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ImI,

show me a correlation between child labor and prostitution...what I mean is show me an inverse relationship between the two.
If you cant do that your logic holds no ground.

Heres a little fact for you. If you cant take care of your own house, may be you dont have a right to own it.

Folks, this is nothing but economic problem of the third worlds and of course in Nepalise society where many poor families had to depend on financial support even from their teenage daughters or boys. In Nepal or India many young children support their family business and families as a tradition to keep up their crafts and pass on to them to next generation. Yes, in the Western countries also many young boys or girls worked in the super market chain, fast food restaurant. Even worst, in a Christian permissive free society, many of them even prostitute themselves to the pedophiles to collect money for drugs. It has really surprised me that CNN would take such pain as if to take the moral high ground projecting poor girls or boys are the only victim. I certainly feel sorry for these children, as the other in this forum has rightfully pointed out, but I do not feel ashamed for this. In a poor country it certainly can happen. Yes, these children should be in the school and they should enjoy their childhood. But we need understand the motive here. The West called this “barbaric” and tag them under “Child labor” to destroy some culture and traditional craftsmanship which is passed on to generation. In the Western society the children from the broken families would ran away and mostly became the victim of sexual predators and became drug addicts. That is horrible. How many teenage girls get pregnant in the West? How many young boys are sexually abused? It is beyond our imagination.

Other motive is to portray such thing to discredit our Hindu culture and to legitimize their way of converting such unfortunate children to Christianity. Our problem that CNN can afford to show such thing but our media is not capable to project the unbelievable level of exploitation of Children both sexually and for economic compulsion in western society.

Vodega..correlation is not between child labor and prostitution.if you cannot corelate it ..hmm..i am surprised ..i thought you were good at it.
Anyways there is relationship between the circumstance , poverty and many poor people selling their kids for prostitution or forcefully indulging thier kids in these kind of activities.If you don't know these facts then i think you should better not talk.

I can say the same thing ..in idealogically i agree with you but practically i don't.
this is another fact for you Nepal is poor country ( i think you don't know that)
There was great part of child labor involved in USA ..don't have to go to far.

The same kind of thread was there long time ago too where i said:
we need to make sure they are treated nice, well paid, sent to school..and more stuff..I think with little effort if a kid who would never be able to go to school earns to go to school.what's wrong with that? If he/she is treated nicely and helping around in house ..
gets him good food ..whats wrong with that.Yes , he would have been free in his village but here the kid is learning and earning..this is bitter fact of life we need to accept that we come from poor country where families have even hard time to feed their chidren once a day!!!!!

And one more thing..Don't give me idealogical crap ..think practical and have practical solution.

Durga Prasad,

Child labor is NOT "some culture and traditional craftsmanship which is passed on to generation." Wake Up!

ImI,

For a second stop talking like a retard!
"Vodega..correlation is not between child labor and prostitution.if you cannot corelate it ..hmm..i am surprised ..i thought you were good at it.
Anyways there is relationship between the circumstance , poverty and many poor people selling their kids for prostitution or forcefully indulging thier kids in these kind of activities.If you don't know these facts then i think you should better not talk."

First you say theres no correlation then you say theres a relationship. Man, are you crazy or just plain stupid?

I have an alert setup in cnn for "nepal" and I got that message delivered to my email as soon as it was available to their site. It is very very sad to see bad news about nepal in the world's top media's site.

what i am saying you are not getting it(cause your are stupid ) or your are trying to act smart ass.i am not getting it!!

Anyways for a sec..
what i am saying is :There are so many poor people in Nepal.They sell their kids to such institution for money if not they send them away to work.They cannot afford them yet they produce them .There are no superman like you who come to rescue these poor kids.
This is not in all the scenario but cases are there .That is what i am saying.

Relationship -> poor family , no food -> labor or prostitution(some cases) or Thugs or hungry stomach..

Get it ..genius....don't say u again didn't understand .Now if u don't then..i will have to put you in the first category of my assumption.

oh yes ..you read ..my typo .sorry..yes there is corelation but the direct relationship exist between poverty and food(any sort of jobs for food).

Again idealogically ..i never said child labor is correct .

VincentBodega!

Your name says it all. Child labor accusation is ploy always made by the Western media to bash our society, even though they know very well that poverty compell many parents to push their kids in our society to work. Many children in jewelery business or in Carpet business in our country employ children not only for economic compulsion but to pass on this craftsmanship to the next generation unlike Western Christian socioety the children take job not exactly for poverty but because to run away from the broken home.They became sexuyally abused and drug addicts which is quite shameful.
Instaed CNN put that little poor Nepali girls story and try to paint it as social tradition, they should put the stories of the teenage girls in the West where millions are preganant by their step father or brother or neigbor or who knows by selling them cheap but they put that burden to the whole society. It is shameful, now Mr.Retad you try to wake up.

I agree with Boston girl. she is totally right and she has never said it is a good idea for child labor. These kids are getting help to tell you the truth. If their dads are selling them for $25, then what would their dad have done if they were at his house. Like boston girl said, they would most probably not treated like princess.

Why did freaking CNN doesn't talk about Bhutanese Refugee problems? people after living for 15th generation sent back to the country that is not their origin? why doesn't it go make a video clip in the brothels of india where girls are kept with force and forced to sleep with hundreds and thousands???

I think the illegal immigration issue is even worse than child labor in Nepal? there is invisible whip of poverty and there is ofcourse force. and no body gives them even minimum wage okay.. that that butrap or some guy said, tell me one think ahole, $900 a month in a state where minimum wage is more than 8 dollars, working 12 hours a day , 7 days a week ... how in the hell makes that minimum wage for an illegal labor???
or picking vegetables in the state of Cali for 25 years , out in the sun, at 2-3 dollars per hours, now how does that makes it a fair labor?

ImI,

There is no correlation between being poor and selling one's kids to prostitution. Sellings one's kids to prostition is not an outcome of being poor, rather its an outcome of lacking morality and love for one's kid. I understand both problems exist in a Nepali society, however to say that if you dont employ these kids as kaam garnes they will end up in brothels is plain ignorance. Your logic is based on fear of the unforseen future.

Durga Prasad,

The article talks about one simple fact. Rich people keeping little kids from poor economic background as workers in Kathmandu. Kaam garne is not a craft that has to be passed down from a generation to generation. You said that the western society uses child labor as a ploy to bash our society. WRONG! Its rather a ploy used by people like you to thrive upon people who dont share the same economic standing as you.


Dyamm,

There are other issues that are wrong in the United states as well. I can fill you a page with that. All those wrongs don't make the case of child labor in Nepal right. I understand you and your friend like the fact that these kids wouldnt be treated like princiness in their own homes. A home is a home even if you have starv away, it is still sweeter than any other place in the world. I bet you and your friend were not treated like a royalty growing up even though you didnt have to clean someone else's dishes. May be one doesnt need to be treated like a prince/princess in life.


It just got me thinking, how old are you guys? (yes, I didnt even feel like finishing my line of thoughts)

They are exaggerating the selling part. The fact is that lot of these village kids work for households in Kathmandu and they get some money to send home. That is not exactly 'selling'. Leave it to media to glorify and inflate non issues such as this.

Vincent, there is a big difference between selling girls for prostitution and having kids work for households for a minimum pay.

These kids are better off in the city anyways.
Back in the village, they could be recruited forcefully by the maoist anytime. They don't have access to enough food. They don't have easy access to water. They don't have access to information. They have to do a lot of manual hard labor such at in the fields.

In the city they have to work as well but they have access to better food than before. Better lifestyle than in the village. Most 'educated' families treat them well. Give them enough food and clothes and fulfill their needs. They have access to watch TV and learn more about the world. They have more opportunities in the city. They might even work for some restaurant part time.

This is a classic example of bloated industrialized BS. Remember those Malaysian workers in the NIKE plant in malaysia? Same difference. The workers work because they are better off than they were before. It would have been exploitation if it was done in the US where the playing field is pretty high and of course you're talking about thousands of dollars of per capita income versus couple of hundreds.

It's bull shiit to compare the standards of US or other developed countries to that of Nepal. You must be pretty americanized or westernized if you believe that the rest of the world needs to be judged by western standards.

It's all about economies of scale. In the US, illegal immigrants do the manual labors and get exploited. But when you consider the socio-economic aspect, these people are better off doing that than not doing it. And that is capitalism my friend.

Wow..look at the finger pointing in this board. We start a thread about a news report on CNN and at the end of the day we are after each others life. I am not running a 'favor-me' campaign here so it doesnt bother me if you dont agree with what I said. But at least make it a point to read the post and think what it is saying. I have no idea how you got the idea that i was favoring child labor (and stop calling them slaves! Just coz freakin CNN calls them that doesnt mean they are slaves, they are workers, under age workers..even if it is not by choice). And whoever had the courtesy to find me definition of slaves, thanks but no thanks. After seeing the definition, I would assume you would stop thinking that these girls are slaves because they are not sold for life, and if their parents want to take the kids home, no one is going to stop. Yes, it is bad to exploit these children...but the englightened folks out here who is so good at bad mouthing other posters, why dont you post alternatives and solutions instead???

Its frustrating that we complain about how western media shows only one side of the story and give Nepal a bad image. But almost everyone here do the exact same thing. You dont think about the other side of the story. And if you dont have good public system and infrastructure to lift the standards of these people, this will go on. You harp how its all black issue, throw out nasty words at other posters, request the FBI to solve the problems of Nepal, ask the sajha admin to change my name/kick me out..watever! You are just distracting yourself from the real issue of child labor in Nepal and indulging in showing off your cat fighting skills.

Did Bostongirl change her name to Powergal instead? I'm confused.

Looks like Dyam and the boys are using their retarded logic only to get Bostongirl's attention. HO? Otherwise, I don't see any other reason to be that stupid.

And for the record, media exaggeration is NOT an issue here. You're whining about how they "sold for $25'"when the truth is that you pay more bhanera? Or are you saying its not "exactly selling" just somewhat, and "not slavery" but child labor? TSK TSK TSK. Just be glad I don't work for the media yet. It is a freaking slavery and is ABfunkingSOLUTELY unacceptable given the current economical stats- Get that in your semi-retarded heads!

Ok Bug, fine..call them slaves if you wish but why dont you kindly tell us what you will do about it? You dont understand the difference between labor and slaves but I hope you have a much better idea that can help these kids live a better life. Tell us!

P.S. I have no idea who else you are referring to here, and dont blame fellow posters because they use more logic than you do. Frankly, you are the only one in this thread getting my attention, but in a very very very negative way.

i think the word "slave" is rude, i would better say them as a domestic helper. I am for the domestic helper who is above 13 or 14 but i am against below 10. I have seen domestic helper as young as 7, after seeing that i felt like i never did adult work like that when i was 7.

I don't think all of them will end up in prostituion, they can also learn lots of creative things, like cooking which is common and sewing if we send them for its training...thats good idea to teach them any one of these things because one day they can also work by themselves.

Hello! VincentBodega

First, this girl was sent to work out of poverty by her parents. It is not selling. Why are you hell bent to highlight that these children are being sold. Are you an agent or something? There is motive behind these types of article, which CNN does to bash our society, tradition, religion etc. If you are not BLIND you can see this pattern is being played by the western media like BBC, CNN, NYT over and over again.
Many of us we feel strongly that this kind of negative portrayal are nothing but to prepare to invite Christian Missionaries to come and save these children from so called bondage of their tradition. Millions of poor families in South Asia employ their Children out of dire poverty. This is very sad but how, they ,otherwise, will survive? Engaging mass scale prostitution like those teenage Girls and boys do in the Western Christian society?

Bostongirl,

I will tell you whats more frustrating than reading about "how western media shows only one side of the story and give Nepal a bad image." It is in our tolerance of child labor. I am not saying you are favoring, but you are not denouncing it either. I hope I read that correct. We can play this word games all day and night. I am sure you are good at it and I am sure I am not that bad either.

Have you guys ever thought of why there are not that many adult "helpers" (as someone so diplomatically put it) in the city. May be it is because if one keeps an adult helper, they will have to paid a realistic wage. Or may be because adults dont put up with a lot of emotional and physical torment that comes with this "charismatic" city life.

Heres an open invitation for those who've managed to tell me (unconvincingly of course) that they care of these kids: START GIVING BACK. All apologies if you already do so.

Durga Prasad,

You have to give up on this hobby of yours on fortune telling. Who knows whats going to happen tomorrow. Dont stop yourself short for the fear of tomorrow, which is unknown. The reality says that theres a imminent problem where the kids who are suppose to be the future of our nation is spending their youth in someone's kitchen. Do you feel safe with the thought that these kids might be called upon to run the nation tomorrow? Or even more realistically these kids will bear the future of the country. The problem is not as philosophical as some of you guys think. Its of more grave reality.

slavery is rooted deep into our culture. I'd say slaves are the ones having no power to hold on to their dignity. It's is our society that promotes the slavery. I find most people in sajha being slaves to the culture they were born in. It is the people who set the culture, yet the people who are "well-bred" in our society forget that they have power to change it!

" Slavery" is one of the many words media likes to use to grab attention in the western world. All the good people think it is bad in the west. The very good people who chained blacks, put them in the boats, brought them over here, made them work with whip, raped thier wives, killed their kids, forced them to work and bought and sold them like animals.
Now some of these very good people do not see correlation between being poor and starving. They don't see the relation of being poor and getting tempted to steal. They should go see the data in US jail how many rich " good " people are in the US jail compare to the poor people. And they should go see that in the world wide jails. Poverty is the trigger. Poverty triggers bad things. But they don't get it. They just don't get it.
Forget about child labor, forget about prostitution, talk about poverty - you good people living in the cozy apartments of the west. A dad , even i would , and trust me you would too if you were dirt poor , send our children to others home if they can eat there. If they can sleep their and not get raped by maoists or Army. Poverty, that can not feed the mouth, that is illetrate, that is insecure what the hell those parents supposed to do. They would rather have thier children live at someone else's house than strave at thier house in the village.
But you westerens just don't get it. you only want to think what you want to think, only want to believe what you want to. Can't even comprehend the real problems of the Nepali or any poor society of the world. You gives Aids and donations because that boosts your ego of being rich. You don't care if it reaches to the real needy or not.
You guys lack empathy, understanding of a society. You try to see the world from the sociology 101 book that you read , taught by the some " good" professor who owns cars and houses and steady pay check.
being rich and having a SUV is correlated or not? being poor and empty stomach is correlated or not.. hahaha...lucky bastards probably never had to work hard, or be poor, so they just don't get it...