bob marley,

dhero aakrosit hunu pardaina... why are you trying to drop f-- words here..don't be a jerk and start badmouthing now.. Aren't we just trying to discuss the topics here..

Okay now let's get to the point.

I have never said I liked Sai Baba or have followed him or believe he is a god.

I am just trying to suggest that you can't judge people based on they worship Sai Baba or not.

Leadership= do you really know the meaning of this and in how many different context it can be used? community= not equal to nepal. try to go to dictionary.com and look for its meaning first.

Lastly, you have to learn to respect and listen to your elders. You will be surprised how many good things you can learn from them.

And don't try to change others. Change yourself first and be an example. Others will follow.

I always knew sai baba was fake, but still put all those bibhuti or so called tika on my forehead for some faith in him somehow. So what happened to him now? Does anyone have any idea????

Mohit,

outdated topic..the video is like so many yrs old alrdy'...why even talk about him when noone believes about him in here..the only thing i nvr can understand is how did the bibhuti  use to come out from his picture at Nepal when he was in India..weird shit.:D:D i didnt see any body do magic that time. the thingy was just falling off from the picture . explain that now. tho i dont believe on him.

Sai baba healing people can be considered miracle similar to doctor's doing heart transplant and giving people new life can be considered miracle.

Kanchhu!

I don't know how your logic works... By the way if you are talking about arguments against religion, most of them are against the Abrahamic religions like Christianity, Judaism or Islam. Hindu religion is rarely being attacked in those arguements against God. May be you are not aware of The Aethist Movement.

Further why you have to take offense when someone is saying something about someone else and is providing his logic. I don't believe in Sai Baba as you do. I commend him for generating so much donations and doing some work for poor and needy people so he has done some good using whatever his tricks are but I Don't regard him as God or superbeing.

Further Sai Baba was not mentioned in any Hindu Scripture anywhere. Anyone claiming to start a sect surely needs a follower like you to sustain.

Britain is rather more secular country with almost 45% people not believing in God. It is good to respect your culture but it is foolish to be blinded by faith so much that you can't even use your brain.

 

“We godless lack that certainty, and we know the world is a complex place that requires compromise and is not ruled by a moral force — virtue is subject to negotiation, and is found in working together with others to find mutually satisfactory solutions. Good is not absolute, it is an emergent property that arises from successful networks of individuals. It is also something that is measured by evidence: we look at the good that people do, not the promises that they make and never keep, or the lies that dovetail nicely into dogma. Competence is a virtue. Intent is meaningless without action.”

I do not want to hurt any Sai Baba believers here in Sajha. But after watching the video clips I felt that Sai Baba is a dishonest magician because he does magic but does not confess doing so unlike real magicians tell that they simply perform the magic. Clearly, in a vidoe he did not even open his mouth enough to get the golden object out of his mouth; there is no doubt that the object was already in his hand wrapped by a cloth piece; but he claimed that he produced it from his mouth and his follower believe it. Having said that, I think he is a good person and has inspired many people to achieve success, helped treat diseased people and helped achieved peace of mind, etc.

To All Believers

Just because we don't yet understand something, does that mean it's magical?

To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today.

Dafe

You do not seem to undesrtand the full extent of my story. Put yourself in my shoes. For more than 2 decades, I've sat on the floor with my legs crossed and chanting millions of "Hindi" Vhajans, even though deep inside of me there was the sense of discomfort, disbelief and uncomfortableness, while being pressured by families/friends by their never ending "Ohm Sai Ram" greetings. I think I'm entitled for few "F" words after going through all those trauma of wasted years. So for you to say "dhero aakrosit hunu pardaina" is simply disregard to my story, it is easy for you to say.

"Change yourself first and others will follow" re....I'm telling you my story where I've changed my faith going againt my family beliefs, I think it is atleast a small change. What about you? Easy to say things.

Look, I've nothing against you and your faith. Choose whatever suits you. I hope your hard earn cash (where ever you are) that you sent to your parents goes to Puttaparthi, maybe towards the budget for their toilet paper, may your names be engraved on each sheet of the roll, may your parents see more miracles at his Ashram. Good luck.

 

For all those who are mezmerized by a simple tricks, these videos might helpful. Be sure to see all the video.Please do share them with your parents. Magic is a perfectly explainable art which deals with human perception and psychological aspects with well designed gears and lots of practise.

https://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bryamu&view=videos

Adios

 

 

I went through comments, posted my comments as well..but folks did not seem to have got my point, rather most of them presenting unitary thought, for and naturally against Sai baba. Some of them treated me as if I favor sai ram. some think follower of sai  are just some kind of shit minded innocent and those who does not believe his are " the most intelligent erudite". 

Some one however has rightly said " doing good deed does not take away from the fact of him being cheap magician"- I agree 100%. It does not and it should not. Nor I am at the any stage of denial that he is not a magician, HE IS and HE IS NOT A GOD OR ANYKIND THAT IS FOR SURE.

But again, big BUT, why he is being ONLY attacked, by mostly WESTERN MEDIA. Vatican where most rape cases happen, often linked wtih popes and bishops, why those things are not brought into public notice and talked about? Trying to put things into persepective here, if sai's and follower of sai's have done some good work or yeilded some good results in the society ( society which is made cheaters, hypocrites , criminals..along with some good people) you should have audacity to accolade those activities. If you look at otherside of the worl, where millions are being killed in wars, millions are victim of HIV, millions are victim of criminals, millions are deprived from food /health and shelter...then if SAIISM has yeilded some good, do you have the capacity to overlook his flaw or not? that is only my point. You people tend to present your argument as if you think 100% pure and as if you are milk bathed-

As for him being alleged as pedhophile or some sort of sexual abuser, well you can not prove just because some white guy appears in documentary and alleged him. HE MAY BE OR MAY NOT BE, BUT YOU NEED TO PROVE IT. you can also make COUNTER ARGUMENT.

AND AGAIN THERE ARE MORE FOLLOWERS OF HIM THAN CRITICIZERS! YEAH THEY MAY BE FOOL INNOCENT OR CROOKED  BUT AS FOR ME AS LONG AS SAI CONTINUE DOING SOME SOCIAL WORK AND HELP PEOPLE I DO NOT CARE HOW HE MAKES MONEY! WE ALL PAY MONEY FOR STREET MAGICIAN, SOME CALL HIM GOD LET THEM DO!

I dont have any concern whether sai baba is god or not. He has done some good things to people which i think is good aspect of him. But my concern is why these western Media have concern towards him or hindu religion. I was watching T.V...a national  television chanell of US had some religous programme goin on...They were fully attacking other religion. One guy was telling a story about a man who was drowning in a ocean and was shouting for help. According to him, he prayed ALLAH to rescue him.Then some hindu gods to resucue him. But  he got no help. He ,finally, prayed jesus and ,acording to that guy,as soon as he said the name of Jesus,he came out of water and he got his life back...Atleast hindus dont say bad to other religion even  though they think they are superior than others. 

Kanchu!:

So long he keeps on doing social good works.. you don't care?? ha ha.. ha ha.. even if he is screwing your ass???? what the fuging kind of logic is that of yours? Are you insame or what?

If you are a Gay.. then I take back above sentences...

Ved555 aka VEDA,

read my comments first and try to understand as you do not have depth to analyze, which is apparent as your name suggests!

where is the proof of him screwing your ass??? just becoz one khaire said ?

What if the same khaire is the gay and paid by some anti sai anti hindu (western world) to say the thing he said in documentary?

grow up kid!

 

i dont even want to write his name. He is none other than fake magician who is calling himself god. I dont care if there are millions of followers in India but please Nepalese bro and sis dont even believe and follow him.   I hate that guys from my childhood and i dont make friends whi follows him.Indian governmnet should hang him till death.

Hey Kanchu!: Lok at least he is a magician.. there's red hand evidence of it with high-tech cameras these days... so no doubt about that... May be he is screwing your ass badly.. but because of his magics you are not aware of... the leaves in the tree would not move without wind...  So insert the toothbrush into your own ass.. and brush your teeth.. and probably with his magic you will get the free laal Dhanta Manjan Daabar Chhap Manjan... blind faith only leads to your ass being screwed by that Baba... ha ha ha

dumb ass veda, fed up with community college and gas station job! if so read my all the comments and try to understand what i tried to imply. and where in a earth i mentioned he is not magician? u dumb ass..does not have depth then do not come here to comment! go to grad school at least to be able to comment here!

Chill out Kanchu.... don't go after Baba.. just trying to warn you... don't fall prey to Baba's magic... I don't want another Nepali being mis-used by the Baba.. So stay cool.... kick ass of Baba... OK?

Wooouuuuu!! Here comes maaseiah Ved555. "wants to save another Nepali being misused by the Baba". Dumbass, which Nepali has Baba ever used and when? Just talk about cigarello and black & mild. That's your field. Don't mess with rest.