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Posted on 02-27-07 12:27 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I am creating this thread here for second time.First time there was very little interest to share knowledge.
This thread is entirely for new and experienced Business Analyst,Business System Analyst and System analyst for adding point to their learning as well as experience curve.

Welcome all BA/BSA and SA to this forum:

Let's start with something easier:

There are three levels of requirements.

a. Business Requirements - High level objectives of the project which are recorded in the Vision and Scope Document

b. User Requirements - Task and facilities available to the end user recorded in the Use Cases.

c. Functional Requirements - Detailed listing out of each behavior that the software must exhibit. This along with the quality attributes and other non-functional requirements is documented in the Software Requirements Specification (SRS).

 
Posted on 02-28-07 1:44 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Finally this thread looks like a serious thread with serious people sharing there ideas with each other..
I have awuestion..
CAN COMEBODY ANSWER ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM AND COMPUTER INFORMATION SYSTEM??
HOW ABOUT CARREAR OPPORTUNITIES????
 
Posted on 02-28-07 1:50 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Ocenus ,you seem to have very good experience in FDD and TDD and you micht have involved in preparing FDD and TDD as Tech lead.
I would love to prepare FDD if Architectural Design Document and the Infrastructure Impact Assessment are written in way it is supposed to be.It is not hard to generate FDD if you have well defined Functional Requirement Document.FDD should provide clear picture of high level and low level requirements.
I think,TDD is prepared by a team of Data architect,developer and tech lead in most of company and role of BSA is just to validate transformation of FDD to TDD.(may be a few company have different approach to it)

Could you please share your experience in FDD and TDD?
 
Posted on 02-28-07 2:10 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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balbahadurji, you have raised very tuft question?Basically these two are academic terms.I may not be able to answer it properly.Let me try to distinguish these two from career perspective:

MIS basically deals with Decision Support System(DSS), Executive Information System and Expert System.These systems are built to help middle level and top level management in an organization to take decision for planned and situated work.So,I believe as MIS student,you are heading more towards management and you perhaps start your career as Project Manager or may be Business Analyst.
CIS basically deals with IT tool for Information management.So you are more into technical aspects of Information System.Perhaps, you start your career as Programmer,Data Modeller or may be technical BA.You may end up with Project Architect.
Iif you are MIS student you are more into transforming Information into Knowledge and deciding for further action and as CIS student you are using tools to build Information System.

I may be wrong.I would like to request expert to jump into this matter and make it more clear.
 
Posted on 02-28-07 2:11 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yes, I do plan on going for PHD; however, before PHD, I want to have the feel of market. A year or two experience won't harm, would it? And above all, I am little too tired of being broke all the time.

Hi_nanu, thanks you!

Keep rollin'
ChrisCornell
 
Posted on 02-28-07 2:14 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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ChrisCornell ,Sounds like a good plan.
Best of luck .
Thanks
 
Posted on 02-28-07 2:17 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thanks you bhayecha and I know erroneous appreciation does not look. So, here I am...

Thanks Hi_nanu !!

ChrisCornell
 
Posted on 02-28-07 3:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hi nanu where are you working dude?I want your comapny information I want to give it shot.Can you send me your employer information.
 
Posted on 02-28-07 3:37 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Gohtalo ,I don't think there is any opening in my company currently.I will let you know via sajha email if any opportunity comes up.If you specify the location you are interested in, I will certatinly forward any requirement drops into my mail box.

Sorry, I could not help you much.

Thanks
 
Posted on 02-28-07 3:50 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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hi_nanu, pls email me from sajha as well if u find out about any openings for IT jobs.
 
Posted on 02-28-07 6:52 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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That works I will readily accept if I get direct company job.I just want to avoid consultancy but I think its a bit difficult.

Have you guys work on web services WSDL,SOAP?
 
Posted on 02-28-07 6:54 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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How did you get job hi_nanu directly or through consultant
I have still couple of months to graduate so I can still wait
If something on ur team knows also let me know.
 
Posted on 02-28-07 11:34 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Umm let’s see... FDD known as functional design documents are "usually" and that is in our case prepared by the BA's. I work with Siebel and some SAP but not a whole lot, but they are both an every efficient ERP and CRM systems. Functional design documents do what they sound like, they take the businesses requirement and describes it as what they are suppose to do once placed in an application. A simple example could be if x consumer buys y product then he/she will be interested in b,c and d products also. Something like what amazon.com does at a very basic level; provide you with info on what other consumer who bought the same products you bought were interested in. Going into TDD's it specifies what needs to happen behind the application when x consumer buys y product and what needs to be triggered for the application to go and search for all the x consumers who bought product y and what else were these consumers interested in so the application can display the results saying "people who bought this also bought that". This is as far as I understand how FDD's and TDD's work at a very basic level, but every special industry has it's own requirements and this might differ. But coming back to an ERP or CRM systems, the so called "Drunken Sailor" days are over, which was when and IT Solutions firm could go up to a company and tell them what they needed, now it's as far as I can see vice-versa, it's the company that tells you ok this is what we want done and this is our budget. This is my experience.
 
Posted on 03-01-07 9:05 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thanks ocenus for your explanation with example.Yes,FDD and TDD together mirror what developer is going to do.

latoboy and Gohtalo,the company below normally have a lots of permanent openings and they will also sponsor H1b for few places but prefer green card for placement in city areas like Boston,NY,Chicago.You may want to try your luck.

http://cch.com/Career/
 
Posted on 03-01-07 11:20 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thanks send more if you find
 
Posted on 03-01-07 11:46 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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It was cool site I applied for dozen of them let me see the responses.
Thanks hi_nanu once again
 
Posted on 03-01-07 12:00 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hi everyone,
i am trying to get in this field too. gave a few interviews but so far, no success.
Can anyone help me with a few questions? to start out, how would you differentiate between business needs(requirements) and user requirements?
 
Posted on 03-01-07 1:01 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Is it possible to do one of these trainings as part of your internship (CPT) through your school ? Is there any problems otherwise?
 
Posted on 03-01-07 1:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Here is a very basic sample tech design for people trying to grasp some knowledge, hope it helps.

 
Posted on 03-01-07 2:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Gohtalo ,Please make sure that you have prepared good resume before applying.(I apologize,I did not write it before) and record where you have already applied.
ocenus : thanks for template.
live_wire : Business requirements and User requirements will be same if we are talking about any new product launch in existing system and Business Users/System users are using it.Business Requirement and user requirement will be slightly different if it is web based application and we are considering end users who are not a business users or system users.In second case, we will refine Business requirement writing use cases targetting end users along with Business users and will be validated by end user as well as Business Users.
- I think I could not explain well.Please somebody more experienced come and make it more clear.

Thanks
 
Posted on 03-01-07 3:17 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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business needs(requirements) and user requirements?

Users are part of the business right? You don't create BRD or FRD for 1 single user. Most of the time, user requirements within a particular group evolve into business req. Users of a particular internal group within a bigger IT umbrella might have business req to do something.
 



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