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paradox
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Posted on 11-12-06 4:20
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We are afraid to die. To end the fear of death we must come into contact with death, not with the image which thought has created about death, but we must actually feel the state. Otherwise there is no end to fear, because the word death creates fear, and we don't even want to talk about it. Being healthy, normal, with the capacity to reason clearly, to think objectively, to observe, is it possible for us to come into contact with the fact, totally? The organism, through usage, through disease, will eventually die. If we are healthy, we want to find out what death means. It's not a morbid desire, because perhaps by dying we shall understand living. Living, as it is now, is torture, endless turmoil, a contradiction, and therefore there is conflict, misery and confusion. The everyday going to the office, the repetition of pleasure with its pains, the anxiety, the groping, the uncertainty - that's what we call living. We have become accustomed to that kind of living. We accept it; we grow old with it and die. To find out what living is as well as to find out what dying is, one must come into contact with death; that is, one must end every day everything one has known. One must end the image that one has built up about oneself, about one's family, about one's relationship, the image that one has built through pleasure, through one's relationship to society, everything. That is what is going to take place when death occurs
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Posted on 12-20-06 6:40
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Posted on 12-20-06 7:01
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I don't fear death but death is afraid of meh...... -rockend
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Posted on 12-20-06 8:34
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When death comes you won't have time to be afraid. Trust me!
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Posted on 12-20-06 8:37
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haha!!!!!!! LOL.......... then ask the person who knows he is going to die tomorrow...... I mean a cancer patient........ how will he/she feel........ or any patient who knows he/she is dying...... you are wrong so called birbhadra........ I am sure bir bhadra wasn't afraid of death......... I am proud of him......... he fought for his country.......
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Posted on 12-20-06 10:24
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BirBhadra Ji ko kura ramro lagyo......Death does not come with formal invitation.....when it comes, it comes........and takes us away.....we will never know how it was, or how we felt........Its another thing, if you have some kind of disease, and is suffering, then, your death is your pain.....for those in pain, death is better than ur sufferings.......mero 2 paisa ko kura ho....bujne lai srikhanda, nabujne lai khurpa ko bid.....
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Posted on 12-20-06 10:37
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OK! i died a hundred times and i felt death every then.. and still , i am scared i go through the same feelings always!!! i feel the death - elf As the music passes by my soul i think of days i let go when nobody was never me God helped me go out of it People talkin' about me now Shit people, who cares 'em anyway i lie on my bed with my last breath forever and a lifetime , a grace i had to meet all my life, kept waiting now dont have no life anymore i saw her again the last time loosened hair, touchin' my senses this was the time i closed my eyes feared to open or i wouldnt see her There was dew still from the morning and behind me the people announced my death!
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Posted on 12-21-06 10:44
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Bear me with my writing; I am bad in expressing in writing, I will talk about my two experiences that are related to death. 1. Once, when I smoked pot, I was physically not in a good condition to smoke but I did. I smoked more than 4 times I would smoke to get stoned when I were in healthy state. I thought I was going to die and was scared like hell. That day I experienced some changes in feeling that has changed my life thereafter. When I smoked too much, my heart beat went exceptionally fast, was like 110/min. my normal is between 80-85/min. I tried to sleep, but I could hear it in my head, I stood up, still I could hear. I tried to think on some other topics, but I was unsuccessful. As the नसा got higher and higher, I eyes got drier, mouth was dry, hands went pale, face went pale. I drank some water, still my mouth was dry. And later, I started having cotton-mouth. I had heard that cotton-mouth is a sign of body physiology going down. I got fu(king scared. शरिर लुलो भो । I was scared of dying. And this fear exacerbated the weakness of body. Physical pain while dying was not of much concern as I believed that I will pass out and go numb soon. The following is the conclusion of the feeling of that day. I call this a revelation. Yes I fear death. And that is the feeling I have deep inside me. As somebody said earlier, even when I am writing about this, the topic itself is enough to make me feel awkward. My perception to person like birbhadra is, they are scared enough to think on it, so they chose to ignore it. Why I feared death? I think that I have a lot more to do, which I consider as duty of a man. To do what? To pay the debt to my parents for bringing me up, mind you, it is not for giving me life. Because, did I ever wished to come to life? as far as I can think, reason or remember, no. They just gave birth to a child and it happened to be me. Coming into life was not my choice, nor was it their choice to bring 'me' into life instead of somebody else. It was just coincidence that happened that brought me here. But, after I came into existence, it was due to their help that I grew up. Once I got consciousness, I wanted to live and see the world, (why see? May b just curiosity since I was already here) and the parents helped me to grow so that I can fulfill that want (to see the world). I want to repay for their help so that I am free of any responsibility to them. When I am free, from the debts, I can go on my own. Though it was/is the parents who played the major part, there are others as well who helped in growing up, physically and mentally. So, they also deserve the repay for the time and effort they spent on me. Its not the love that makes me closer to them. Its the feeling of duty to repay (I do not know why I cannot be independent without repaying, may be its the basic law of nature: independent means without debt of any sort). If these people die, colloquially termed as ‘loved ones’, my wish to repay will be unfulfilled, and I will have to live ever in debt. It is this that makes me sad when these people die. How do I repay? I do not know for everything. But, like I want to be independent, I believe that they also want to be independent, ie personally independent. So I would like to help them to be independent, which would be my repay. They were unable, like me, to be independent because they themselves have their debt. Since I do not know what exactly their debt includes, I try to ease their environment so that they will be in better state to repay their debt. I guess (ya, it is a damn big guess) that giving, or trying to give, whatever they want, would make them more ‘themselves’ and independent. Money, health, bringing up other ‘bodies’ (their children) that they have/are bringing to the world, are some of the spots, I think, that is preventing them from being independent themselves. When they are free from their debt, they will be independent, when they will be independent, I will be independent. At that state, there will be no relation between them and me. BUT, its never going to happen that they will be free from their debts, and hence I. So I am entangled in this mess. Same is the case if I die early, I will feel that I could not repay my debt. 2. I usually have a problem sleeping if I do not sleep on time. I feel sleepy but I cannot really sleep. I will be in तन्द्रा state where I feel that I am awake but actually I am dreaming. At such times, sometimes, I feel like moving but I cannot move myself. If I try to shout, I cannot even speak. At that time, what I feel is, my mind is awake but my body is not in my mind’s control. Then I think of death. What if death is like that, your mind working but body is unable to do anything. Like, you had one accident, and you die. People gather, they take you in an ambulance to the hospital. A doctor does post mortem of your body. But, what if, the death means that your mind is still working and you see and feel them going through all this. You see doctor doing your own post mortem. What if you feel the pain during all this but just that you cannot express yourself that you feel all this, that you see all this? Everytime I go through that state while sleeping, I get scared from death. In the back of my mind, I feel happy of being a hindu, they will burn you down soon after you die, so u will have no body to feel the pain. Man, if I will get cancer of HIV or like that, I will blow myself with a suicide bomb.
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Posted on 12-21-06 2:08
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"Do you know what it means to come into contact with death, to die without argument? Because death, when it comes, does not argue with you. To meet it, you have to die every day to everything: to your agony, to your loneliness, to the relationship you cling to; you have to die to your thought, to die to your habit, to die to your wife so that you can look at your wife anew; you have to die to your society so that you, as a human being, are new, fresh, young, and you can look at it. But you cannot meet death if you don't die every day. It is only when you die that there is love. A mind that is frightened has no love - it has habits, it has sympathy, it can force itself to be kind and superficially considerate. But fear breeds sorrow, and sorrow is time as thought. So to end sorrow is to come into contact with death while living, by dying to your name, to your house, to your property, to your cause, so that you are fresh, young, clear, and you can see things as they are without any distortion. That is what is going to take place when you die. But we have a limited death to the physical. We know very well logically, sanely, that the organism is going to come to an end. So we invent a life which we have lived of daily agony, daily insensitivity, the increase of problems, and its stupidity; that life we want to carry over, which we call the "soul" - which we say is the most sacred thing, a part of the divine, but it is still part of your thought and therefore it has nothing to do with divinity. It is your life! So one has to live every day dying - dying because you are then in contact with life." Hi, Its not my words. Its JK is lectures!
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Posted on 12-21-06 4:46
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" .......So to end sorrow is to come into contact with death while living, by dying to your name, to your house, to your property, to your cause, so that you are fresh, young, clear, and you can see things as they are without any distortion. That is what is going to take place when you dieTo meet it, you have to die every day to everything: to your agony, to your loneliness, to the relationship you cling to; you have to die to your thought, to die to your habit, to die to your wife so that you can look at your wife anew; you have to die to your society so that you, as a human being, are new, fresh, young, and you can look at it............" यहाँ उल्लेख र मेरो आसयमा death को परिभाषा मा भिन्नता भएछ । मैले ज्यान मर्नुलाइ सम्बोधन गर्ने प्रयास गरेको थिए, which is different from death of ideology, thought, pain or anything like that.
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Posted on 12-21-06 5:13
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Newfoundglory, anticipation of death is different from death itself.
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