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San
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Posted on 07-18-12 3:42
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This is a great sajha initiative. Reminds me of crowdfunding/crowdsourcing that has become very popular in startups/academics/research.
This could be a start of a platform via sajha where we can directly contribute to many development projects in Nepal as opposed to complaining about it. I also like the idea of having a goal and the points mentioned by SAP DUDE above. Oh! just donated.
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Posted on 07-18-12 3:47
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Just did a little contribution. Thanks for sajha admin for this great work.
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Posted on 07-18-12 3:58
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Dharke Bro,
Last time i was in Nepal my family gave away 30 Siraks(blankets) to some Elderly homes near Kantipur offfice. Yearly Bhoj is a good jesture on your part but i am a person of Daily Thin Arrarot Biscuit and black tea over once a year Bhoj.
We need to make sure there is a least amount of overhead cost and almost 100% of the contribution reaches Dilshova directly. I would prefer no middleman in the process.
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Posted on 07-18-12 4:13
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Great thought from SAP DUDE, -------, and SNURP. I hope we all can keep the ball rolling and hopefully will not forget about this after a month.
"This could be a start of a platform via sajha where we can directly contribute to many development projects in Nepal" great thought SNURP. Bigger changes are also possible by small commitment and small contribution.
@Sanjneel great decision. APPRECIATED!!
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Posted on 07-18-12 9:31
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As few of you have suggested, this will serve to be a pilot program for such social service crowd funding initiative through sajha. I am thankful for your generosity and goodwill towards this social cause.
Once the goal is reached the fund will be transferred over to Dilshova Shrestha with concrete proof of disbursement. There will not be any middlemen besides the usual fee for credit card transaction and possibly bank wire transfer.
Please continue to support this fundraiser by sharing the fundraiser amongst your group of friends. It only takes one person in different circles to take the initiative for a successful fundraiser.
If you haven't given yet, please take a few moment to do so. Sometimes it is just the matter of taking 2 minutes out of your busy schedule to give what you can. Many times we procrastinate and in the end forget to give to a worthy cause such as this.
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Posted on 07-19-12 9:35
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Before I write anything about Dil Shobha I want to condemn those adults who abandon their parents on curbside. Shame on you! I am really happy to see the generosity people have offered to her after the interview. We also know this wave of generosity will subside in couple of days, if not than in couple of weeks, which is obvious. We can not stick to somebody else’s problem forever. We have our own responsibilities and we move on. But Dil Shobha is going to have cash flow problem constantly. Because, first it is funded by other’s emotion and second it is managed by her emotion. Emotions are neither steady nor permanent. She needs to generate some revenue herself to sustain and run this institution. To do so she can use the resource she has and the resource is the residents. The residents are not guest of the family; they are member of the family. I am sure the kids and grand mas’ can do light works. For example, grand mas' can make batti (batti kaatne), kids can make candles, incense sticks, greeting cards etc. They can open a shop in their facility and sell these items. Bijaya Kumar is not going to telecast her interview every six months to nudge our memory or even if he does the surge of willingness to give will decline as she has mentioned in her interview. I read biography of Aani Choying Drolma couple of months back. She runs same kind of institution for kids. I believe it is called Arya Tara School. However, she generates majority of her revenue herself. She is gifted with beautiful voice and she performs in international concerts (chanting mantras) and sells her music albums. Dil Shobha does not have such talent to cash in therefore she needs to be creative in sharing her responsibility. By saying all this I don’t mean to discourage any donors. I am just concerned about this institution’s sustainability. Please donate generously. Our few dollars can build a warm home for those discarded people. San, thank you for making the process easy for us. Dil Shobha, I solute your effort.
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Posted on 07-19-12 10:01
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You are right nakkali keti. how much can we donate every month and to how many such institutions? Even if we donate our whole salary a month it is not enough. We need to teach them how to be self sustainable by any kind of small work they are capable of. eg. growing vegetables in the terrace if they don't have land.
The people opening such institutions should also learn to be self sustainable in the long run. She opened it because of emotional feeling. We all have that feeling too. But the universal truth is such NGO and INGOs always have deficit if they are not self sustainable.
"There is no such thing like Free in this world." Economics
Dil Shova is right. Ek choti aucha help garcha ani birsincha. We do the same due to our own problems.
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Posted on 07-19-12 10:10
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Nakkali Keti,
Don't be that quick on condeming folks on abandoning their elderly mothers. There could be a case or two of abandonment but others could just be women without kids especially sons and there could also be ones who were in the street their whole life without anyone and all of a sudden they were old and sick.
You have brought up some valid points on the sustainability of the program run by Dilshova. But if you watch the video closely, the video is about survival not sustainability. She is surving people who otherwise would be dead in the street. Also, we cannot expect one to make a living by making Cotton Battis and certainly cannot promote children making Candles. It is how it is and it will go as it goes. What Dilshova needs is a Charity Manager who can promote the agenda and bring donations in but once she commercilizes it it loses the personal touch that she is giving in it. Commercilization make donors skeptic about their donations. It brings " budi ra bachha le paune ho ki hoina mero donation" kind of a situation.
One thought that roams in my head is why those charities chose busy and expensive real estate for those elderly homes. Why cant they move to a cheaper place somehwere outside of KTM to run their hostel there? They can even do something like Tarkari farming there and use that money for their benefit. I am thinking of places like Banepa and Panchkhaal. It may or may not apply for Dilshobha but would definitly apply for Maiti Nepal like organization.
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Posted on 07-19-12 10:43
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सान दाइ प्रति आभार व्यक्त गर्दै केही कुरा राख्न चाहन्छु .
धेरै मित्रहरुको सुझाव, चिन्ता र आशयलाई सान दाई ले बिचार गर्नु नै हुने छ . दिल शोभा दिदी को दिल बारे धेरै लेखिसकेको छ . सहयोगी हातहरु तत्काल धेरै देखिए पनि केही समय पछी चर्चा सेलाए पछी फेरी दिल शोभाकी आमाहरुले अनिलो भातमा रात बिताउनु पर्ने हुन सक्छ .
तपाईंहरुको हृदय देखि को सहयोगको योग क्षणिक मात्र नभई निरन्तरता को रुप दिन सान दाई संग प्रत्यक्ष सरसल्लाह गर्ने बिचारमा छु . सान दाइ को फुर्सद कुरी राख्या छु .
यो सहयोग एउटा आन्दोलन को रुपमा फैलियोस ...यसले बेइमान आत्मा भित्रको इमान झक्झकाओस् . करोडौ भ्याट मार्ने भातमारा साहुहरु ले मारेको भ्याट को केहि अंश भात बनाइ दिए पाप केही कम हुन्थ्यो कि ?? यसको अर्थ भ्यात्मारा हरु को समर्थन गरेको हैन . लाखौँ बियर र मदिराले उत्पादन गर्ने उद्योगी ले केही बोरा चामल भात उत्पादन गर्न खर्चे नि हुने हो . कहिले काहीं सोच्छु . तर सोचे जस्तो नहुने रहेछ .
हुकुम्बासी लाई बस्ति बसाउन करोडौ खर्चिने नालायक डाक्टर साहेब, एउटा कुलान्गार सन्तानले सनक को भरमा सगरमाथा चढ्न चकलेट खान २ करोड तत्काल दिन सक्ने दानवीर सरकार प्रमुख को मन पग्लिएन छ दिल शोभाको कुरामा .
तर साझाबासि को मन अझै ढुंगे भैसकेको छैन . साझा बासी को मन दिल शोभाको आँशु संगै दुख्छ . दिल शोभाको घरमा भरमा आश्रित आमाहरु र बालकहरुको आशुं संगै रुझेका मनहरुले ती मन नहुने हरुलाई पनि एक दिन ब्यूँझाउने छ . आशा छ यो आन्दोलनले बृहत रुप लिने छ .
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Posted on 07-19-12 10:49
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nakkali keti, even a dollar out of your pocket every month matters a lot for somebody else but it's too insignificant for you alone. Isn't it? Imagine if the whole 40,000 sajha users contributing a dollar a month, it definitely would make impact for those in need. I don't think a dollar a month is a big problem for us to need that lecturing. May be you haven't seen her whole video but she definitely is generating revenues through her rental. What I personally(may be others as well) was concerned is to uplift the quality of their life and if our small contribution can bring that change then why not. Before lecturing to turn them into small home industry, do you really think those old like above 80 years who can't see could really work? Those small kids who are supposed to go to school and learn something be intertwined into random industrial labor? I don't know but I didn't understand your logic. Your idea of self-dependency doesn't apply here. They need help and we can help them at continous manner.
I would like to add voice to San Ji's and urge all sajha users for good cause, to donate even as little as $1 a month and together it will make a big impact. I don't think I really have to restate our famous quote 'Thopa Thopa Milera Samundra'. May be San Ji could create some fund where Sajha users could donate at least $1 a month or anything on their will and later on disburse it to those in need periodically.
I believe in 'us' and I think together we can achieve this feat.
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Posted on 07-19-12 10:54
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Make it permanent, I'll contribute every month till my death.
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Posted on 07-19-12 11:10
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How many of you remember $1 a month donation box by Mahabir Pun? He is now opening his own restaurant to generate profit and use for his village internet project. because he is out of money by donors. He should have done this a long time ago by donors money and earn profit for his noble cause.
One suggestion from my side is:
I don't know if she has children big enough to do some kind of small business like Donut making and selling in their free time after their study. There is a big profit in that.
The money generated from Sajha, she can invest in buying floor, kerosin oil, stove. The profit she made from that she can pay loan little by little. This is just my advice. A lot of street vendors are surviving like that in Kathmandu selling momos, pani puri. But she needs some extra help for sure. She will not be able to do this alone. She is also an old woman.
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Posted on 07-19-12 11:30
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संस्कृति, संस्कृति भनेर कराउने हरुले हाम्रो संस्कृति को उपयोग गरे हुन्छ एस्तो राम्रो काम को लागि जस्तै
१. त्यो एकजना पुराण भन्ने बाजे छन्,नि, तिनलाई दिल शोभा को "आमा को घर" को लागि पुराण भन्न लगाउने , उठे को पैसा अकच्ये कोष मा राख्ने ब्याज ले चलाउने .
२. बुद्धिस्ट हरु को सम्यक दान भन्ने दिन हुन्छ क्यारे , त्यो सम्येक दान गर्ने दिन लाइ " रास्त्रिये दान दिन" भनेर घोसना गर्नी र त्यो दिन मा सबै नेपाली लाई दान दिन को लागि उत्प्रेरणा गर्नी , त्यो दिन मा साहु महाजन हरुले कालो सेतो काम गरेर कमाएको केहि रुपिया देलान त्यो पैसा "रास्त्रिये दान कोष" खडा गरेर बैंक मा राख्नी अनी त्यो पैसा ले आमाघर , बाल मन्दिर लाई सहयोग गर्नी. देश विकास गर्ने सबै मिलेर एस्तो काम गर्न पर्छ. येत्सो गर्यो भने धेरै मान्छे लाई सहयोग गर्न पर्छा भन्ने जागृत हुन्छ . "रास्त्रिये दान दिन" मा एक लाख मान्छे ले १००० सहयोग गरे भने १०, करोड जम्मा हुन्छ , तेस बाट धेरै काम गर्न सकिन्छ हरेक वर्ष १० करोड जम्मा गर्नी भनेको ठुलो कुरा हो
३. तेस्को अर्थ साझा बाट सहयोग नगरनी भनेको होइन
@ SAP DUDE
भोज किन गरेको भन्दा त्यहाँ जादा ति बुदा बुडी को अनुहार मा चमक देखिन मैले , अब हामीलाई पनि हुन्छ नि कहिले कहिँ पार्टी /साथी भाई भेला, बेएर तान्न पाएन भने बोर हुन्छ नि तेस्तै, रमझम को कमि, सधै एकाइ प्रकार को खाना ले उनीहरु लाई बोर भाको जस्तो लाग्यो तेसैले वर्ष को एकदिन पार्टी गर्देको. पार्टी गरे पछि तिनीहरु हसिला देखिन्थे तेही भएर हो, अरु केहि होइन
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nakkali keti
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Posted on 07-19-12 11:32
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Bittertruth,
It is not about my lecturing. It is about thinking better alternative to sustain so that she doesn’t have to depend upon your mercy.
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Posted on 07-19-12 11:45
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Dashain is coming near. A lot of Nepalese are going to Nepal to celebrate dashain.
One advise to people who are going home this Dashain.
Most of the airlines allow 2 baggage. I advise each and every one of you to take one baggage full of children books or educational books to unpriviledged children back home. You can also take cloths. You can collect those books from your surrounding areas, from your friends and collegues and other people in advance. Feel the happiness when you donate yourself. You don't have to worry if some middleman ate your donation.
Sajha can help you in this too. Just inform Sajha and Sajha will advertise that you are going to Nepal and people from your area can drop books at your house.
You can search in craigslist too. Some people keep all their childrens books and cloths for free. You can go and pick up that too.
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एक दम राम्रो सेवा दिनु भएको रहेछ दिल शोभा दिदि ले ... नेपाल जाँदा पक्कै आमा घर पस्ने छु र आफु सक्दो सहयोग गर्ने छु
अहिले सानो सहयोग गर्न खोजेको थिए तर पेपाल रहेन छ कसरि होला
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अकबर र बिरबलको कथाबाट एउटा प्रसँग:
एक चोटि सम्राट अकबरलाई आफ्नो राज्यमा के कति अन्धाहरु छन् भने जान्ने सुर चलेछ । अनि अकबरले आफ्नो प्रिय मन्त्री बिरबललाई अर्हाएछन् 'ल त बिरबल हाम्रो राज्यमा कति अन्धाहरु छन् पत्ता लगाउन पर्यो' । अब अकबरले आज्ञा गरेको कुरामा बिरबलले किन नाइ भन्थे । बिरबलले 'हस सरकार' भनेछन् । अनि आइडियामास्टर बिरबललाई एउटा अाइडिया आएछ र दरबारमा मान्छेहरुको खुब आवतजावत हुने एउटा भर्र्याङ्मा बसेर धमाधम डोरी बाट्न थालेछन् । कोही आउदो रहेछ र सोध्दो रहेछ 'बिरबल तिमी यो के गरिरहेका छौ?'; कोही आउँदो रहेछ र सोध्दो रहेछ 'बिरबल तिमी यो डोरी के को लागि बाटिरहेका छौ ?' आदी इत्यादी । स्वयम् सम्राट अकबरले आएर सोधेछन् 'बिरबल तिमी यो के गरिरहेका छौ ?' अनि त्यहाँ डोरी बाट्नुसँगै बिरबल अन्धाहरुको सूचीमा पनि काम गरिरहेका रहेछन् । भोलीपल्ट बिरबलले सम्राटलाई दरबारमा भएका अन्धाहरुको सूचि बुझाएछन् । त्यो सूचिको सबभन्दा माथि आफ्नो नाम देखेर अकबर अत्यन्त क्रुद्द भएछन् । 'बिरबल तिमीले मेरो नाम यो अन्धाहरुको सूचिमा किन राखेको ?' सातो खाने स्वरमा अकबरले बिरबललाई झापारे । 'सरकार जो व्यक्ति आफ्नो अगाडि के भैरहेको छ भनेर देख्दा देख्दै पनि यो के गरेको भनेर सोध्छ, त्यसलाई अन्धो नभनेर के भन्ने ?' बिरबलको चतुराइपूर्ण जवाफ सुनेर सम्राट अकबर नाजवाफ भए ।
माथिको लाइन पढेर त राम्रोसँग हास्न पनि सकिएन । टाउकोमा हात राखेर रुँ रुँ हाँसु हाँसु कस्तो कस्तो भयो ...
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Bhunte, you can donate via credit card too. I chose the same option as I think Paypal charges a small fee as part of commission.
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dipika02
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दिल शोभा दिदिको सराहनिय मुटु देखेर आँखा रसायो। आफ्नो जीवनकालमा धेरै सुख सयल नमिलेपनि दिल शोभा दिदिको दरिलो मुटुले निकै आमा र साना साना बाल बालिकाहरुलाई आश्रय दिनु भएको रहेछ। आफ्नैहरुको माझमा पराई हुन पुग्नु भएका ति आमाहरुको आशाको डोरी शायद चुडिएर धुजा धुजा भईसकेका थिए होलान। त्यस्ता कयौँ आमाहरुको जीवन अपेक्षा को झिनो त्यन्द्रो बुन्दा बुन्दै नै समात्प भए होलान र जती आमाहरु उहाँ सँग हुनुहुन्छ त्यो क्रम बद्ध रुपमा बढ्ने नै छ। दिल सोभा दिदिले धरौटिमा आफ्नो मुटु राखेर सुरु गर्नु भएको यो काममा हौसला बढाउनु को साथै हाम्रो निरन्तर सहयोग को खाँचो अहिले उहाँलाई परेको छ। ति आमाहरुको आँखामा आशुका ताल धेरै जमिसके। अब उहाँहरुले न त राम्रो सँग देख्न सक्नु हुन्छ न त सुन्न नै। उहाहरुको शरीरमा धेरै फुर्ती छैन आँफै काम गरुँ या कमाउँ भन्नलाई। दिल सोभा दिदिको बिशाल हृदयले मात्र उहाहरुको जीवन चल्दैन। हाम्रो ब्यस्त जीवनमा यस्तो काममा निरन्तरता दिनु भनेको हाम्रो लागि पनि चुनौती नै हो। तर हामीले गरेको सानो सहयोग र दिएका केही पलहरुले कयौ आमहरुको ओठमा मुस्कान भर्न सक्छौँ। दिल शोभा दिदिले जे जती गर्नु भएको छ तेस्लाई प्रोत्साहन गर्नु को साथै सहयोग गर्नु हाम्रो धर्म हो। आशु आँखा भित्रै सुकाइसक्नु भएका बिचलित आमाहरुको आफ्नै मुटुमा दबिएको क्रन्दन सुन्न सक्ने बिशाल हृदय भएकी दिदी दिल सोभाले चाल्नु भएको यो कदम एउटा सुरुवाद हो। सहयोग भन्ने कुरा चाहेर मात्र पनि सबैले गर्न सकिन्न। हामीले सक्छौ। ति ब्रिद्ध आमाहरुले शायद बल्ल आशाका केही किरण देख्नु भएको छ होला जीवनमा। अब यो भरोसा नटुटोस भन्ने प्रयास गरौँ। कृपया यो सहयोगलाई निरन्तरता दियौँ।
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