VOTE FOR HILLARY if she ever gets to nomination.

@sixfour - "On the other hand, bernie's free Tuition is indiscriminate agenda that will also include who has money can get the free tuition."

It is like arguing that public K-12 education should not be free because rich kids might get access to public K-12 education.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3489825/Hillary-Clinton-blasted-asking-Bernie-Sanders-campaigned-health-care-93-94-picture-standing-right-emerges.html

Just another lie from Hillary. Of course, Hillary fanboys would like to disagree. This woman has been lying since her husband was a president. And I am talking about lies that has everything to do with Clintons political agenda for decades. But sometimes she lies about things that does not even matter and makes herself look stupid.

To those people who are saying they support Hillary just because they want to see a woman president in their lifetime, that is downright "sexist". And I am sure in future there will be numbers of qualified, intelligent, and experienced women running for president. Hillary is not the one. She should be indicted for her email scandal. If it was another presidential candidate involved in that scandal, things would have been very different and that person probably would not be allowed to run presidential campaigns. But she is a Clinton, so the law is automatically on her side because these clintons think they are above the law.

I am only going to vote for Bernie. If Hillary gets the Democratic nomination, I will not vote for anyone. This is the decision I made couple of months ago. I will never vote for this vile woman in my life!

#HillaryforPrison2016
#FeeltheBern

BT bro, personally I don't have any problem with you standing for or against TPS.. the point I was trying to make here is sometimes you act overconfident... I know you have a good heart and you have interest in diverse subjects... but we can confidently talk about only a few things on which we have in-depth knowledge..nobody is a political pundit here...we are putting our points based on our knowledge and beliefs and making predictions. By making arguments it helps us to do the reality check of each other's points, but we still don't know how our prediction is going to work. I know you always try to make your argument objective by including adequate data and variables, but in an open system like politics there will be many unknown variables. Even the rocket science fails sometimes. So when you weigh all the facts and trends of this election the outcome might be as you predicted, but there is also a possibility of a different outcome. I think the problem is your complete denial of others' points.

The reason I brought that TPS issue here is not to highlight that you were against TPS but to show you how your prediction become wrong in spite of your better understanding and thorough analysis of the subject. The way you gave us the detail description of how the Department of Homeland Security works and your warning not to mess with DHS, I thought nobody knows systems in the US (at least here in Sajha) better than you. You gave us explanation of every possible reason of Nepalese not getting TPS. However, your prediction went wrong. Who knows same can happen again.

GT bro, I think highly of Neo dai and he'll always be there in that position. May be we're running short of memory but I've sided with Neo dai in many situations right here on sajha. I happened to have no bootlicking nature and thus there are some moments I don't agree with him. I didn't realize when I made this post, he would come up and post comments in disagreement. I didn't even realize he was an avid bernie supporter. Then I tried my best not to involve into any sort of discussion with him. I even literally mentioned that I wouldn't get myself involved. But, lol. he didn't leave me any choice as he kept coming on and on and things got interesting. I still have high respect for him. If you are under the influence that I'm going renegade against him then it's your misunderstanding. We're just having a political discussion here. I still don't have clue why would you come up to this political discussion to bring the TPS issue when it was totally irrelevant and non-political. If your point is to prove that my analysis was wrong, then that attempt of yours is pointless. Based on the petition garnered back then out of 300k petition requested for TPS, it was pretty obvious and unlikely to get TPS. Nowhere in the comments I have written back then mentions in prophetic tone that I made a prediction that Nepalese won't get TPS. All I've written was it's very unlikely that Nepalese will get TPS based on the petition garnered. And I was aggressively voicing my opinion against it. That's all there was. I still stand firm to that opinion regardless of if it's granted or not. But your cameo post on my months old TPS comment, is still irrelevant. Remember, I made no prediction, it was just an analysis based on petition stat. Lets talk Hillary vs bernie, hows that GT bro? :)

And, regarding my analysis on Hillary vs bernie, I've already acknowledged that things are getting better for bernie few posts down there. If you haven't read it yet, please go ahead and read it. That wouldn't prevent me from supporting bernie unlike some people who are strict about not voting Hillary just in case. Whatever I've written early on for Hillary was based on poll statistics, not cheers and screaming. My analysis is totally based on statistics. I'm not using any prophetic tone to predict anything about this election as you guys are sounding. More than 20 million people thought Hillary is gonna win Michingan. I was just one of em. She didn't win. 20 million people didn't make prediction, they're just pretty damn confident. But hard reality is that bernie is gaining momentum and that doesn't bother us bit. If not Hillary, then bernie. We're dead focus against Trump the lunatic and that's for sure.

Please keep this discussion political.

lol BT bro it couldn't get more political than this ..

"Neo dai, ask every single person here on Sajha receiving Federal Pell grants or Financial aid through out the states. Obama has free tuition policy to low income students already in effect. On the other hand, bernie's free Tuition is indiscriminate agenda that will also include who has money can get the free tuition. This is absolutely horrible. May be you need to take off that bernie glasses of your eyes, then you can see the better and clear picture around what's really going on. Bernie is not without fallacy. Alright?"

Bernie shreds a telecaster guitar during a debate with Clinton : Battle of the bands

 

lol. am not hating on bernie, you are hateful to Hillary.

That TPS comments were totally out of context. It was brought up just to prove me wrong.
All I did was analysis based on petition results, not PREDICTION and aggressively opposed it and do it till this date. It's now been enacted doesn't mean I conceded to it.

If you've cared how these delegates win results are posted, then you would have noticed that there are sometimes human errors and those results get retracted. I fell upon one of those. The same site is now showing the result as you are showing. As a fact, I'm not the one to count all those, am just fetching information like you all do. And, I didn't make up that 63 delegates thing. That doesn't prove I lied(wrong). I blame that on retracted poll result. another lol ;)

It is not emotional outburst, it's just election related political outburst. I'm amazed that so-called educated individual even failed to grasp the simplest annotation 'political' that I was referring to was nothing but merely presidential election. How can this debate be going on the same level of understanding when individual knowingly/unknowingly can't differentiate what am yapping here is all election not past immigration agendas. "Nepalese -US immigration" - "American Presidential Election" , does it lego match in anyway? Let's keep immigration politics aside and continue on nominee politics. That's all I intend to mean.

That's actually true 'Hillary Vs bernie' that's what all this thread about, been contemplating that I should start another thread and since we're all democrats with common base, title of this thread is becoming kind of nuisance to me.

Anyway, keep this debate going on. Vote for Hillary if somehow can't get bernie uncle to nomination.(just for the sake of title of this thread)

Let's see what happens in next 2 days. If bernie wins florida, am done with this thread, if Hillary wins , I'll come back with vengeance. hahahaha.

Good luck. :)

Bittertruth, You are not hating on Bernie because what is there to hate him about? While I have outlined a whole lot of things to dislike Hillary about. What I am surprised is that you still love Hillary inspite of it all. So that does not make sense :)

No wonder Hillary has been trying copy Bernie thesedays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlV2lOJuUPU

CNN reports that 3 out of 3 claims by Bernie on the Democratic debate last night were true. While 2 out of 3 claims by Hillary were inaccurate. 

Yeah, let's believe any article as long as it says "Hillary is the evil", "Hillary is the liar", "indict Hillary", "send her to prison". On top of that, let's call others sheep.

Hillary said "when President Obama went into office and I became secretary of state, the Iranians had mastered the nuclear fuel cycle. They had built covert facilities, they had stocked them with centrifuges. All of that happened while George W. Bush was president"

And CNN provided their so called counter argument "Iran's nuclear program dates all the way back to the 1980s. But the Iranian government did not announce it had mastered the nuclear fuel cycle until the end of 2010".

Does CNN really have a logical rationale here? Who cares? As long as the article disproves Hillary's statements, we should blindly believe it :) And those who don't blindly believe it are sheep :)

Mily, CNN is a network that gives Sanders as little airtime as possible. Sanders was rarely even mentioned in CNN news till few weeks back once Sanders started to win different states. So CNN being a pro-Hillary network, for them to write such an article is share-worthy.

CNN even deleted their poll after the last debate in Florida where Bernie was leading by 80% LOL. This was a disaster specially after unfairly giving Hillary 1/3rd more time than Bernie to speak and interrupting Bernie far more than Hillary. Even after Bernie got standing ovation the CNN camera followed Hillary around for half an hour after the debate was over. Talk about media bias.

So, for a network that is totally pro Hillary, to show some pro-Bernie article just shows that maybe just maybe the media is worried that the people will stop watching them. After all their money comes in from the people :)