Apart from this whole bullshit pseudo intellectual debate going about Hinduism in the below thread, the main point is that Nepal will always be a Hindu Nation.

"To seperate Hinduism from Nepal is to kill the Nepali identity" Shiv Sena Nepal

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=71141

We will not let manipulative opportunists like Prachanda establish their own communistic religion based on their own faith:
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=74774986341&h=TDxJM&u=0f30n

oh my god this guy is again bullshitting here about the origin. son it does not matter how and where hindiusim is originated, what matters is that people today follow this religion, same can be applied to another religion too. some stupid people does not understand and keeps bragging some western scholar about eastern/hindu relgion. son, first your research may be right or wrong- does not matter to the public who follows it.? or you are just trying to show how many books or paragraph you read. Son, there are many people in this forum who might have read and done hell lot of research, but they will not try to " SHOW OFF the way you are doing. If say buddhism is started just yesterday but I follow it, how does is matter to me? I will not like anyone try to denigrate my relgion with some kind of preposterous theory posted by stupid neo learner. Here is my suggestion, if you really want to test your arguments go to conferenece and seminar and learn what others have to say. What you are doing is nothing but a

plagiarism, and most importantly you have not learn to prove your point across, the thread is about "nepal is going to hindu country or not?" now it is already secular, it is already a redundant arguments plus it is not good idea to discuss about "your religion" or "my religion" and "your caste" or "my caste", this is will futher the hatred and disitigration, so your stating that how the relgion started does not make any sense. Many of your threads and arguments implys that you are up for dinigrating some caste/reglion, no? so you must be a racists/castists/ nomatter how much you learned but that will not have any positive impact on the develoment of nepal. GROW UP JPEG ELSE SOMEONE LESE WILL CHANGE YOUR FORMAT IN TO PDF OR PNG.

Homeji,"Personally, I don't like the idea of a Hindu Nepal. I like the idea of freedom, including the freedom to choose your religion and your beliefs. I don't want to see Nepal descend into a Hindu version of a religiously orthodox Taliban ruled Afghanistan.
But at the same time, I don't want to see Nepal descend into a Somalia or a Cuba in the name of people blindly following the notion of equality without using their heads. "  First of all you are contradicting urself, so you came from a NEPAL WILL ALWAYS BE A HINDU NATION TO ....Religious freedom for all !!! ha ha ha  TRust me no Nepali would like to see Nepal turn into neither Afgani Taliban or lawless Somalia.

 

Homeji,"But if people are going to abuse the notion of equality to take Nepal into chaos, I, and others like me will not hesitate for a second to promote a Hindu version of Nepal if that is the only way to stop chaos like the kind that Prachanda is doing with the help of human rights organizations eager to promote the notion of equality to the blind masses who don't understand the consequences of his actions."      Here again you are contradicting urself, you go by saying pplm are going to abuse the notion of equality and propel the nation into chaos. Then you go on saying that at that moment YOU WANT TO PROMOTE HINDUISM ? Now isn't that taking taking advantage of the situation to benefit ur own cause ?  HOW ARE YOU ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE PPL YOU ARE SCRUTINIZING ABOUT ?  To me you just sound like another opptunist. he he  As far as Prachandey hoodwinking the human rights organiztions and promoting his own Commi agenda ?  Well we all got tricked into that one didn't we ?  That is why Nepali citizens overwhelmingly voted for him, trust him till that video came into light.  Most dicktators seize power the same way the Maoist did, I mean that is how the 3rd Reich came into power, that is how Stalin established Communism in Russia.

Dear Kanchu, Kancha i was just summarizing my point. If you want to see my reasons, then look at
my other thread "The Origin of Hindu Religion"
click here: http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=71141
I have thrown you ample evident from veda scriptures to scholars findings.
Now if you have doubt, then you should doubt your own existence.
You claim that scholars work are bullshit and vedic text are the true doctrine.
Prove me to the point in what way can we take veda text to be the Truth!

jpeg/pdf/png/bitmap- i said enough on the thread you are referring to. hope,oneday  you will be wise enough to understand context and relevance of the arguments. Everything does not fit everywhere, you will know when you will go to Grad School.

" a fool tells more than he knows and wise knows more than he tells"

for wise-no need to copy paste, no need to put irrevalent argument.

Bathroom Coffee,

My intention was to contradict. I didn't make the arguments that I did to be nice. I did it to just show that religious arguments cannot be easily be countered with logic and reasoning. Whether that be religious arguments in favor of 'equality,' the way Prachanda is doing or religious arguments in favor of 'Hinduism' that I was making. 

You can think of my writn as a 'vaccination.' I gave out a small painless sample of a much greater and dangerous disease. Few people seem to understand the dangers of 'equality' movement in Nepal.

Equality worked in the United States because there was only one 'thing' that liberals were trying to 'equal': black people. Equality was a comparison between the priviledge of the whites with the blacks. Equality also worked with gender because it was a comparison with men and female.
Equality might even work with straights and gays.

But equality will not work in Nepal with multiple ethnicities, because when those multiple ethnicities at the bottom of the wrung start to equal each other, it will turn Nepal into a civil war.

This is the irony of democracy in the modern era. Right now, even in America, the political environment is so polarized between liberals and conservatives. The fact is that if the United States were to drop its constitution and start from scratch, it would probably decend into a civil war far worse than what we saw in Iraq. Right now with the amount of media there is, the notion of 'equality' just produces a lot of envy and violence. If it is true for the United States, what of Nepal?

Kancha since you know a lot than me, then i expect you to help me with this phrase from veda.

Srimad-Bhagavatam and Bhagavad-gita, states that anyone, including so-called low born men, may take shelter unto the Lotus Feet of Lord Krishna or His devotees. And this can be sanctified by initiation process.

Now here's a list of so-called low born men and addicted to sinful acts who can take shelter unto the Lotus Feet of Lord Krishna, meaning getting salvation, being saved from the Lord.

 kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa
abhira-sumbha yavanah khasadayah
ye 'nye ca papa yad-apasrayasrayah
sudhyanti tasmai prabhavisnave namah
upon translation is;

Kirata, Huna, Andhra, Pulinda, Pulkasa, Abhira, Sumbha, Yavana, members of the Khasa races
and even others addicted to sinful acts can be purified by taking shelter of the devotees of the
Lord, due to His being the supreme power. I beg to offer my respectful obeisances unto Him.
(Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.4.18)

In the purport of this verse Srila Prabhupada describes the Pulindas as the Greeks, from whom Western civilization has descended, and the Hunas as the Europeans, who later inherited the Greek legacy. The Khasas are the Chinese, or Far-Eastern peoples. The Kiratas are described in the
purport as aboriginal peoples from the Kirata province of "old Bharata-varsa." In another place Srila Prabhupada describes Kiratas as synonymous with Nisadas, residents of present-day Africa:

Now you tell me Kanchu why kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa became to be called low born men and sinful??
These sinful, low born men listed are not even of the same race from the people who wrote down the Veda yet they are call by such humiliating and degoratory name.
Can you give me one good reason. Kanchu or anyone?

If not i will give you next time....................if you want!


That's why Vedic Hinduism is full of crap! It plagiarize others religions, discrediting the owners.
Now isn't that copy, paste and modified. That's what vedic Hinduism is folks!
It tried to twist and turn so many facts and distort the truth and rewrite the mythology that they didn't see it coming that the very truth they twisted will come and slap their own face.