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trek
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Posted on 01-21-08 7:16
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Are there any churches around the Boston area Nepalese attend? Thanks.
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Harka_Bahadur
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Posted on 01-24-08 6:19
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NCP maoist converted people from rolpa and rukkum to maoist ideology. the same way cristians are converting people of bikat pahad to christianity. Maoist slogan to poor people of Pahad was "timi haaru sarbahara barga you have nothing to loose, if you win you have the whole world in front of you" similarly this christians especially this missinary people come to Nepal and do good things to convert people to christianity. wenever i meet this christians people anywhere in the world especially the khaires, they start marketing their relegion. Actually in my opinion anybody can choose their religion. People have the right for their own beliefs.. But one should not sell their religion, religion is not for selling. you cannot bye it it should come within you.. religion is not for buying and selling it is the inherited thing. ali dherai nai huna thalyo yaar aaba ta j hosh aafno bichar ho..
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MN_Nepali
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Posted on 01-24-08 6:35
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Harka_Bahadur you are right. Well we have bouns and chettries officially. They say they dont have. But can you all tell me why wasen't the black cardinal from Africa appointed the pope? they would rather take a NAZI to a black anytime. Don't say they don't have caste discrimination?
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Harka_Bahadur
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Posted on 01-24-08 6:50
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MN Nepali i have seen some converted christians in Nepal.. one of my neighbour were also christians.. they
never used to eat anything that we cooked in our pooja.. when i asked them what was the reason behind it
they said that they have been told by their father not to eat of others religious offerings.
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MN_Nepali
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Posted on 01-24-08 8:09
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That is true and we are much more secular then them to start with. I don't mind going to church and even praying because I know my place and by beliefs. No other religion can take it away from me. At the same time I don't go around people forcing them into my religion and I don't have any problems if they want to believe in it. I don't mind thanksgiving turkey or spending a Christmas with Christians (and at the same time, I don't expect them to celebrate dashain and tihar either). Bottom line: I am ready to respect them as long as they have a mutual respect for us. Why they cant be somewhat sensible in the 21st century? AND
Rewire Writing in bold does not intimidates me. We are discussing an issue, please do discuss. The only way you can change my opinion (which I am open to) is answering my questions above (and writing in bold and intimidating language has nothing to do with it.)
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Rewire
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Posted on 01-24-08 8:39
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MN, there's nothing to discuss with people like you who hallucinate and bring irrelevant issue. You mentioned crimes, drugs, sex, Muslim above. What is that to do with what we're discussing? Where did the issue of Muslim come on this discussion? If you want to go back that far, did you know we're all African, let's go that far. Human being originated from Africa, so we're not Nepali. We're African. See what I mean. It's dumb.You implied that crime will only happen with Christian faith, and rest of the other factors too. With that type of thinking in your head, I feel sorry for you. I do not want to discuss with you. Good luck. बौला मानà¥à¤›à¥‡ सà¤à¤— शीबजी पनी डराऊछ
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MN_Nepali
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Posted on 01-24-08 8:53
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Well if you could not understand the question thats being discussed then you shouldn't have stepped in. Thats fine. I respect your opinion. I don't mind the concept of being from Africa and I am ready to be that provided the people who are trying to covert accept it. That would definitely end the topic.
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dautari
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Posted on 01-24-08 10:15
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Missionaries who help others under the condition of conversion to Christianity are not real Christians - as far as I am concerned. I converted out of my own will. I did not talk to any missionaries. Jesus did not discriminate nor did he demand that a person be his follower in return for his miracles. He even healed a Roman centurion's boy-servant and cure a royal official's son. But many missionaries have been "spreading the word" conditionally - which I consider wrong. This kind of misinterpretation of holy teachings has been happening in other faiths too - hindus and muslims for example. I am talking about the extremists. Like the ones who did not eat the offerings at Harka Bahadur jee's pooja. I knew someone who refused to accept tika from his own family after he converted.
I celebrate dashain, bhai tika etc but for me those are social festivals. And the rituals don't have religions meaning to me anymore but I am a Nepali too and dashain ko tika and bhai tika from my sister means consolidating my ties with my Hindu relatives and friends.
Once I had a debate with an Indian Christian regarding my views. He claimed that "yoga" would be unchristian becasue "yoga" came from "yog" which was a Hindu name for a Hindu ritual. But he claims to have actually met Jesus when he went for "tapasya" in the jungle. After that I distanced myself from that individual - may God forgive me for that.
I may not follow many of the church's doctrines but let's not forget that neither did a certain German monk in early 16th century and his name was Martin Luther.
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MN_Nepali
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Posted on 01-24-08 10:25
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Well Luther started his own church, which does discriminates. I don't think u'd ever see a black guy in there. Its growing into another form of Hinduism in itself. And FYI --technically Hinduism does not outsiders to convert. There is Hare Krishna for them. (Of course not my opinion)
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dautari
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Posted on 01-25-08 6:33
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There is no church that closes its doors to a person based on his color or nationality. Anyone can go to a church and pray - even a non-Christian. A couple of years back my church invited two muslim scholars to the church and talk about muslim philosophy.
yes, Hinduism is the only major religion which does not accept new "converts". Hindu authorities do not regard the Hare Krishna followers as Hindus. Hindus refused to officially recongnize Mick Jagger's marriage to Jerry Hall in a temple in Bali, Indonesia. In order to be a Hindu, someone has to be born to Hindu parents - something that the individual does not have any control over.
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