Hinduism is the most democratic of all forms of worship in the world. That is why there are so many branches with Hinduism and a hindu is free to choose his own line of worship.

Hinduism cannot not be defined as a religion as is practised in the west. In the eastern culture sages have devised and preached the way of living. Be it Hinduism, Buddihsm or other chineese,persian culture the way of living is of great importance.

Hinduism does not seek to gather large groups of people in order to impress them. Hinduism is a private affair of each of its practitioners. Each individual has to find his/her own way of living. The sages and their writings guide us in our endeavours.

The hindu writings in the form of puran, ved, and epics such as "MahaBharat" and "Ramayan" seek to guide us in choosing the right path.

The caste system is another interesting aspect of Hinduism. Hinduism has 4 major castes and at one time people were free to go from one caste to another. It is just like changing jobs in todays world.

But with the passage of time some unscrupulous and powerful people made the caste system rigid disallowing an individual in changing his/her caste. And while people could be demoted to the so-called lower caste the reverse was not possible. The original Hinduism did not classify people into high class or low class but just into caste system.

The western missionaries and muslims have tried to exploit this misunderstanding to their own advantage to increase their own ranks.

Even today we notice that if a son takes on the job of the father it is more likely that s/he will succeed. This was specially true at that historical time when the system of education was different. People have started to realize that that system is better than the present imported western education.

Mr Dhaka Topi,
Before you start talking bulsht just look at what you wrote. Just like you have the fking freedom to express yoself I fking have that right too. Just look at your pathetic posting...it just speks for itself. Which moron in the world would even attempt to think that Hindism is the best religion in the world. What you are doing ma fren is what we call talking outta yo ass. If you are educated which I assume you are then you would not be writing such stooooopid statements. Your monolithic veiw of the world religion just show where your intellect is. And your analogy of that push and pull would not even make sense to a 5yr old foget adults.
I don't give a horse's ass if someone reads this or not..I am not here to impress anyone or kiss anyone's ass. Everyone has the right to express themselves, argue with point they don't agree. This is the World wide web after all...it is where poeple agree and disagree. And if you cannot take criticism or suggestion then do not even go there aiiight. But if you chicken out and cannot counter argue with the argument put forth to you and back off and admit you are as claimed by others a chicken. AAAIIIIGGGHT !!!!

Mr yohan,
I was born Buddhist but I refuse to believe in any religion. They are just like La Cosa Nostra.... Organized and vicious. Look at any organized religion in th world they are all corrupt. $$$$ is the language almost any religion in the world would promptly respond to. Hinduism has corrupt pujari, Buddhists have corrupt Monks, Christians have Corrupt priests, Moslems have corrupt Mullas We can go on and on. They are all humans just like you and me. They all make mistakes. There is no god but there is you..You are in charge....Good or bad... your choice and the consequences you will face with Your actions(god cannot help you in that)

Hello people,

Every one is talking "feeling" there is no "content" of thought! Where is the �pipal ko bot� Nepali intellectual thought?

Religion is a serious business. Believers and non-believers are all affected by the direct or non-direct impact of religion in their lives.

It is a ridiculous statement to say that a religion is corrupt. How can religion be corrupt? Religion preaches honesty, respect, love and appreciation among other things.

Only pessimists blame others for their problems. You can go ahead and blame religion for all your problems but just know that you are �way out of line� and �dead wrong�.

You have a religion. THat religion is called "I". You worship yourself. You think that there is nothing and nobody that is greater than you. I can visualize a boy in his late teens or earlier twenties who thinks like that.

As you grow older and wiser you will realise that there are forces greater than you.

You are egoist too. Your sentence "I was ...but I refuse .." point out to your large ego. Let go of your ego because it won't take anywhere.

I must admit that this is a growing trend among the youth of our country. They have been raised in a diet of western and indi TV channels. This doze of anything goes and moralless society that the tvs depict has infused a distrust in us of the religion of our elders. We no longer respect our fathers,mothers or teachers. This is a sign of degradion our country has been facing and the symptoms show up as maobadi,Limbuwan, Khumbuwan etc.

I must admit that foreign missionaries have played their part well. They have succeded in instilling their phylosophy into the vulnerable minds of the misguided youth of today whose parents too are responsible for all this.

The above message is for koko and his like-minded-friends.

Om!

to preach honesty, respect, love and appreciation among other things, we don't need religion, we can preach them without religion , these things are their without religion. Religion is corrupt because it divide the people, don't let accept other belief, people are kept in dark in the name of religion and some clever people use the name of religion to use innocent people and kill innocent. lot of people lost their life in its name. so wake up. don't stay in dark. just preach honesty, respect ,love and appreciation but no religion please. no division....

Mr Dhaka Topi,
Yes I do have a religion that is I, Me. If I do anything wrong I will face the consequences. I am not going to hide out in some temple or church or mosque or stupa and ask for gods forgiveness. Your so called god is not going to help you...but you would like to think he would though. As they say if you want to Dance you have to listen to the music(facts)....
This is all a learning process. As you progress in any learning process you throw out the things that don't make sense(Logic and reasoning). Eg you dropped a glass of milk on the floor. By praying to god neither that milk nor that glass is going to come back. Same with preparing for exams...if you don't study you don't pass... regardless of how hard you pray. Its got nothing to do with western diet or indi channels. If you reboot your brain you would understand what I am talking about. There are many aspects of like out there... it all depends upon what perpective you are looking through.
Thanks to those foreign intellects.. that today we know whats out there. Otherwise we would still be stuck in Stone Age. And if it weren't for those foreigner you would not even be speaking this language here and now. And you are so eager to play the blame game too. Why blame the parents ?....

Mr. I,Me

I, unlike U, take no pride in having to use this language. I would prefer speaking and writing in Nepali, my mother tongue.

Following others won't ever put you in any privileged position. You might know that "Most Japanese don't speak English." Same for the french and spanish people. All of them developed.

While I am fully capable of answering your every query, I would invite other sajhites to answer you. I would want more people to be involved in this. May be start their own threads.

Just claiming to be a Hindu and doing nothing about it won't make us a Hindu. We must actively think about it. Mental contemplation is what is needed.

Mr Dhaka Topi,
I do not see language as a mean for anything other than a mean to communicate with others. More communicate, more knowledge and information. I don't know where pride comes to play here. I don't take pride in any language....its just a medium( I have no clue where that pride came from).
Who am I following again ? I don't think I mentioned that I was following anyone or anything ?" Most Japanese don't speak English, " Most French don't speak English too what's your point ? Language=Communication
So where are the responses if you are sooo capable ? Seems like the talk out yo ass as all gas. Now ye need support from others ? Cannot handle your own ?
Sooo think and respond pal .....not this scaterbrain nibbling here and there but nowhere way of thinking. What are you mentally contemplating about ?

Hey ko ko na jasto,

Mr DhakoTopi is right. You are an egoistic,self-serving,argument-seeking, nincompoch.Bug-off will ya!Shove-OFF will ye.

Imagine

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.


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Writen by: John Lennon

hi,
couldn't stop replying to this interesting thread.
just an opinion to drop in the sea of knowledge and emotions -
i think mr. koko will realize in the long run that he is after some concrete philosophy and
i am confident that he will find the evident and utlimate truth and beauty of hinduism one day. only the knowledgeble knows this truth and i am sure he is wise enough to explore it and get there one day. aum. tatsa.kalyan bhabatu. sarbam mama.
hahah, you know what this is making me laugh coz i don't know sanskrit too much but am just trying to communicate here, sorry if this sounds a little too ancient. but it's the evergreen truth - believe it. or you lose and realize it much much later only. namaste.

I am a Hindu by birth, agnostic by choice. Frankly speaking, all this talk of demon worship and rituals is just nonsense to me. Whether someone chooses to worship God or the Devil is the person's own business. One mans god might be another man's devil. I personally dont think either exists. Christianity and Hinduism both have good and bad sides and neither is better or worse in totality compared to the other.

However, I am of the opinion that Hinduism, as practiced in Nepal is not of a very democratic nature. The caste system and the whole idea of the King being a re-incarnation of Vishnu have actually harmed and not helped the democratization of Nepalese society. But I do admit that the relatively tolerant nature of Nepalese hinduism has been a very strong plus point in preserving ethnic harmony in Nepal. I think many Nepalese would like to see a secular Nepal that is compassionate, tolerant,diverse and just. Fighting over religion will not get us there.

While Teaching My Daughter To Read Maps
Vijaya Malla

Boundaries are here drawn with sanguine blood
Like ridges raised around the farms
Look! around the expanses of each and every nation
This is India, this is Pakistan,
And this is the line sublime
Soaked in blood of the Hindu and the Mussulman.
This is Germany, this is England,
This is Russia, this is Japan,
And there are Nagashaki and Hiroshima
Ravaged by atom bomb!
This is the skeleton of Europe,
Haunted by Hitler's ghost.
This is America,
The nation of dollars,
The inventor of atom bomb,
And message of peace.

Look anywhere you like,
You will see the blood sanguine making an enclosure
Where-in the men are imprisoned
Like pigeons shut in a cage.
Daughter dear!
(A day will come)
When all will join together,
Holding hands,
Bound in an embrace tight -
The Negroes, the Aryans, the Mongols,
The Polynesians, the Dravidians and the Kols,
Everything is wiping out,
Turning their eye-cups upside down,
Those lines of blood
With their tears..

Then ,
After ages -
Some day will come
When inspite of searches long
You won't find these red lines there.


Translated by: anonymous

(1) Danger Tool for corruption:
A pundits (Priest) do cultivate land or farming anything, he just read old conservative philosophy and do daily practices based on book. He goes to poor and desperate framers home and asks for pray to good for good health and wealth. Then, Priest asks farmer to give healthy cow, bulls, gold, money, textiles and food to donate him as god's will or make happy to god. And poor farmer do whatever priest asked for. Farmer already poor but these activities make him the poorest.

(2) Evil and Dirty theory: In Hindu, religion you have to do sacrifice to different animal to different gods and goodness. There is no animal right. There is no civilization. You have to pray to "Shiva Ling". Shiva means (God of creator and destroyer) and Ling means " male sexual organ ". This is not ethical practice. In holy festival Thij, all women have to go to Pashupati and will pray in Indian Jogies and yogi's pennies.

(3) Unrealistic: In Hindu holy books, written in what yogis or priests thought that is god or goodness. If you read Hindu holy book, you can find all kind of flying, killing, fighting, kidnapping, Rapping, looting etc.

(4) Creation of corrupted Social and culture:
In Hindu religion culture, Farmer must do only cultivate land and only do farming. Farmer must not go to school and read book, and must not learn read and write. So the truth is that if farmer and lower poor people go to school and learn read and write means, Priest will loose income.

(5) No democratic, No human/ animal right, No equality, No justice:
In Hindu religion, women must not go to school. If she goes to school, she will be witch. Women only do serve as a housewife. Man and women are not equal right. Whatever holy book say is truth and right, beyond that is not right, that will be evil or bad. Discourage for scientific or modern development. There is no democratic right, equality and justice.

(6) Nonsense Religion practice:
In Hindu Religion, Only priest or his family can read holy book. Propaganda, " If other cast or other people read book, they will be sick or happen bad for them." So other people or must of the Indian or Nepalese people who are belief Hindu religion they do not know about actual Hindu religion. They never ever see the holy book or read the holy book. This is 100% true. This is nonsense religion practice. In Christian religion, everybody read bible, even they distribute free books and encourage them to read and talk about bible in church.

(7) Blind, conservative and backward education practice:
Most of the Hindu people do not know about fact about Hindu religion and what is all about. They just follows the what priest say to them. You can find a lots of fairy tales. Nobody read holy books and understood the facts about religion. This is just Blind religion. This is very conservative religion that you can't touch holy book because you are not belong to that cast or person. Hindu religion concept is very dominating and ruling to society. So priest can control to other people in society in the named of religion and God. This is totally and pure no democratic religion and cultural practice.


Conclusion: Hindu religion's based on pure no democratic, unrealistic, unethical, conservative, corrupted religion, corrupted social and culture practices. So we can obviously whoever practice Hindu religion that people, society or country are backward. That's way western people or western countries developed faster and faster. And Hindu people proud to go to western country and serve and die there. Hindu people think western country is heaven and land of opportunity. Think and understand why western are good and why Hindu are the worst?

(1) Danger Tool for corruption:
A pundits (Priest) do not cultivate land or farming anything, he just read old conservative philosophy and do daily practices based on book. He goes to poor and desperate framers home and asks for pray to good for good health and wealth. Then, Priest asks farmer to give healthy cow, bulls, gold, money, textiles and food to donate him as god's will or make happy to god. And poor farmer do whatever priest asked for. Farmer already poor but these activities make him the poorest.

(2) Evil and Dirty theory: In Hindu, religion you have to do sacrifice to different animal to different gods and goodness. There is no animal right. There is no civilization. You have to pray to "Shiva Ling". Shiva means (God of creator and destroyer) and Ling means " male sexual organ ". This is not ethical practice. In holy festival Thij, all women have to go to Pashupati and will pray in Indian Jogies and yogi's pennies.

(3) Unrealistic: In Hindu holy books, written in what yogis or priests thought that is god or goodness. If you read Hindu holy book, you can find all kind of flying, killing, fighting, kidnapping, Rapping, looting etc.

(4) Creation of corrupted Social and culture:
In Hindu religion culture, Farmer must do only cultivate land and only do farming. Farmer must not go to school and read book, and must not learn read and write. So the truth is that if farmer and lower poor people go to school and learn read and write means, Priest will loose income.

(5) No democratic, No human/ animal right, No equality, No justice:
In Hindu religion, women must not go to school. If she goes to school, she will be witch. Women only do serve as a housewife. Man and women are not equal right. Whatever holy book say is truth and right, beyond that is not right, that will be evil or bad. Discourage for scientific or modern development. There is no democratic right, equality and justice.

(6) Nonsense Religion practice:
In Hindu Religion, Only priest or his family can read holy book. Propaganda, " If other cast or other people read book, they will be sick or happen bad for them." So other people or must of the Indian or Nepalese people who are belief Hindu religion they do not know about actual Hindu religion. They never ever see the holy book or read the holy book. This is 100% true. This is nonsense religion practice. In Christian religion, everybody read bible, even they distribute free books and encourage them to read and talk about bible in church.

(7) Blind, conservative and backward education practice:
Most of the Hindu people do not know about fact about Hindu religion and what is all about. They just follows the what priest say to them. You can find a lots of fairy tales. Nobody read holy books and understood the facts about religion. This is just Blind religion. This is very conservative religion that you can't touch holy book because you are not belong to that cast or person. Hindu religion concept is very dominating and ruling to society. So priest can control to other people in society in the named of religion and God. This is totally and pure no democratic religion and cultural practice.


Conclusion: Hindu religion's based on pure no democratic, unrealistic, unethical, conservative, corrupted religion, corrupted social and culture practices. So we can obviously whoever practice Hindu religion that people, society or country are backward. That's way western people or western countries developed faster and faster. And Hindu people proud to go to western country and serve and die there. Hindu people think western country is heaven and land of opportunity. Think and understand why western are good and why Hindu are the worst?

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