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Posted on 10-01-09 8:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I just received a text from Nepal saying "Namrata Shrestha" commit sucide. Try to ring Nepal but no body knows it... is it true or just rumor.


 
Posted on 10-02-09 5:08 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Namrata needs from the sensible mass a compassionate brush-off for a minor bad judgment/carelessness and a passionate support for her moving on with her life and intact career.


Unfortunately, the Gorkhe misogyny looks rampant.


I would ask San to delete all threads related Namrata in Sajha. That’s a small sensible thing we can do here.


 


विवेकशिल नेपाली बन्धुहरुले यस बखतको कर्तव्य के हो भने नम्रता बहिनीको एउटा सानो त्रुटीलाई लिएर नारीविद्वेषी गोर्खेहरुले जुन हंगामा मच्चाईरहेछन् त्यसलाई लोप्पा ख्वाएर हुन्छ कि कुम उचालेर हुन्छ कि दुरुत्साहन गर्दै नम्रताको आफ्नो व्यक्तिगत र पेशागत जीवन सामान्यतापूर्वक जारी राख्‍न समर्थन गर्नु ।


नारीविद्वेषी गोर्खेहरुको हंगामालाई दुरुत्साहन गर्न यो विषयका साझाका सारा थ्रेडहरु मेटिदिन सानजीलाई अनुरोध गरौं । यो एउटा सानो सुकाम हुनेछ हाम्रो ।


 


Nepe   


 
Posted on 10-02-09 8:07 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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SAN delete this thread. You wont lose that much ad revenue just by deleting this thread. Everybody have some social responsibility. THIS TOPIC IS TOTALLY NONSENSE!!!

 
Posted on 10-02-09 11:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Please delete this thread,, right now.....

It's a sin to gain some revenues using nonsense threads.... please get out of this greed thing... DELETE THIS THREAD !!!

 
Posted on 10-03-09 12:44 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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As soon as there is any controvertial threads in sajha, it is
interesting how people are quick to point their fingers at the ad
revenues.

I would like to take this opportunity to point out that a single thread
like this or few threads with controvertial topic in no way affects the
ad revenues in sajha. Advertisers pay on a per month basis -
independent of how many threads are viewed how many times by how many
users. Hence, please be informed that sajha does not gain any revenues
because of threads like these. Sajha has been online for nearly a
decade now and advertisers are not paying for cheap thrills but for the
stability and the trusted platform that sajha has been providing for
many years.

As far as controversial topics are concerned, they come and go and are
part of a public forum where anything is open for discussion - as long
as few basic rules of respect are followed. If we look at the bigger
picture, these controversial topics are not what sajha thrives on. Sajha is
more about helping each other out and most of us who have been with
sajha for years and years know this fact.

When personal boundaries of propriety is crossed, then, as a moderator
I have to be responsive to protect an individuals privacy so as to
minimize any negative effect it may have on the potential victim. If
sajha forums are used to defame a private individual, then it is my
duty as a moderator to make sure I remove such content upon
notification. Sajha is not here for cheap publicity and as I have
stated sajha does not benefit financially from such cheap publicity.

As an informed internet user, I am sure that you can imagine what kind
of content could have been introduced within sajha in order to increase
the hits if that was the most important thing for sajha. I do not want
to increase any hits by using any cheap tactics. I do not have big
visions for sajha, I just want it to be able to help out people here
and there who share helpful information with each other.

Since users are able to post freely, there will be all sorts of
postings depending upon the posters' personalities. Some will be of
controvertial nature but with time things always cool off. Sajha does
not encourage any controvertial topics but will normally let them run
their natural course into oblivion, just like any other topics, unless
notified.

Having said all this, I want to get back to the topic at hand.
Namrata's scandal did not originate in sajha. It was covered by many
national and international media before it arrived in sajha. As sajha
is a site where people discuss about things and ideas related to Nepal,
I think it's only natural that people discuss the news that's all over
national and international news. It is comparable to the Nepali Govt
banning people from talking about Namrata under the Peepal bot in Nepal
- specially when it's all over the news. In my opinion, it does not
make sense to remove the discussions on Namrata from sajha - there is
too much out there already. People are only discussing what's out there.

Again, if this was something that originated from sajha or had the
potential of originating from sajha to a wider audience, then I can
understand the need to remove it ASAP and I would be happy to comply.

Few weeks back there was a thread in which someone wrote some girl in
texas slept with her boss. This may not be an acceptable social
behaviour but it does happen. I didn't see any importance of having to
delete a thread discussing such behaviour in generic terms, but once
names started flowing into the thread, I quickly deleted it before it
could negatively impact the involved person in any way. Sajha is not
here to hurt anyone.

The issue of Namrata's video being leaked is unfortunate for her, her
family, and maybe even for the guy involved. Unfortunately it is all over Nepali
media, indian media and even some international media. For us to delete
it from sajha would have zero impact. Some may feel good about it being
deleted coz they asked it to be deleted. But would it have any impact on
what Namrata has to go through? I don't think so!

My 2 cents.
 
Posted on 10-03-09 3:42 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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San ji:


 


Agreed. This rumor was not originated from Sajha..so, let it be.


 
Posted on 10-03-09 5:39 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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but the suicide rumor originated in sajha

 
Posted on 10-03-09 11:31 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I do not agree with SAN. User's request was ONLY to delete this false and hopeless thread  Namarata Shtestha commit sucide ??
 
Posted on 10-03-09 11:48 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Also, wherever, however -- or who may have -- started the original gossip, I believe Sajha can, and Sajha must, rise above the pettiness and avoid letting it's users indulge in disgusting gossips about others' personal lives. So what if others are doing it? That still doesn't justify Sajha joining the bandwagon.

 
Posted on 10-03-09 11:51 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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San ji,
On your very first sentence you admitted that  this thread as 'controvertial' (controversial). So why it is taking you so long to delete as requested by other users ?

 
Posted on 10-03-09 12:17 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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San,


 


As always, you have explained things with great responsibility and reason. Everything you said make sense


However, to your last question


“For us to delete it from sajha would have zero impact. ….would it have any impact on what Namrata has to go through? I don't think so.”


I believe the answer is huge YES. If we can make this news (of deleting of threads and of the symbolic meaning of it) to reach to her at this hour of the ordeal she is going through, the impact would not be zero, it would be rather infinity. So huge that it might actually SAVE her life, if, God forbid, she has reached to a point of losing all hopes.


What the international media is doing do not matter much. What matters for her is that the whole Gorkhe brotherhood is demonizing her. A small word of support might go a long way to give her strength. And here we are talking about a very huge and very special support..


As I said, the condition is that this message should reach to her. The impact will be so huge it might go up to saving her life.


This will be same as Sajha’s past act of humanity towards  saving lives of our brothers fighting for life from terminal illness or one requiring huge cost.


And last but not the least, even if this much is not possible, the title of this thread is really disgusting and demeaning. If it is not to you and other Sajha readers, my bad.


 


सारा दुनियाँ, खास गरेर हाम्रा आफ्नै बन्धुबान्धवले राक्षस्नीको रुपमा चित्रण, अपमान र परित्याग गरिरहेको यस घडीमा जस्तोसुकै आत्मबल पनि गल्ने र घोर निराशाको सकस र छटपटीले आत्मघातसम्मको अवस्थामा पुग्ने कुरा असामान्य होईन । यस्तो बखतमा समर्थनको एउटा सानो भन्दा सानो gesture पनि जीवनदायीनी बन्न सक्थ्यो ।


भन्ने मेरो तर्क । त्यत्ति हो ।


Nepe


 
Posted on 10-03-09 1:25 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Agree with Nepe, someone has to start and why not us?

 
Posted on 10-03-09 2:19 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Forgiveness is the great concept contributed by Jesus. Yes, Jesus was a bit crackpot, slightly insane... but jewish could not tolerate him but crucified him. Crucification was not required at all. But here is the excerpts from Bible - John 8

1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 

2 And early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. 

3 And the scribes and the Pharisees *brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the midst, 

4 they *said to Him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. 

5 "Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?" 

6 And they were saying this, testing Him, in order that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down, and with His finger wrote on the ground. 

7 But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them,
"He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
 

8 And again He stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 

9 And when they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the midst. 

10 And straightening up, Jesus said to her, "Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?" 

11 And she said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you; go your way. From now on sin no more."

So no one can condemn Namrata as well... the only difference between sin and crime - crime is only after the action.. otherwise you can think of killing someone, but you are still the sinner although you might not have executed the idea. So, in a way we all are sinner.. and as per above story, no one would be eligible to condemn Namrata.....

Jesus got enlightened because he lived 18 years in India... he went back to Israel at age 30, and by age 33 he was already crucified... so all the teachings of Jesus is due to eastern meditation practice Jesus learned in India. But he was crucified in such a way that he never died, he ran away to Kashmir where he died at the age of somewhat 112 or so... it's the same place where Moses was also spent his last days.. and both the tombs are still there in Kashmir.

Therefore, This thread should be removed.. or not removed.. does not matter... but I hope Namrata woudl read this... and she would dump everything as a grabage about the past... Past is past.. it's just a memory.. it's gone... remember buddhism.. live in present...!!!

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Posted on 10-03-09 2:31 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Involving gossips in someone's personal life is WRONG but involving gossip in someone DEATH which is not even true is MORE WRONG . So for right now the focus is only on deleting this hopeless and immaginative thread   Namarata Shtestha commit sucide ??


Friends pls be more specific our request is to point out and  delete this immaginative thread Namarata Shtestha commit sucide ??otherwise SAN will misinterpret and come with another justification .


 I give you one e.g there are countless quiz in facebook where users can take a quiz about what OBAMA did wrong but there was one quiz question last week that says Should OBAMA be killed? this quiz question was immediately removed/banned by facebook realising how unethical, hateful and how bad it is to talk about someone's death.
 the similar case is here when sajha viewers keep seeing Namarata Shtestha commit sucide ?? everytime they log in sajha


 


 
Posted on 10-03-09 2:49 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"This" thread has to be deleted because of its shocking title. But not other threads related to Namrata which came and went anyway.


 


And ved, shut the fu(k up about your Jesus crap. Who cares about that dude anyway. A few people just died in Nepal due to his followers' zeal.


 
Posted on 10-03-09 3:09 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Being just a mute reader of Sajha for a long time, what prompted me again to write today, is the response of SAN to NEPE. It seems quite evident that it is not too hard to disentangle Nepe's intended line of argument here. What baffles me more is SAN's mediocre response to NEPE.

"I would like to take this opportunity to point out that a single thread like this or few threads with controvertial topic in no way affects the ad revenues in sajha."

Sorry but no sorry. It does affect the ad revenue in Sajha. If I am wrong, would you please enlighten me about the revenue model that Sajha follows.

There is no argument that Sajha is helping people come together but how hard is it to admit as well that Sajha also depends on online ad-revenue model to sustain and perhaps, thrive among the community.

"As an informed internet user, I am sure that you can imagine what kind of content could have been introduced within sajha in order to increase the hits if that was the most important thing for sajha."

I feel weary of the dull and prehensile attempt to prove the point that Sajha does not intend to increase the hits.No one is arguing about what could have been, should have been or would have been the category of Sajha site. It is your site. You know it better about the implications and consequences of having the site redered to your 'could have been' category. The judgement lies on you.


"Again, if this was something that originated from sajha or had the potential of originating from sajha to a wider audience, then I can understand the need to remove it ASAP and I would be happy to comply."

SAN's argument remains valid but I'm sure he also understands that the people who hide themselves in digital anonymity to smear others are not only hurting the victim but also damaging the sense of trust to us all, on and offline. It's a different question altogether how wide does SAN want to expose himself for potential damages that might be claimed against Sajha.
 
"But would it have any impact on what Namrata has to go through?"

This response won the biggest piece of pie. How could one be so blatantly ignorant about the embarrassing emotional trauma the victim might be going through?

With due repect, SAN, please go blow your brains out, you've got nothing to lose then.


 
Posted on 10-03-09 3:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"I just received a text from Nepal saying "Namrata Shrestha" commit sucide. Try to ring Nepal but no body knows it... is it true or just rumor."


The originator of this thread just wanted to know if what he had heard was true or not. Long story short - simple "No" would have killed this thread. You, the moral defender/police of Sajha, chose to give the continuity to this thread. You added life to otherwise what would have been a dead thread.


Go figure who is at fault - you, the moral defender/police of Sajha, or San, the admin of Sajha?


 


 


 
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San is right, period!


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Posted on 10-03-09 4:22 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yes, this thread should be deleted because of the title. Regarding other videos, does not matter.

This "Sucide" thing should not be implanted in her mind who knows she is googling and reading Sajha to figure out what are people saying about her

 
Posted on 10-03-09 5:16 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Why can't you all take the responsibility for giving the fuel to this thread? Don't you share any blame?
It's very easy to point the fingers on others, isn't it? 

 
Posted on 10-03-09 5:20 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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meek_misfit is the perfect character for "LEG-PULLER". You seem to be just waiting for an opportunity to bash the admin.
 



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