Male Chauvinist Pig

Of all the people in the Sajha, you Behoove. I would have never expected you would resort to this. Now that you have done it and I have completely lost my will to participate in Sajha. I still love the dramatization that you have provided in the narration, I must be imagined as evil witch and you are on course on your witch hunt. I wish for similar dramatization here as in Julius Caesar with "Eh tu, Behoove." At the end of this story you will be knighted, and offered accolades in the forms of LIKES, while I will be one to be torched in my defiant act of standing out and speaking.

I still have fond memories of you while you may not remember me, I am actually subscribed to your post. Over the span of two years I have followed you in shadow. No doubt, you are a wordsmith as you are able to depict me as evil person hissing and my screams having  ability to shake your computer screen. I wish I had those abilities. I don't mind you attacking me, I just expected  you did that with more class.

My "F Yous" were directly at the site's administrator lack of moderation. I never wanted to attack any one personally. It could have been my frustration that lead to the outburst. I admit I might have gone little overboard. Yes, I was very angry. I might not have participated in Sajha as much as you did, nor have I offered in the magnitude you do, but somehow I used to feel there is bond among the people who travel and settle thousands of miles away from home. Sadly, those people still hold same mindset.  No matter how angry I was, I still felt bad for the outburst and decided that I should offer my apologies. I entered the room and I was demanded "An apology".  I just could not surrender myself to bruised egos.

You decided to use adjectives such as harlots, hooker to develop my character as such I will regard my anonymity as a boon. Did you see me Behoove calling names at Neo? I only directed two "F Yous" to him and reflect once that you might as well have daughter one day and these constant harassing will serve you reminder.

Why would I direct my fury at Neo? Because I felt he was responsible to keep things in order. I saw his lack of actions as silent endorsement  of things that keeps going on. I just had to make myself heard. Don't mistake my unwillingness to debate with something else, it was actually my respect for you that I did not want to get involved.  That is only reason I left the room in the first place.

Like you said, neo could care less about individual like me. I can agree to that.

I am glad we will never meet in person and I never proclaimed messiah in anonymity. In fact, you have proclaimed yourself as messiah of the "Male chauvinist pigs" by writing this diatribe. Only a male chauvinist can find relation between changing a tampon and banning a user.

 

Yours Truly

Ojaswi Rana

The way I see it 5 people need to apologize to the lady. If you gave thumbs up, you agreed with the labeling of this lady as a harlot. You can still redeem yourself by apologizing. It will not mean Ojaswi was right but it will mean that you are indeed a gentleman, with a good upbringing where such words were not taught by your parents at home and that you admit that your parents would not be proud of you for using such words to describe a woman. You can replace this word with the nepali equivalent to assess the real damage. Behoove and the people who gave thumbs up are all respectable, educated and intelligent people. So I request you to apologize. I have a strong feeling all 5 will apologize. I wonder who will be the first one.

झगडा गर्दा पनि अंग्रेजी लिटरेचर?? गजब छ....

I can so see these cyber ninjas sitting behind their computer wearing their half an inch thick glasses typing as fast as they can in english literature for an answer.

lol SAP ley dekai ho bhitta ma pugney gari..

फक दिस! 

Juggy should have written like this:

फक दिस!
फक अपोलोजी!
फक वोर्ल्ड !
फक पीस! एंड
फक literature
नाव द्याट स्युर्ली फील्स गूद like changing tampoons !

(starting with F**k and ending with tampoon.)

 Bittertruth bro, why dont you take the lead?. Apologize to the lady my friend. You will not be belittling yourself. The post you gave thumbs up to addresses a female derogatively. You are the same person who does meditation and searches for divine knowledge. How can you do that if you support such cheap labeling?. Behooveji, redeem yourself brother. We are nepalese in our heart and educated, let us not use such derogatory terms. It is wrong and you know it. Do not be afraid to admit it. 

 thukah yesto "LIKES" ko lai manche haru le je pai tei lekdho raicha. Hamro behoovey le ni khatra lekeko raicha. Kasto risako hola..hahah. yo padhera haso laghyo.... hammi nepali haru ko banni ta ho... keti lai hochiyauna "Randi" bhanda sayad furti nai arko aouncha. Sayad english ma bhanda teti kadha sunni daina hola, nepali bhanda dami sunincha.

K taal ko manche hola yini haru? Chat ko kura ni bahira liyaune. Pura hollywood movie herey jhai po bhayo. hahaha

या, शोभ द फकिंग त्याम्पुन इन द यासहोलस यास व्हायिल  दे आर बिजी रबिंग देर यास इन इच अदर्स हेद! थान्क यु एंड फक यु! 

Freedom, I don't want to take a lead or don't expect anyone to follow me,
I'm not a bad person and not disrespectful towards others at all. I don't
have sage like mindset to keep my cool all time, I sometimes get entangled
emotionally. Though I try hard to keep my balance in tact, but things happen.
This anonymity behind the screen sometimes give you super human strength
to express yourself differently than you are in your real life. I was no different.
I may have crossed the line during all this time here on sajha, and knowningly/
unknowingly must have hurt sentiments enough though I never really meant it,
that was just me being playful troll using his 'super human strength' behind the
screen. I'm pretty much sure, we all regardless of where we hail from and how
we act here, are noble ones in real life. One of the things that I don't
want to have as regret to have on my death bed, that I wish I had never hurt
anyone or I wish I had apologized to those who I've intentionally/unintentionally
hurt. I'm not doing any favor to anyone, I'm just trying to unload that burden off
my shoulder, and no I won't be belittling myself when I'm apologising to someone,
I know it takes great strength to gulp the ego and have enough
courage to do so. I'm digging and decided to engrave all my ego, old grudges
to burial. What has been done has been done, can't be undone only be remorsed.
Ms Rana, I was surprised to learn you still had grudge towards me through one of
your recent comments that I happened to stumble upon.
I hereby want to apologize to all who think I might have hurt them through this
electronic means of communication. And I'm not expecting forgiveness either.
Who am I to judge anyone, I'm just a banterer at play. Would try my best to limit
my activities or involvement.
Some of us may laugh at making this such a big issue out of it, this whole incident
which of course could be a pesky virtual 'pop' for many, but real lives when start to
get affected, then things become serious.

Well said BT bro. You have proven yourself as a gentleman. Yes we all make mistakes but some mistakes need to be corrected more than others. Some people could be emotionally vulnerable and it is unwise to gang up and attack her character in public. This might potentially result in a tragedy that all will live to regret. Calling someone a "Ra.ndi" is not funny. And more so in the virtual world where we do not know how a person is character wise. I know you are a great and responsible individual that is why I knew after some soul searching you would agree. I am not trying to be a hero. I am not trying to play holier than thou. But in this instance, I do want to claim a moral high ground. All people of Sajha should condemn such behavior. Sometimes people need reassurance that the world is not all bad. Nothing wrong in giving such a reassurance. And if by apologizing you give confidence and respect to someone, then no one should hesitate. Sometimes simply by saying sorry, you never know you could be saving a life. Now I do not want to sound all gloomy but it is a fact.

 They banned the NAS who was so entertaining on Sajha, the post abt Priyanka Karki was so intense that even Priyanka herself has to come to Sajha n defend theallegations, it was interesting. I checked NAS nepricans.com n it was interesting too.

Another interesting thread...

 Gentleman??? Who you? First learn to have some respect for ladies. 

This post is directed to Neo

Even I don't like things from chatroom being brought into public and before I am gone I would like to clear my name as you have labelled me Troll. This comes as a surprise to me and on which basis did you come to such conclusion? I was never big fan of sajha chat and I rarely visit it. When I did, I found creatures like Chaurey and Bittertruth lurking in the corner. Seriously how do you define "troll"? Just because I am anonymous did you come to such conclusion. Everytime I visited the chatroom this person with the nick Chaurey was trying his level best to annoy others. I objected to it every single time and he now labels me "drama queen".  While we are at it let me also post this special message that is still in my mailbox. If I was really a troll, I should have done better like asking for his videos and posting it to sajha for  entire world to see. Now he is pretending to be a sage.

Last time I talked to you, you were asking me for feedback about sajha and I was more than happy to give it to you. I used sajha on most occasion to discussion on social and political issues and sometimes to find solutions to my problem such as if Iphone will work in Nepal. Before my outburst did you ever find me trying to hurt or harass anyone? My posts span over 2 years. At any point did I try to take advantage of my anonymity?

 

Giordano bro, le pani thumbs up?. Now you join Neo bro, Rahul bro, Kalikopoi bro owing an apology to the lady. It is never too late. What has happened to you educated lot?. Surely deep inside you know that you disagree with this labeling. The only reason I can think of is that you guys think apologizing will belittle and hurt your ego.

 Mister Rana,

Do you need a box of tissue? consolation card? lollipop? don't you have better things to do then to take things seriously/personally in a portal where people are anonymous? grow some gaida ko chala and come back.  

TOINK! http://sajha.com/sajha/chat/smileys/m-unsure.gif

Ojaswi
I really hoped this thread would not be dragged on since I had already said that things in chat room should be resolved there and not dragged anywhere else, but since it's been dragged on I will try to answer your query. Although I would rather not have had to reveal why I hinted you trolling, if you must know then, as an admin, I have noticed a while ago that you shared the same identity as far as using same computer with another user sabita_bhabhi who is has been publicy trolling in chat, whose activity I do not want to mention here since what hapens in SB stays in SB, but in any case, I do not have anything against you. I just did not take your "f"words seriously. I have not lost respect for you in any ways. I do understand, however, that you may have issues with some other users like you have mentioned but you will need to resolve those things with them personally.

As far as Freedom2012's urging for apologies, I agree with you that the usage of word 'harlot' was not fitting, and personally I would not endorse the usage of any thing demeaning to anyone. I have even mentioned to Behoove that I don't agree with the usage of 'harlot'. But you cannot base a "like" for a posting to be a full blanket endorsement of everything posted. For instance, if someone says, "I like Obama." Then that doesn't mean they like "everything" that Obama says or does. They may disagree Obama's stance on certain issues, but on the whole, they like him. In the same way, if I likes a post, it means I like the essense of the post, and as I have said in my previous respone, I 'liked' the fact that Behuv stood up for what he thought was right and "condemned" ojaswi's foul action, just like you are asking people to condem Behuv, he also felt it was his moral obligation to condemn her foul display.

If people would be so picky about 'likes' then maybe you would have liked the facility to 'like' each sentence so that you are not confused with what exactly is being liked.

Freedom, do you like every word, and every sentence of a post when you "like" something? Are you demanding an apology because my definition of "like" does not fit with your definition of "like"?

Perhaps, before going on a public campaign to get apologies,  a more ideal preliminary round would have been to ask whether or not every who liked behuv's post, endorsed the usage of the word "harlot" and other female related issues. To which question my answer would have been a resounding "NO".

Hope you can move on with my answer. If you have the time or the inclination to dissect my response and prove me wrong please go ahead because I am not changing my stance.



PS: in case anyone is wondering what the sajha chat is or where it is, it can be accessed from the sajha homepage towards the right, under the search section. Or if you are logged in you can access via this link: http://sajha.com/sajha/html/sajhachat.cfm

‘F#$k you ne0’ – The harlot screamed in sajha board whole lotta blather and the pink font.

When you are bleeding, screaming comes like a knee jerk. Someone cries the reactionary tears and the "Messiah of Gentleman" sees the need to paint the subject as HARLOT. Maybe another knee Jerk albeit carved in stones rather than in sand. It is utterly wrong to paint every pink bleeding to that of a HARLOT. 
What is even more contrasting is praising someone who as far as I know stands for anything but this stereotype and belittling of women. How is the praise of a person justifiable when you essentially contradict her ideas in the same thread? When I try to connect the dots, I dont see a Seurat here.

More so like a hooker whose client didn’t pay her enough after a brief sexual encounter. 

Raises a lot of eye brows. I might be naive, I don't have any first hand or second hand account of how "they" would behave. The problem here is the stereotype on "hookers" reaction to a client who didn't pay her enough. The second problem, I think, is more like blaming a slave than the system of slavery.

 It is no secret that the current state of sajha has hit rock bottom, thanks to users like gorikopoi, masane, ashisme, buqtraq, nevani and others who find peace in playing with others’ aggravation.

May be it is time to look in the mirror. Although a "virtual Image", it resembles quite nicely to the source.

Just so you know banning users in sajha isn't as as easy as changing tampons.

I'm not asking you to maintain a moral high ground or asking you to apologise to the other gender that you take so much fund in belittling, knowingly or unknowingly. But please, get rid of the attitude that my mother is a virgin and all other females (or more precisely, who say F@@k neo) are Harlots. 
And please, do not resort to Ad Hominems that can be exploted in condescending the other gender.
I don't know who the Vixen is or who Gentleman is or who the Messiah is and I couldn't care less about who is at fault. But use of stereotype in criticising an individual's unjust act (if any) is unacceptable.
Thank You