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Nepe
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Posted on 02-14-05 3:49
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The Washington Post today ran an editorial titled "The Himalayan Mistake". It has suggested the US government to warn the King Gyanendra and his Generals of blocking Nepal's lifeline of support from the outside world. Full text: Editorial The Washington Post Monday, February 14, 2005; Page A16 A Himalayan Mistake A RULER besieged by Maoist guerrillas has forcibly dissolved his civilian government, arrested scores of opponents, declared martial law and suspended personal freedoms. Democratic governments face an unpalatable choice: either swallow this coup or suspend military and economic support in an attempt to reverse it. Either way, the Maoists may get a boost. If this sounds like an anachronistic policy conundrum, it is; nevertheless, the United States faces an urgent dilemma in Nepal, a desperately poor country of 24 million wedged between India and China. A three-sided struggle is underway between a king who would return to absolute monarchy, insurgents inspired by the China of the 1950s and a democratic civil society that suddenly has been driven underground. The risk is of a new failed state in Asia, or a repeat of the brutal totalitarianism that once devastated China and Cambodia. The troubles of Nepal, revered by trekkers as the home of Mount Everest, have been steadily growing since 1996, when the Maoists launched their war against an elected democratic government and the then-constitutional monarch. When the king was murdered in 2001, he was succeeded by his brother, who had opposed the transition to democratic rule a decade earlier. As the Maoist insurgency grew worse, King Gyanendra dissolved the parliament in 2002; for most of the time since then a multiparty appointed government has led the country while conducting on-and-off peace talks with the Maoists. This month the king deployed troops in the capital, Katmandu, placed the civilian political leadership under arrest, and suspended freedom of the press and of assembly. According to Human Rights Watch, more than 150 political leaders and student activists have been detained or confined to their homes, including every prime minister since 1990. The media have been banned from any critical reporting on the military. Many journalists, human rights activists and civilian politicians have been forced into hiding. The king's crackdown was greeted with universal condemnation by the governments that supply Nepal with most of its military and economic aid -- including India, the United States and Britain. But the king has shown no sign of reversing course: He has appointed a new, non-party cabinet and issued statements denouncing the civilian political class as inept and corrupt. He has the Nepalese military on his side, and he appears to believe that he will win over the country and its donors if he can make progress against the Maoists, who control large parts of the countryside and are renowned for their brutality. Such thinking is delusional. More likely, the king's folly will bring about the demise of the monarchy along with democratic government and worsen bloodshed that has already cost more than 10,000 lives. The Bush administration should join with India, Britain and other concerned governments in making the king and his generals an offer they can't refuse: Restore the multiparty system and democratic freedoms, or lose Nepal's lifeline of support from the outside world.
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highfly
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Posted on 02-16-05 11:30
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Yo Nepe bro, Key ho, if somebody do not agree with you, then u gonna take it to personal level. Arrogrant, ok cool man. Whatever? ANy body against your posting is arrogant, illiterate. Comon bro. I am not the only one asking about alternatives.Enlighten us with your vision.But that should be attainable. Pheri Tara(stars) tepare laidinchhu bhanne hoina ni. As dariwal said what is the alternative.
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Posted on 02-16-05 11:55
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Internal Business...everyone should stay out of it....those who call for democracy are people who support anarchy so hey can profit from misery of others.... Grija and his cohorts....
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Nepe
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Posted on 02-16-05 12:53
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Highfly, Let's put the matter of general anonymous arrogance aside. Because anonymous cyber arrogance does not count as real arrogance. Because real arrogance comes with a distinct price, but anonymous cyber arrogance is free. I also don't give importance to anonymous I agree/I disagree type of statements. Because agreement/disagreement does not make sense without identity. The only thing that does not require real identity to matter is idea- ideas that are shared with good faith. Although the overwhelming majority of posters and their postings in Sajha, more so these days, belong to the first two categories, there is still a tiny space in Sajha filled by ideas. This is the only thing that has kept me in Sajha. But I disgressed. Now on ideas, I don't know about Dariwal, but what happened to Highfly who promised to read my ideas, on the sustainable and fair alternative to both the Gyanendraism and the Maoism, which I have explained in a great detail (40,000 words !) - http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/column.cfm?extraid=622 some excerpts: A just and permanent solution to the Maoist problem There is no doubt that we, the Nepali people, should do everything to stop Maoist from making Nepal a guinea pig of the second communist experiment of our history. There are only two ways we can do that, either by a forced foreign military intervention or by an honest political sensibility. ???????. Some people may still be hopeful of Fujimori brand of solution, but the fact that Nepali Shining Path Comrade are not fighting against a bourgeois democracy but against a Monarchy and that Peru's wound is still open makes it very unconvincing option. And let us not forget our security forces already have failed us, well, of course for reasons explainable. Then, the only option left is an honest political solution. Now, some people might be feeling very uncomfortable with the adjective 'honest', which is natural, because honesty is an alien culture to us. Our culture is 'might is right'. Our culture is a tolerance to hanky panky of the mighty one. But friends, sometimes we should give up our culture. For our survival's sake. Ke garne ? Banchnai paryo ! So let's do it. Let's go to this.. our first experiment with honesty, this maiden voyage of truth, our pratham sahavaas with our future on an uncorrupted bed of bravery and sincerity. One of the most popular phrases in the circle of civil society, particularly among those 'conflict management experts', since the first talk between the government and the Maoists took place, has been 'COMPROMISE'. I understand the diplomatic value of this phrase and that that's what happens eventually to the parties of a conflict. However, I feel this phrase is not serving it's purpose in the context of our conflict. As a matter of fact, I think, this phrase is doing the opposite- frightening the parties of the conflict and misleading the people. A king is a king. He does not compromise. Got that ? He can sacrifice for the good of his subjects. ??.. Maoists are great revolutionaries, for ?? 'compromise'. That's a revisionism, that's a bourgeoisie ploy. Now the ordinary people. When you say compromise.. compromise.. possibly what message goes to them ? That both parties we are talking about have legitimate positions. That they have a minor and solvable, but not a major and unsolvable disagreement. That the parties' slight flexibilities are all what is needed to solve the problem. That the people are supposed to accept them when they make an agreement between themselves. That that is even not a question. That people's huge participation has neither room nor is necessary in the process. And so on. So I think 'SACRIFICE' is the phrase of the day. It is sexier, more powerful and telling than that dull phrase 'COMPROMISE'. Now the honest, truthful, fair, fearless, bloodless, peaceful, democratic, economic and permanent solution to the Maoist problem and the answer to the other side of the coin, the question of the Monarchy. ??.. (For more, click the link above)
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Posted on 02-17-05 8:06
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Nepe bro, I did not read u r whole column cause its too long and I am kinda busy. But I read this excerpts. Reading it I still could not figure out the possible solution. Its too theoritical and I could not figure out how practical it would be. First of all there are no genuine leaders that can lead that really care about the people (level 5 leaders), if u know what I mean. "That the parties' slight flexibilities are all what is needed to solve the problem" For this u got have genuine leader. Not leaders like Girija, Makune, or Sher Bahadur whose sole purpose is getting into power and amash wealth. They will not comprimise cause they do not feel for nation. Now the King position. He will have to go for constituional monarch sometime. BUt the current desperate situation required a drastic measure, that he took. He will not go for republican no matter what. Just get real. Asking for republican govt is going for long civil war with no results with only Nepalese sufferings. All u rviews theoratically sounds good and fuzzy but I did not get the practical use. And bro please could u bullet it out u r solution. Key garne mgmt field ko pare. ANi chha ni lamo column parda central theme bich ma harunchha. THats my bad though. Peace
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Nepe
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Posted on 02-17-05 3:59
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Constituent Assembly or Referendum on Monarchy that I argued for in my article are round about ways to reach to our ultimate destiny. So here is a direct one, in response to new and lazy (to read my article) Sajhaites' question about what would I do if I were Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shahdev himself, If I were Gyanendra, I would agree for the democratic republic of Nepal and launch my own political party. This will not only end more than half a century long struggle of Nepali people for democracy, but also will prove that, 1. Gyanendra's commitment for democracy is genuine, not the fake one, 2. He is not hiding his political ambitions; he is not a hypocrite; he is open and honest, 3. He really believes that he can do better than Girija et al and has courage to do it.
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Posted on 02-17-05 4:45
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Nepe jeee Maoist have repeatedly said that they wont give in their weapons if and during the elections to the constituent assembley were held.........it just goes to show their sincerety to negotiations. Ideally the way to marginalise them for the political parties and militrary(ie king ) to unite and do what the americans did in Iraq......hold elections and have the democratic process move forward.......but these politicians for whom i have voted for in the past, were so incompetent....that they dont realize that not going for elections means handing the maoist a propaganda war and giving the king a reason to take over....... at least its better in the short run that the king took over, we want peace....hopefully peace and democracy can co exist..... otherwise peace and a maoist republic wont be a bad option either
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Posted on 02-17-05 4:51
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i really wonder a lot. a lot. how, in god's name, has the king's taking over contributed to peace? how can it?
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Posted on 02-17-05 4:56
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for a simple reason,.........there are no guaranteees in life......we try to do our best to get things done...we do it right...... for the first time in 15 years....someone has take an initiative and said ok i will bring peace in 3 years........whether he suceeds is another matter altogether.......but someone is atleast trying......not just talking about a negotiated solution etc..... hope is a strong thing......but if he fails then that means he will probably get deposed and hopefully then we can have peace ....so either way its a good thing
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Posted on 02-17-05 4:59
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hope is over-rated. when it is baseless. many people have said many times during the last 8-9 years, i will bring peace. its all talking. all talking.
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Posted on 02-17-05 5:02
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well thats your opinion............but those people didnt have their throne on the line.......gyane has thrown in everything, the stakes are higher for him.....so lets see what he does.........
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Posted on 02-17-05 5:07
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they had their existence on their line. they've lost it now. the stakes are the highest for the people. the people. the people.
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Posted on 02-17-05 5:08
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and "not just talking about negotiated peace" will bring peace? how?
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