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Nice_guy_with_MBA
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Posted on 08-22-11 2:49
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Here's my scenario:
I have completed my MBA in US and no good luck finding a REAL job here in US. Have been working some shady jobs to survive and maintaining status joining community college right now. Recently, I have been offered a Job from one of the Private Banks in Kathmandu and they're offering me Rs. 30,000 per month...Personally, i think it's better than working here low paying jobs. I've a house in KTM , so don't have to pay any Rent..I don't really want to stay in US.
What worries me is: All my friends are here and i won't have lots of friends in Nepal.
I know it's always good to go back to Nepal but i don't know how i'll feel in Nepal. I am scared as well.
What should i do ? Should i return home ?
I am also scared that after seeing pictures of my friends going to Beach here in US, partying, driving nice car on Facebook will drive me crazy and unsatisfied in Nepal?
Any inputs will be appreciated. Positive or Negative.
Nice Guy with MBA.
Sorry about the ($) typo instead of Rs.
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purana kagaz
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Posted on 08-23-11 10:27
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लौन साथीहो , सबै नेपाल को बारेमा पढेर मैले पनि आफ्न बा-आमा सम्झेर भक्कानो फुटेर आयो । म पनि नेपाल जाउ-जाउ लाग्यो ।
बुढी सँग अङालो हालेर तरकारी किन्न जान कती रमाइलो हुन्छ होला ओह हो ।
ए बुढी आज मासु खाने कि घिरौला खाने भन्ने बाटो मा ओह हो ।
नाइट बस चढेर घर जाने ओ हो ।
म पनि आउँदै छु नेपाल ।
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US Returnee
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Posted on 08-23-11 11:09
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I am a frequent reader of SAJHA.COM, however, i don't usually post any comments. Today, I am compelled to post my thoughts on this thread because it's somewhat similar to what i have done and what i used to think when i was in United States.
I lived in United States from 2001 to 2008, completed my Undergraduate and Graduate Studies. Similar to the story of nice_guy_with_MBA, I always wanted to come back to Nepal for good and be with my Family. I used to miss my Sister and my parents so much that i had to come back to Nepal for good. I had some of my relatives in managerial position in some private Banks in Kathmandu and i was assured that i will have a Bank Job as soon as i return to Nepal. I returned to Nepal and started working as an Assistant Manager for a year than became a Branch Manager.
Am i happy ? How much I make ? How's the life-style ?
First of all, i am answering this from my all honesty. Yes, I am really happy (100 times more happy now in Nepal). I've a nice job. I make around Rs.55,000- Rs.75,000 per month now with all benefits and bonuses. I also have opened a small business, ie. a Family Restaurant in Kathmandu and it's been really success. I've hired a Manager for my Restaurant and he gets decent salary and i make profit as well. Whenever i am free on weekends (Saturdays), i hang out in my Restaurant, have couple of drinks with my wife.
Now i am 30 yrs old and i got married 2 years ago. I've been very successful. When i was in US, i used to think, when will i get married ? when will i have a nice family ? how will i bring my wife to US ? and all that status problems. I always used to think, i want to have a small family when i am still young, ie, when i m under 30 yrs old. Now i've everything that i dreamt about. I've my wife , a newborn child, and no problem of being in status and counting (30-90 days of unemployment in OPT).
I hang-out with my wife in Nagarkot sometimes and visit Singapore, Malaysia, Nainitaal (I love hill stations) and Goa. I also bought a nice car, it cost me about Rs 38 lakhs but i've financed it through my Bank which is not bad. The best part is, I am with my Mom, Dad, Sister and my Family. We have a nice house in Kathmandu and paying rent is not an issue. Also, we have some lands Outside KTM.
There's always solution to the problems that some of the user mentioned.
How's other lifestyle ?
You'll be amazed to see the lifestyle in kathmandu these days. Not showing off, but my wife loves to Bhat-Bhateni for our shopping (Not much difference than shopping at Walmart). It's been amazing after i came back Home.
Good Luck to you !!
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राछस
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Posted on 08-23-11 11:29
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Stop analyzing.. Just GO BACK. Trust me bro you won't regret it......Its an opportunity for you...just go man...its awesome over there..
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Poon-Hill
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Posted on 08-23-11 3:57
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Hey MBA brother good luck into the future.. i am pretty sure you will do good back in nepal. Please update us time to time when you go back to Nepal. Even better start a blog hai? Again my best wishes for your future. When the state of mind is good, everything will be better.
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Posted on 08-23-11 7:02
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If you're from a wealthy family, then go ahead, enjoy your life. If not, think at least 10 times. Struggle here. Work hard here. The rewards are beyond imaginable. I can't say the same about Nepal. If you fail, your relatives, friends, family will be mocking you. No such case over here in the States.
You gotta look at the bigger picture. Friends, family, food, you can have them aplenty over here too.
I do also have friends working as Managers (MTs) in Banks. They make a decent living but they work like dogs and are severely underpaid. 30-45k when you're not considering the price of building a new house is great but what will you do in case of an emergency? Again, if you come from a family that's financially well-off, definitely go, else stay man.
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Posted on 08-23-11 7:30
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I would say go if you are having difficulty here and money is not such a big deal back home. You should go back if you are able to digest that your monthly salary is less than your compatriots 401k in the states.I wanted to go back so desperately but I will be 30 soon and my options will be severely diminished in nepal once I reach 30.back to the question I would have taken your job if it was offered to me 2 years back.
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Posted on 08-24-11 7:07
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@ dolphin...by 2009, i already had a promotion and was awaiting the next one...i also got to visit india, malaysia, saudi arabia, qatar, uae etc on banking business...around this time, a few other banks were also making offers to me...however like i said, i quit and started my own business, which is banking related
promotions in nepali banks is normally wholesale, however out of turn promotions are given...based on work, need for retention etc (the usual source force also plays a big part)...there's a old boy's club in nepal just like anywhere else in the world...however, it's not always discreet...chalk that to our lack of diplomacy...possibly not being discreet is in our common DNA (so name dropping is very common, corporate politics is also amazingly big, so i guess i understand)
your colleagues will be a gamut of people with degrees from india, nepal, philippines, australia, UK, US etc, hence competition is high...but if you're a good seller, chances are those promotions will come fast (a guy i know with an indian degree got deservingly promoted thrice in four years...imagine his abilities!!)...having a good political connection (especially in rastra bank and/or finance ministry) also helps during promotion time...remember your colleagues will also have political contacts, hence having a good one is absolutely essential...or else they might cross each other out and a third person with stronger connecting might slip through (this part was for out of turn promotions)
if you stick to a single bank and join as a junior officer...the AM position is about 5 years away...a guy who joined with me jumped banks and is currently DM (deputy manager) in one of the newer banks...that's one step ahead of the AM position...US degree doesn't play a big part in hiring, retention and/or promotions...most people here consider US degrees passe (with so many students going and returning, i guess the aura has diminished)...possibly a harvard degree would still sell...most nepalis are familar with it being one of the best in the world...am not too sure about other ivy league schools
normally once you start working and start building contacts, many opportunities come your way...when i started in 2004, nepal only had 17 commercial banks...the count today is 31, hence a lot of opportunities for movement and if someone who's evaluated your work and/or is in knowledge of your abilities goes to a new bank, chances are that person will also take you along...all in all, the situation in nepalis banks are akin to the one in the US...contacts plays a big part, networking is essential, opportunities are galore
all in all, i'd say a banking career in nepal isn't all that bad...obviously the pay isn't like the US...but savings can be if the whole thing is charted properly...i guess that's about it...email me if you have any other specific questions
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ss_foryou
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Posted on 08-24-11 1:28
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Being silent visitor of Sajha for over a decade, I was first thinking of not writing, but then I decided against it. Here I try to write my own case with not so many details for those who want to observe from others. I hope it could be a help for those in need, for others I have nothing to say. I am sorry to write beforehand that I will not answer any comment written for my writing, though seriously interested people can reach me thru e-mail from my Sajha profile (I created to post this writing), I will try my best to share my experience with them.
I am now in Europe for a short visit, will be back to Nepal soon. I had never been to USA but wish to be there sometime with my wife and two children for a holiday trip, and even if it is not possible, I have no regrets. I think, ten years from now the world would be more like a global village where it won't matter if you live in part-A or part-B of the world.
About my case, after graduating in Nepal, I worked in a Nepalese company for sometime and I had a chance to visit work for an European company. I also had luck to frequently visit my country, so in the sense I was never "out of touch" from my homeland. To make a long story short, I could have "managed" to get citizenship of one of the European country (those days it was not difficult, even visa was given in airport arrival counter), but I didn't allow myself for the "paper marriage" or something similar. I remained with my green passport, and still I own it, though many times renewed.
Life was good (still good, and hope to be better in future), but you don't feel like being home when you're abroad. Nowadays internet gives you a feeling of being close to home, but it also gives you more homesickness. And since I was not permanently in one country, it was like travelling in two boats - and you do not belong to any of them. One might claim to not to be a racist, but everyone has it in his blood - though the quantity may vary. This is what I personally feel, but America could also not be much different. Even if you get citizenship, you are not in their group, though legally you have same rights like them. So a man with feeling will remain alone.
I see here many Nepalese around me, unlike people leaving for Gulf countries or even for Korea or Japan in working visa, people those who came here are from somewhat "well off" families. Most of they are educated, but they don't see future in Nepal, and unfortunately I don't see their future here either. They do work hard here, which they might have never thought of while they were in Nepal. They work, they earn well, and they spend well (saving makes rich, not earning, only some know it here.). This is the case who are legally here, those who are not, it breaks my heart in peaces to talk to them about their situation here and back home, though they have the same old jolly good arrogance the next day when they are sober.
I appreciate their dream of making a house in Kathmandu. But I wonder how. Even with a saving of lakh rupeese per month will bring them nowhere near of buying 4-anna land in Kathmandu in next 5 years (my assumption, price will not fall down since supply is scarce).
Forgive my gloomy words, but it could be eye-opener for some.
Now back to track again. A couple of years back when I was once again in Nepal, I talked with some of my friends and we gathered a group. Most of they had seen a couple of years life of "foreign" country (also US). So hard working was not a proble. We formed a group of friends. This has one reason, if you start something in your own, and by bad chances you failed once, you will not have the guts to start it again. In a group (also the thinking level should match), you have many eyes hands, and could start a work five times bigger which you would not risk to do it alone. And when you start something big, expansion will be huge. We are still in trail period, but already thinking of expansion in the related field. Since we collected money in as a group, nobody is hurt badly financially. Now their are people with money who want to help us financially to expand our project, only to be a sleeping partner in profit. This we had not imagines when we started the work. Seeing all this, not only myself, I am also bringing some of my European Nepalese back home - they only needed someone to show the way. Of course it is much harder to make a way than to walk on a readymade path.
Sorry for being discreet on what we are doing in Nepal. I could only tell that whatever you do, it will give you a big joy to do it in your country. So far our work is related to the "basic need" of people, produced in Nepalese soil - consumed in Nepal (now). A field which was never in dream thought by any of my friends (myself included) to involve into.
To the originator of this thread, I would like to wish you all the best for your new career back home. Life is fighting for solutions until death. Decision is yours! Personally I don't see many complications in your case, I am sure once you start your job, you will build up good network, and spend longer time in the same field (though may not in the same bank) - like the people from INGOs who keep shifting from one to another.
And please remember to do something good for those who want to do something (even whatever small it is) in their own country and want to be with their family together.
(For typing mistake, if any, because of long text and short time, I apologize in advance).
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Nice_guy_with_MBA
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Posted on 10-10-12 2:07
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Hello my Sajha Friends,
Greetings from Kathmandu !
Here i am again after a while. Thought i would give you some updates on what i have been upto in Nepal after returning from USA. While it maybe of no interest to many of you, i thought i'd update it any way.
So Yes, i got married few months ago. Guess what, I have been offered to be a Branch Manager in the branch that i was working. I'll be promoted very soon, that's a good news !
I have to say working in a Bank is not that bad. Pretty laid back most of the time. They have provided me a Car and a driver so i can go out shopping with my newly married wife when i am free :)
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Life has been very good so far, can't complain.
Now i feel that i did the right thing returning from USA. Well, i could have made little more money there had i gotten a good job but that didn't really work out well for me.
But i am extremely satisfied with my life here, I am HAPPY that's all.
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Happy Dashain to you All.
Good luck to you all.
All nice guys end up with MBA
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no_more_crush
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Posted on 10-10-12 5:24
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nice_gur_with MBA:
I still remember when this thread was originated. Glad to see the updates finally from the origibnator. Congrats for you:
- Success and achievement
- Married life
**Let your positive attitude flow and get going boy.
**This thread might help other Sajah readers too.
Happy for you.
~chEERs
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biwash prawashi
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Posted on 10-10-12 5:26
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goodluck bro....keep us updated
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Posted on 10-10-12 5:35
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good luck
but take lots of stuff from here so that u can sell there for extra cash.
electronics stuff,
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Posted on 10-10-12 6:07
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Opts read before you reply . Congrats brother. Happy married life and happy dashain. Its really good to see one of our sajha friend being successful and happy.
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Posted on 10-10-12 6:38
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Nice to see your post after a long time..
While strolling these thread.. sometimes your this post would cross my mind... and i would just imagine how you were doing in Nepal...and your work life..there.....
any way.. its good to hear very good things from your side.. now feels nostalgic ....about home..
Anyway.. wish you a happy life in Nepal and hope you enjoy your holidays with your family....
Happy Dashain .. to you and to everyone at SAJHA......
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Posted on 10-11-12 12:44
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Nice going MBA brother. I just came back from KTM too, and it seems like people are moving on happily no matter how crappy politics gets. Talked with few professionals in my field and found out they are saving more and more while i live on pay check to pay check. Will definately go back once i finish my dissertation, and contribute back. Living with parents and with a newly wed wife by your side sounds so heavenly right now which actually is my new motivation to finish grad studies and go back for good.
Decision well made MBA brother. Happy Dashain to you all.
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cool
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Posted on 10-12-12 9:48
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I heard Food & Beverage manager - or similar - at 4 or 5 star hotels in Kathmandu make excess of 1lakh per month. That's pretty darn good, yes?
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Posted on 03-09-14 3:13
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Greetings from Nepal once again.
It's been a while since i logged in to Sajha....Just wanted to update what i am doing these or whether i am liking living in Nepal after i returned back from United States.
I must say Life here in Nepal is beautiful. It will take some time to adjust back but eventually it'll be worth it. Loving my life with my beautiful wife, parents....and visiting sasurali sometimes on weekends is just a great feeling. ! sasu le pakayeko khana ani saali sanga guff- gaff....that's completely different from my frustrated busy life in US.
If you're thinking of returning back to Nepal, yes you can do it too !
Nice guy with MBA !
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Posted on 03-09-14 3:16
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@NiceGuyWithMBA: That's all good but how do we know that you are telling the truth?
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Posted on 03-09-14 3:34
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sasu le pakayeko khana ani saali sanga guff- gaff....
Creepy at best!
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