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 LOVE: IS IT ILLUSION, CONFUSION

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Posted on 04-21-05 11:05 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I was in class, as usual trying to sleep, but something did turned my mind came outta the class and wrote my mind.

LOVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!what is love ???????? as a matter of fact I dunno the meaning?.. I mean its vague, any one can define it in their own way. Its like liquid, which takes the shape of the container. So here container is the person who defines it. It is the best definition I can put. No one really knows what love is and what it is all about. Every one feels it, every one talks bout it and blah blah blah blah???????.. but do the people really understand the meaning ??????????????? I dunno. There are lotza stories bout love, so called love sotries like Romeo and Juliet, Heer and Rajha. Ram and Sita, Radha and Krishna and yada yada yada yada yada??????. I can go on. But all of them has a similarity, none of them lived happily ever after or did they ???????? I don?t think so. Love hurts, its pain in back, it keeps on hurting and still u want it, but Y ?
Someone has said, dunno who ?????? but said, love is to give not to take, Love is to lose, not to win. Is it true ??????????might be, all the storied above suggests that this statement is true. Y am I explaining all these????????????? Khai ? love is illusion, confusion, delusion, fallacy and wat not ? it is more vague and vast than universe. *study universe and study love* I got the choice, I choose I study universe, it is easier to study in comparision. Mahadev (god of all gods) had carried the dead body of his wife all around the world for years (this is just a belief, but might be true as well), that is love. And after sometime, married different girl, that was also love. Which one was true ??????? Both !!!!!!!! Well I was in love some time ago. I would say long time ago. I still dunno, was that a true love, or infatuation or sexual attraction or physical attraction or ?????
How do people know bout true love ?????????????? I sacrificed a lot for a girl and what did I get ????? nothing. A rejection after some time. People say there shouldn?t be any expectation in love, ok, great, but is it true in real life ?????? Hell noooooo People are very selfish, every one is selfish.

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I wold like to set what I have written as a background of the story. But i need your comment and suggestions. Open to comment and debate.

harkeDai
 
Posted on 04-22-05 5:45 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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yes every one has high expectation (an ideal thing, choice, career, life, etc). ..but expecting that all the time, from everyone is just plain wrong. It's reality folks...there is no such thing as an ideal anything. If you have a gf and you have this picture of ideal girl you want....you will never be happy. You will always compare and compare and never be satisfied then at the end you will be being selfish only caring about what you want........ and in true love..or if you really care about the person then you can't be thinking about what YOU want.... there!!! PLAIN & simple...!!! People who do that ........GET A LIFE!!!!

 
Posted on 04-22-05 6:50 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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AuetiKT

It appears like you have more of a pessimistic view towards idealism probably because of higher expectations from her love. Let me note that if someone sincerely likes to see her do better in ever aspect or many aspect of her life so that she can later be proud of herself and get more happiness later for herself, then it is a true love after all.

"Ideal" is something more like a target level and "how close you get" is something else. In reality people dont necessarily get to the target but they can always try to get there.

You wrote: ".....If you have a gf and you have this picture of ideal girl you want....you will never be happy. You will always compare and compare and never be satisfied then at the end you will be being selfish only caring about what you want........ "

These lines makes it clear that it's not a true love at all but more of a selfishness of someone that falsely "claims to love her truely".

You already know the difference only thing is that you are mixing it up again.



 
Posted on 04-22-05 7:00 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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yaar love sove ko dherai kura nagar na hau.. ritima ko yaad aucha.... hehehehehe

feri khapi nasaknu huncha .. hehehehehe.....

tara by the way.. yo confusing chai sarai confusing cheeze chai ho kya.... by the way... its CHEESE hehehehehe... cheeese jastai huncha kaile jamne .. kaiile pagline... confusing yaar!!!

ritima k gardai holi?????

 
Posted on 04-23-05 7:02 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hi HarkeDai:

I am flattered by your compliments. However, thanks!!!

Infact, I tried not to analyze people too much, cause once I started analyzing others, I feel like ,sometimes, drifting away and away or vice versa. Perhaps that might be the reason this solitude is so near and dear to me.

Well, since you have accepted several points but last couple of them- I am just wondering whether you are giving me the correct answer on that. I am trying to figure out how old are you from your writing, just pending on 25-30 (may be +/- included), which will definitely help me to sort it out in more indepth.

"Right on target, great job, u should be in olympic dude. nepal le gold medal pai haltyo ki. hehehehehe."------->>>> To answer this, I wish my those clients will be genuine like HarkeDai. Unfortunatley they are not, but mere nepotism freaks and will disappear on the Olympic City without any trace, so in that case I refused to analyze them. LOL...

By the way, are you in east coast or west coast???

Pheri-Vaytaula
VR
 
Posted on 04-23-05 7:04 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I am Virtual_Reality too....

I think by now you might come across where I am from....
 
Posted on 04-23-05 7:15 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Cousin Harka,

ma yesari arthyauchhu love yaniki - Prem lai, regardless of its charcter ( kind )
sunus hai ta,

PREM BAS PIDA HO, MILYO BHANE KHUSHI, MILENA BHANE DUKHAI DUKHHA. YEHI HO PREM, YEHI HO PREM, YEHI HO PREM-PIDA.

it was defined in one story "prem-pida" written by myself.

RUINA le bhaneko thik chha, tara BIGREKI GHAR haru-ko affnai kahani hunchha pheri. well. lekhum tapaee haru sabai PREM ko paribhasha.
 
Posted on 04-23-05 12:53 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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just pending on 25-30 (may be +/- included), which will definitely help me to sort it out in more indepth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Lets not go into this depth, right away. You definately will know some day, without any problem.

By the way, are you in east coast or west coast??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
In between bro.


PREM BAS PIDA HO, MILYO BHANE KHUSHI, MILENA BHANE DUKHAI DUKHHA. YEHI HO PREM, YEHI HO PREM, YEHI HO PREM-PIDA.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Posted on 04-23-05 1:16 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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daju.....i need ur help real quick. from the above replies and shi*s, tapai prem, maya, peeratey ko bare ma dherai jannu-huncha hola bhane ra.

daju, malai pani maya peerate bhyio jasto cha, i mean: tru lop paryo jasto cha malai . well this is my chai-tau permika ho...tara yesko yaad ley..malai aali dherai nai satau na.
class ma pani...tesko yaad aaucha, khanu pani maan lagdai na, tyo sanga kura garyo bhaney ...mero bhok ra pyaas nai harau cha.....daju!!, yo malai k bhyio?

please...mero kura lai joke nabhanthannu. aafno...pyaro bhai samjey ra malai suggestion binu la? daju. than ku



 
Posted on 04-23-05 1:23 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Daju.....i need ur help real quick. from the above replies and shi*s, tapai prem, maya, peeratey ko bare ma dherai jannu-huncha hola bhane ra. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Bro i dunno nothing, aafai ta answer khojdai chu. Hope someone will help me. Hami sangai jaamla ni help khojna lai. Don't worry, u and me in same boat.


daju, malai pani maya peerate bhyio jasto cha, i mean: tru lop paryo jasto cha malai . well this is my chai-tau permika ho...tara yesko yaad ley..malai aali dherai nai satau na.
class ma pani...tesko yaad aaucha, khanu pani maan lagdai na, tyo sanga kura garyo bhaney ...mero bhok ra pyaas nai harau cha.....daju!!, yo malai k bhyio?
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Hope some ladies can help u here, But I think u need to be kicked by ur dad. Timro baa lai bhetna aaunu parla jasto cha ma. Timro address deu ta. I will be there.
Testai ho bhane love gara na ta brother. Maja le gara lop. Kehi farak pardaina. Aafnai ta huun ni sabai. Doesn't matter ni. chaithau pachi satau, tesh pachi aathau. tesh pani dasau. and goes on and on and on.

timi lai lop paryo.

All my blessing to u. napareko bhaye pani paroos

hehehehehehehehe

 
Posted on 04-23-05 1:27 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Speaking as a psychology major, to know the kinds of lop, refer to Sternberg's theory of lop. Maybe that will clear your confusion a bit. I responded after reading the topic so don't know what the thread is all about.
 
Posted on 04-23-05 3:48 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sternberg's theory of lop. <<<<<<<< meera, who is he/she? naam ta kata kata suneko jasto lagyo...tara yaad nai aaye na. tesko theory pani...ek palta aadh-yaan gare ko jasto la thyio..tara yaad nai aaye.

can u help me out, meera?

than ku
 
Posted on 04-23-05 4:27 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Netaa ji..
Everything has positives and negatives right? I am just writing down the negatives. I understand what you are saying though....it's good if you want the best for the person and that person just needs some inspiration or motivation.
Wanting everything to be ideal is great if it can happen, but if it's not something your partner wants then it's not good right? But i guess that would fall in the category of not being a true love. Coz if you truly love the person then you would let the other person do what they want to do whether it is what you want also or not.


thees_keta
if you are in love then go for it.....enjoy the moment...what's there to lose right? :-D


 
Posted on 04-23-05 4:36 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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A triangular theory of love

Sternberg's (1986) triangular theory of love suggests that there are three major components of love: intimacy, passion and decision or commitment. Intimacy includes self-disclosure through sharing emotions and stories with one's partner. Passion involves erotic interest and sexual consummation. Commitment involves making a decision to stay with your partner and to defer this type of relationship with other potential partners. When all the elements are balanced, the most complete form of love - "consummate love" exists. According to Sternberg, that hardly ever happens. Usually people emphasize one or two elements, resulting in these types of love: "infatuated love" (high passion, low intimacy and commitment), "empty love" (high commitment, low intimacy and passion), "romantic love" (high intimacy and passion, low commitment), "companionate love" (high intimacy and commitment, low passion), "fatuous love" (high passion and commitment, low intimacy), "liking" (high intimacy present, low passion and commitment), and "nonlove" (all three components absent).

Sternberg believes that in a particular relationship the components of love take different courses. For example, in a long-term relationship, level of passion goes down after it reaches a peak, but the level of intimacy keeps rising. And the two partners may not emphasize the same elements at the same time. For example, while one may seek mainly for passion, the other may seek for intimacy. For the relationship to be successful, the partners have to resolve their differences.

http://psychology.about.com/library/weekly/aa021500b.htm
 
Posted on 04-23-05 4:53 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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AeutiKT's reply to thees_keta
>>if you are in love then go for it.....enjoy the moment...what's there to lose right? :-D

UMMMMM...Girl! You can lose a lot when you are in love. You can lose virginity, dignity, prosperity, fertility( only for girls), loyalty ( old lovers tend to cheat source: www.cheaters.com) cruelty ,Did I mention virginity?, sometimes even sexuality (guys who love ugly girls tend to become Bisexual or Impotent), LAST BUT NOT LEAST love can kill you by ghati rety rety.

So, guys 'n girls never, I repeat, NEVER FALL IN LOVE.

Do you now why we know "being in love" as "Falling in love"?

That's because when you are in love, you really fall hard.

Peace out ( say NO to love)


 
Posted on 04-23-05 8:54 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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i'm a product of love and so are you..so why do we even question love..yep...i do seek unconditional love but i have so many condtions to be loved that being lovable and to be loved is two different situations..and i have loved been loved hated and been hated loved again loved a li'l loved more loved suffocatingly loved too lightly loved like an omellete and love like strawberries loved like the wet paint of rain summer breeze, sweet apple cider love..the overdose love..love that almost killed love who made me come into terms withe the life..for love i killed love..fulll moon light love kamasutra love puppy love lovely love..loved sick to death love the person till i was insane loved him to be insane insanely out of love..so deprived of love..harsh painfull love the biiter chocalte love..the fat chocolate love..the dream of love..one love..one hundred love...no love..forgettable love...
 
Posted on 04-23-05 9:47 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Again, hushpuppy get to the point, dude. don't play around with words.
 
Posted on 04-24-05 7:44 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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" LOVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!what is love ???????? as a matter of fact I dunno the meaning?.. I mean its vague, any one can define it in their own way. Its like liquid, which takes the shape of the container. So here container is the person who defines it.".....

YEA , luv is liquid . As it is said ,beauty lies in the eyes of beholder.....luv is just like that. the way u look at it the way u feel it it gets converted.. prem kaadaa ho kasaiko nimti ta kasai ko lagi sampurna jiwan ho. kasaiko lagi hasso ho ta kasaiko lagi aanshu...
well abt ur gal now.... AS u say ..u sacrified fr her a lot. but i dont find any sacrifies what did u sacrifies???? just that u bunked ur classes , changed ur tuition grp ..thats it.
sacrifies means to give up ur happiness fr the one u luv to make them smile . To give them ur life ur trust ur happiness ..to make two life one..

If u have told that gal abt ur feelings then u wouldnot have got rejected. u expected a llot . nd u failed in it, thats why u dont believe in luv.
AMONG FAITH ,HOPE ND LOV : THE GREATEST OF THERE IS LUV.

 
Posted on 04-25-05 11:55 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Here is a brand new edition of an old meditaion on Love from me. Can't have a better place to share.

Nepe


 
Posted on 04-25-05 12:15 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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well abt ur gal now.... AS u say ..u sacrified fr her a lot. but i dont find any sacrifies what did u sacrifies???? just that u bunked ur classes , changed ur tuition grp ..thats it.
sacrifies means to give up ur happiness fr the one u luv to make them smile
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Sami, bunking class is, u r bunking ur future. Have u ever done that. I am here talking bout schooldays not while studying in ASCOL. Changed my tuition group, i think u know how is it to be with frens and the commitment u need to keep the frenship going. Sacrifices means to give up ur happiness for the one u love to make them smile, woah, nice one, sami jee, happiness is the valuables are different in different stages of life ni hoina ra ?


NICE POEM NEPE DAJU.



 
Posted on 04-25-05 12:17 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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धेरै दिनपछि नेपेजी झुल्किनुभो साझामा । उहाँको गजलमा एक टुक्रा थपिदिन मनलाग्यो




 



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