>let me put forward my view, first of all, I did not say one man can win CL, I just said if his team mates help him, he will go very far and will be famous like messi or whoever.
aah assumptions!
> secondly, a good player can't win every game for a team, but definitely can have impact, like he did against champions of europe. Looks like you did not watch game.
a good player "in my definition" does more than 2 goals 0 assists in 10 EPL games. And sorry to disappoint you but I did watch the game.
> Did you see him playing against chelsea? Against manchester city,arsenal? His wembly goal?
Nobody is denying he is a good player.
> Did you notice how many times he made maicon fool? He scored 3 goals and assited 2 in 2 matches.
It would be interesting if you showed his stats for EPL as well if I may ask? It's way too easy to bend stats.
> For that to happen in football, do you know how many times one should try?
Yes sir, I do know (at least I think so).
>He has been magnificient since last season. I don't think your messi or whoever can have impact like him playing in a club like spurs, who are just playing their debut CL.
you are open to believe what you feel. But saying messi won't have an impact in club like spurs is oh well...Have you seen how many goal Messi creates on his own and how many assist he provides. Barca, yes the mighty barca would be struggling if it was not for Messi. And just so you know, spurs is a great team. I don't think saying its debut CL makes them amateur.
> I don't mean bale is better than messi but we must accept that messi is famous because he plays for barcelona.
Not true. Messi is famous because he scores.
> For example, had Ozil not been playing at Madrid or clubs of that level, despite his performance in WC, I doubt he would be famous like now.
more assumptions! more people watch RM game then marseilles I suppose. Why do u blame some player who can't make it to RM. Why are you completely ignoring the fact that RM, yes RM came after Ozil.
>Clubs matter.Arshavin would not be famous had he been playing at cska,
Yeah as if CSKA are champions of europe. Seriously, Arshavin is a great player (ok not that great).
> ronaldo would not win fifa award,had his team mates not helped win CL.
Ronaldo had more hand in winning the CL than anyone else "IMO".
> You sound as if the world does not produce any football stars again.
I really didnt mean to imply that. All I am saying is I dont make someone a hero from couple games. There are way too many better players lying around.