Following is a list of people undersigning a petition submitted to The Indian Embassy in Washington DC on April 25, 2006, which among other things requests the following

Pressure the SPA to reject forming a constituent assembly

It was found that some people were framed/misled. One such example is #19 < Name(s)/Address(es) removed
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Please check the list to see if there are people who should not be here.

I found my own name (#31 ), however, this name is tagged with MSc. I hope this gentleman is real and he is genuinely against Constituent Assembly.

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wtf still going to beg with indians fu(king $$ hole$ who eva came with this fu(king idea to submit to indians, just simply fu(king coward

Assuming the people whose names are there actually signed in the letter themselves, the solution these people are proposing sounds as vague as, if not more vague, than the SPA roadmap. I agree that India should stop meddling in Nepal's business, but given some of these people's history, I wont be surprised if, after everything is over -- by "everything", I mean elections to the constituent assembly and formation of a new constitution--these people come out saying "Oh, we still need to have parliamentary elections under the king's rule!" People may not know what constituent assembly is, but one thing is for sure: they want freedom and the recent political developments are a step in the right direction. I wish 30-odd men/women in the USA all the luck in the world to change the tide against what thousands of Nepalis in the streets of Kathmandu want!

This is a genuinely undemocratic attitude. Really. If people are against the CA, let them be. If you believe in democracy, you have to be prepared to accept that there are countless others who do not approve of your viewpoints, and being a democract means, as far as I understand the word, learning to live with the people, ideas and attitudes totally different than your own.

Of course in democracy you have the rights to make public the names of the people who belong to a different clique than your own, but then you have to realize that there are certain things even in democracy that you have to be mindful of before exercizing your democratic rights. Democracy does not mean irresponsible behaviors, does it?

Kura rahyo, people who oppsed the CA. You should be happy to note that Nepali democracy, atleast the diaspora democracy is thriving. There are peope, brave people in minority, who refuse to toe the majority's line. Instead of making fun of these people who signed the petition, have them over for a nice discussion. Learn from them why they don't support what you support and try to persuade them to think/act along your line. If you succeed in that, all the better. Even if you fail, you will learn a thing or two and the reasons that make them not follow you, and again it will help to your advantage. If your prefer web-discussions, then have a civil discussion. Why this name calling of Mandale and this and that? I am sure these people in US and elsewhere are all above 18 balig matadhikar bhayeko nepalis who know what they are doing and have a well developed view of Nepal and its politics. Just because they don't dance to your tune does not mean they are on the wrong side of history, ignorant, anti-democratic and such. Just because you and your friends accept the demand for CA does not mean everyone should rally behind you. Let them have the freedom to choose, without being ridiculed in this public forum for their political viewpoints. It simply doesn't make sense.

In my view, CA is still a complex issue. And I believe, its not as easy and uncomplicated as some of you may have imagined. And the leaders themselves haven't really given enough worthy of debating/listening to views on this. As a result, they have failed to persuade some people. They have to be clear on why we need CA and why now? Is it just to avenge their "humiliation" by the King or do they genuinely feel we need it, and if so, what are those genuine reasons? Do they have realistic plans/goals? Are they being played by other forces? Without a clear-cut answers to these questions, of course, some will have a hard time accepting the demands for CA.

Of course many people in Nepal are demanding it, but are they demanding it because they know what it is or just because its in vogue? Since everyone is demanding it, maybe I should demand it too kind of attitude is at play here. We should be really mindful in this volatile situation, in my view. Of course in democracy you have to support the majority's opinion, but is the majority's opinion always right, correct and appropriate? What if the majority is in the moment of anger and frustrations is demanding it without realzing its vast political consequences? Call me mandale, but I do believe that we do have to give enough time to these questions before taking sides on the issue.

This is a genuinely undemocratic attitude. Really. If people are against the CA, let them be. If you believe in democracy, you have to be prepared to accept that there are countless others who do not approve of your viewpoints, and being a democract means, as far as I understand the word, learning to live with the people, ideas and attitudes totally different than your own.

Of course in democracy you have the rights to make public the names of the people who belong to a different clique than your own, but then you have to realize that there are certain things even in democracy that you have to be mindful of before exercizing your democratic rights. Democracy does not mean irresponsible behaviors, does it?

Kura rahyo, people who oppsed the CA. You should be happy to note that Nepali democracy, atleast the diaspora democracy is thriving. There are peope, brave people in minority, who refuse to toe the majority's line. Instead of making fun of these people who signed the petition, have them over for a nice discussion. Learn from them why they don't support what you support and try to persuade them to think/act along your line. If you succeed in that, all the better. Even if you fail, you will learn a thing or two and the reasons that make them not follow you, and again it will help to your advantage. If your prefer web-discussions, then have a civil discussion. Why this name calling of Mandale and this and that? I am sure these people in US and elsewhere are all above 18 balig matadhikar bhayeko nepalis who know what they are doing and have a well developed view of Nepal and its politics. Just because they don't dance to your tune does not mean they are on the wrong side of history, ignorant, anti-democratic and such. Just because you and your friends accept the demand for CA does not mean everyone should rally behind you. Let them have the freedom to choose, without being ridiculed in this public forum for their political viewpoints. It simply doesn't make sense.

In my view, CA is still a complex issue. And I believe, its not as easy and uncomplicated as some of you may have imagined. And the leaders themselves haven't really given enough worthy of debating/listening to views on this. As a result, they have failed to persuade some people. They have to be clear on why we need CA and why now? Is it just to avenge their "humiliation" by the King or do they genuinely feel we need it, and if so, what are those genuine reasons? Do they have realistic plans/goals? Are they being played by other forces? Without a clear-cut answers to these questions, of course, some will have a hard time accepting the demands for CA.

Of course many people in Nepal are demanding it, but are they demanding it because they know what it is or just because its in vogue? Since everyone is demanding it, maybe I should demand it too kind of attitude is at play here. We should be really mindful in this volatile situation, in my view. Of course in democracy you have to support the majority's opinion, but is the majority's opinion always right, correct and appropriate? What if the majority is in the moment of anger and frustrations is demanding it without realzing its vast political consequences? Call me mandale, but I do believe that we do have to give enough time to these questions before taking sides on the issue.

Once all these questions are addressed in a democratic way, then its easy to reach an informed conclusion. Hastily taking sides of the issues of national importance and which might affect your own life for a long time, in my view, is not really going to help you understand the pros and cons of your decision, although it might not make you regret your decision in the long run, you might still feel uncomfortable with your choice. In the case of CA, I personally am waiting for more persuassive arguments and arrangements than what is being proposed now.

will help to your advantage= it will work to your advantage.

Its amazing how those mandele who strongly opposed advices of india, US , UK and other countries about democracy as 'foriegn intervention' are asking them for help!!

This shows the kind of 'soverginity' the King and mandale represent. If you do not have faith in nepali people ability to draft a proper constitution for themshelves... you have no right to be concerned about them either... pack your bag to bangalore or whatever place you like... let common nepali people enjoy fruits of their struggle.

I think Ashu earlier pointed out correctly that in democracy all the views should be aired and discussed logically and with civility ... and if you can't do that, even though you are for CA, you are not a democrat and you are either an autocratic royalist or authoretarian maoist ... you take your pick. You can't have your cake and eat it too!!

Hmmmm... I see some raja ko paltu kukkurs in this thread. Are Royalist Dogs shi++ing in their pants now? Hahahaha.

If people really believe that CA is not a good idea, they why are u guys whining here that ur names are published?

Those people who started this petition should be ashamed of themselves for including the names of the people without their consent.

I do not care who these people supoorted or petioned for. BUT for Nepe to go release their names like he did......IS NOT RIGHT. JUST LIKE YOU NEPE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT. Yeah I am not a firm believer of NEpe and his fukin Republican antics too..but I am not going to release his name and address because of it.

NEPE FUKIN" WANTS TO REPRESENT US FROM NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT TO GET A PEICE OF THE CAKE WHEN ITS READY TO BE CUT AIN"T IT ? he he SEEMS LIKE HE IS MORE WORRIED ABOUT GETTING A BIGGER PEICE OF CAKE THAN THE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDED HIM THE CAKE. he he

Nepe, As Bathrooome Coffee suggested take the thread out! Are you stupid to publsih other people's personal information here? YOu are one piece of junk yourself.

Who says this is personal? Are you in your right mind, AV and other---. If these guys think it fine to make their voice heard to the public and campaign for an issue on which several people have lost their lives and hold so dear and if these people have gone public in pressing a political alliance (which is not a private or a personal thing), how can you argue that their names shouldn't have been publicized? If you want to dabble your feet in politics--which is always public, mind you--you should be prepared to expose your ankles!!! That's as simple as that. It is not any revelation of their sex life or what they did to their relationships nor about what they argued about in private. understood?

And read what the original poster said and prefaced before the list. He has a genuine concern here. I find that one more person was misled whose name appears here. But the other surprise is--when did #40 become a Nepali citizen?
Besides, what these guys tried to do--petition to Indian embassy-- simply shamed us all. Beg Indians to solve Nepal's problems--which are not identified nor prioritized properly--and also suggest not to interfere in Nepal's internal affairs? What a bundle of contradiction!!! They neither know what they are doing nor can think clearly--even though the list has a Ph.D. I now doubt what kind of Ph.D. that is. Well, maybe from a degree mill!!!!!!

Lonely1 ... if you have one ... what's wrong with revealing one's sex life to the public? In democracy it is understood you can bring your point forward without the fear of reprisal ... what Nepe is doing has characteristic of being a Reprisal. Who died and appointed him the Information Minister? With that said, if I believed in something I would not have any issues defending my position. My only point is if Person A's name is being release ... who released it? This deals with the root of the Nepali problem ... TRUST !! If NEPE wants to bring people's names forward so that people will hold them accountable to their points of views then NEPE please have enough courage to show yourself otherwise ...well enough said for now!!

मन्डलेहरु, भारतको दुतावासलाई निवेदन गर्ने बेला आफु छर्लँग नाँगो भएर गर्यौ। अहिले चाँही नेपे लाई गाली गर्छौ। "हाम्ले लुकेर, अरुलाइ थाहा नदिइ झुक्याएर नाम राखेर तयार गरेको निवेदन साझा मा ल्याएर राख्दो रैछ" भन्या त होला नि।

थुक्क, तिमिहरुको बुद्धि। अझ साझा मा The last of the Mandales आएर प्रजातन्त्र को दुहाइ दिएको देख्दा टीठ लाग्छ। "प्रजातन्त्र मा हामि नाँगिन पाउछौ, तर तिमिहरुले औँला ठड्याएर कुरिकुरि भन्न पाउदैनौ" भन्न खोजेको त हैन?

Revealing people's name with their legitimate address without their consent to public is not a wise thing to do and is a violation of privacy act (unless it was already a public information). It can lead to many unforeseen consequences to people whose privacy are being compromised.

So Nepe sir, I patiently await the souce of this information so that appropriate action can be taken to whoever created this bogus petition and compromised people's privacy.

I respect the right to opinion and expression of these thapas, ranas, shahas, basnets, pandeys and other bhardars and bhardar's sakha santan. Of course, they will be able to express and publish if the current movement can institutionalize real democracy--unlike during the rana's and shaha's and ther cronies' terms. They should not be prosecuted for dissent or expression of such a point of view--again unlike during the regimes they supported, which executed draconian measures against people and free press. I would be the first one to stand for their rights if they were to be subjected to the same measure under any measure. Period. That's not the issue here, though.
The issue here is not that of these people's rights. The issue is--when they claim to represent educated and professional Nepalis, can you expect them to have a clear idea of what they are doing (except intellectual bankrupcy and anxiety at the loss of their privileged position) if not some form of solution? (read my post above for just one example of their own confusion and contradiction). Second, do they owe some kind of honesty and fairness to the people they say have signed the petition? How fair is it to include people's names and change their degree or include people's names under false assurances and even include foreigners under Nepalis....?

Pire ...arulai थुक्क bhandai ma kehi hudaina!! The wind is blowing toward you and the थुक will land right in your face!

Bottom line is in Democracy you should be able to express your poilitical points of views without trepedition. I am only aginst NEPE if his intention was to get back at those people in the petition! And I assure you I am not in there.

On the other front what will it take for Nepali people, other than me and some other, to realize that the SPA movement did not result in a long term democracy -- if the intention was not a long term stable democracy than that's fine .. but if it was then SPA did not get what they fought for!! Maoist will come out victorios in all this and by golly gee willikar all the Nepali people will wash the blood of their relatives in our tears!! I fear those days are not too far from now!!

That's why blaming Nepe is just barking at the wrong tree. The issue is something else. You just want to divert the attention and still play the moral high horse. What a joke!!!