Male Chauvinist Pig

Of all the people in the Sajha, you Behoove. I would have never expected you would resort to this. Now that you have done it and I have completely lost my will to participate in Sajha. I still love the dramatization that you have provided in the narration, I must be imagined as evil witch and you are on course on your witch hunt. I wish for similar dramatization here as in Julius Caesar with "Eh tu, Behoove." At the end of this story you will be knighted, and offered accolades in the forms of LIKES, while I will be one to be torched in my defiant act of standing out and speaking.

I still have fond memories of you while you may not remember me, I am actually subscribed to your post. Over the span of two years I have followed you in shadow. No doubt, you are a wordsmith as you are able to depict me as evil person hissing and my screams having  ability to shake your computer screen. I wish I had those abilities. I don't mind you attacking me, I just expected  you did that with more class.

My "F Yous" were directly at the site's administrator lack of moderation. I never wanted to attack any one personally. It could have been my frustration that lead to the outburst. I admit I might have gone little overboard. Yes, I was very angry. I might not have participated in Sajha as much as you did, nor have I offered in the magnitude you do, but somehow I used to feel there is bond among the people who travel and settle thousands of miles away from home. Sadly, those people still hold same mindset.  No matter how angry I was, I still felt bad for the outburst and decided that I should offer my apologies. I entered the room and I was demanded "An apology".  I just could not surrender myself to bruised egos.

You decided to use adjectives such as harlots, hooker to develop my character as such I will regard my anonymity as a boon. Did you see me Behoove calling names at Neo? I only directed two "F Yous" to him and reflect once that you might as well have daughter one day and these constant harassing will serve you reminder.

Why would I direct my fury at Neo? Because I felt he was responsible to keep things in order. I saw his lack of actions as silent endorsement  of things that keeps going on. I just had to make myself heard. Don't mistake my unwillingness to debate with something else, it was actually my respect for you that I did not want to get involved.  That is only reason I left the room in the first place.

Like you said, neo could care less about individual like me. I can agree to that.

I am glad we will never meet in person and I never proclaimed messiah in anonymity. In fact, you have proclaimed yourself as messiah of the "Male chauvinist pigs" by writing this diatribe. Only a male chauvinist can find relation between changing a tampon and banning a user.

 

Yours Truly

Ojaswi Rana

 A lil spillage from the chat room ? he he lesson---> you are free to say what you want  & and y'all are entittled to your opinions. So wots the big deal ? he he Egos clashing. Those defending their usernames have something to gian-->  their reputations. Others dun give a fudge. But tis up to the site owner, once in a while the scale might tilt one way or the other but tries his best to maintain the balance.  Bottom line you cannot please everyone, there will always be someone ... 

This seems like Groundhog day. 

Ma-ma cha chha-guu plate ha-yaa di-saa.

Freedom,

You continue to beat around the bush, creating your own scenarios and you believe that it proves that you are the epitome of morality.

So I'm asking you again. You said I need to apologize. You have to tell me what exactly do I need to apologize for! Perhaps you have forgotten what you were asking me to apologize after all your digressions.

Also, while we are on the topic of apologizing, as Behoove mentioned your reverence to the white race, I think it is offensive to all the other races. I think you need to aplogize to the brown race, the yellow race and the black race, for saying that white race is superior to everyone else. You need to get off your moral high horses and apologize for your offensive beliefs.

In conclusion, if you appreciate the spirit of discussion, and you are a man of your own words, then you need to do these two things.

1. Specifically state what is it that I need to apologize for
2. Apologize to all the other races

freedom2012  bro,
simple logic , short words :
Neo has been cussed at, why do you think he should apologize to someone who cussed at him? 
I've no sexist motives here, but just pondering upon your morals and it's definition, just because she's a woman? You sound like more sexist here and trying to get into someone's pant. Once again no sexist motives.
I've had some personal bitter experience with her in the past even way before you poped up here, so I apologized to her based on that, why do you think Neo should apologize her. I see she instigated the whole fiasco, in my honest opinion, she should instead apologize to Neo. That F word was not good. It's weird, people are looking things here one eye closed. Remember, "no fire no smoke". Only she can put out that fire, nobody. Not even my asking for forgiveness. She'll be remembered as dark experience for ever here on Sajha after NAS.  Now, you should initiate same effort to make her to do so. This is really getting weird, and I sort of lost respect of your written words once you started demeaning people in very polite but hideous manner.

@Neo, I apologize if I hurt feelings of other races but I maintain that they are superior. I am also from the "other races" so I cant even see the logic there. A white person who says they are superior should apologize. But I still don't understand you equating that with using words like Randi on someone's daughter. @BT, there is a certain way we should behave, calling someone's daughter Randi, and making fun of tampons is unacceptable. You read Ojaswi;s reply she has admitted she might have gone overboard. Anyways, I do not see ANY reasons to demean womanhood. That tampon comment is valid for all girls, our sisters, our mothers which includes his own mother and sister. And you thought it was just for Ojaswi. Sorry that is unacceptable. You are free to lose your respect for me and increase your respect for the likes of Behoove, who are worthy of your respect. I do not need your respect nor do I want to have to do anything with people who do not know basics of decent human behavior. I thought you apologized but then you went and liked Beehove's comment that he would call her Randi again and would call his own sister a Randi too. I guess that sums up the purpose of this thread. Deconstructing Behoove and his friends. :)

Neo, once again, you need to apologize because you liked a post that made fun of womanhood. And defended it.

I do not mean to demean Neo with cake and sh.it analogy. He said Behoove's post is made up a good part(cake) and bad part(sh.it). If Neo, you found it demeaning, do tell me, I had gladly edit it and apologize to you. I am not perfect, ever ready to apologize and correct myself. Mostly so if i hurt someone.

@Freedom So you believe "might have gone overboard" is equates to apology? yah you can say that atleast she punched that phrase and blah blah but do you really think that equates to apology? On the topic, some words used by OP were really harsh but that does not mean that anger was not justified.

@Rahasya, OP never gave her a chance to apologize. Sajha never gave her a chance. He started a thread that called her Randi and made fun of all women (yes your mother and sister too). Look at the tampon comment. I respect Ojaswi that she did not disrespect anyone when she had a lot of reasons to. She called OP an MCP which initially I disagreed with but now 100% agree with since OP's confirmation that he is very trigger happy with the word Randi and will extend the same principles to his own sister.

 

@Freedom2012

I am curious what gives you the right to ask other people to apologize? How do you become such an authority on morality? Have you never done anything wrong?

@NepalUK, if you read the thread, I REQUESTED an apology. I have a mother and sisters that is why I found it very offensive. But yeah you are right, I have no right. But I believed that these people are educated so I made a request. These people do not consider what they did is wrong. Yes I have done wrong and have apologized too. But I have never insulted womanhood. Some mistakes need urgent corrections. All mistakes are not the same in gravity.

 @Freedom
As per OP's first post, he clearly mentioned that Rana gal was not ready to debate on Sajha Shout box forget about oppurtunity to submit apology. I also dont endorse words like Harlot and Tampoon. My problem is why arent you demading apology from Rana gal for whatever she vomited against Neo. If you can demand apology from  Neo to Rana gal then you should do same with Rana gal and ask her for apology. Its an open thread.

Freedom bro,

Rahasya is not mistaken in asking you why you did not ask Ojaswi to apologize. Why do you show hypocrisy in asking certain people to apologize but not Ojaswi? I am sure you would be interested to know that Ojaswi can also be a boy's name (Ojasvi) http://babynames.merschat.com/index.cgi?function=View&bn_key=71740 It would be funny if you were pissed off with Behoove for calling a guy a harlot. But then again you might be thinking about protecting brothers and fathers instead of sisters and mothers.

It's interesting that your whole strong stance you are taking in this thread is pivoting on your assumption that Ojaswi Rana is a girl.

"I do not mean to demean Neo with cake and sh.it analogy. He said Behoove's post is made up a good part(cake) and bad part(sh.it). If Neo, you found it demeaning, do tell me, I had gladly edit it and apologize to you. I am not perfect, ever ready to apologize and correct myself. Mostly so if i hurt someone"

I am not going to ask you to apologize for stooping to this level of analogy. It simply shows your inclination to use improbable and unrealistic analogies to prove your moot point. I will, however, request that in future you use more realistic analogies to prove your points.

"Neo, once again, you need to apologize because you liked a post that made fun of womanhood. And defended it."

After imploring you to spell it out 3 or more times, you have finally spelled it out and I appreciate your forthcoming on this apparently important matter.

As I have already told you, my like is for the whole post, for Behoove's right to express his opinion, for him taking a stance to denounce someone's apparent distasteful action. As I have said, it was not necessary to try to speak on my behalf, but he has every right to post what he felt like.

If I like a post it does not mean that I agree with every word used, and I have already pointed out that I did not and do not endorse any demeaning words to women.

So, at the end of the day, the apology you are demanding is more for your own sake because your definition of "like" is different from mine. And if it makes you happy, I will apologize for thinking differently from you. I apologize to you and anyone else who felt I was offensive to women by liking that post. I hope this puts your reservation to rest.

Next time I like a movie where they use demeaning words to any race, creed, ethnicity or gender, I will be sure to apologize to you for endorsing those demeaning words by liking the movie.

You are like a lonely crusader asking movie watchers to apologize for watching a Nazi movie because you think it is offensive to the victims. I am sure you get your own mental satisfaction by your persistency, but I am sorry to say it is teetering on the edge of ridiculousness to be honest.

@Rahasya, I have no reasons to do so. As per Neo, there is no love lost between Neo and Ojaswi, so there goes all your demand for apology. I do not know what happened inside the chatroom but I am sure Behoove gave his best shot to explain what happened. There are no excuses for the words he used. NO excuses for denigrating womanhood. Ojaswi is the victim so you will be lucky even if she forgives you. She does not need to apologize anymore. Her response has been civil in this thread. Before you ask an apology from someone, make sure you have not denigrated that person to the lowest possible level of denigration. In such an instance, the person who has created MORE damage need to apologize.

Neo you do not have to apologize out of compulsion. Unless you realize what you did was wrong what use faking tears?. And I am sorry, I will be more careful with my analogy next time. I was just writing another analogy but realized it will not be proper in essence so I deleted it. Again you are repeat that Behoove's post is a mix of good and bad. So technically if what you say is true, he should have 1 thumbs up and 1 thumbs down from you. The thumbs down is also there to be used you know that right?. As for me, my defense of Ojaswi and all women is a thumbs down for him.

 Freedom2012 = Ojaswani Rana.................period.

What is this ?? World War III
Alies(ne0, behoove, bitterTruth) Vs Axis(freedom, rana).
How abt me playing part of UN?
Who else wants to be member of security council...
shree pashupatinath le hami sabai ko rakshya garun..

 OK this is now getting more ridiculous than ever.  Here are some of my questions to Freedomji as he seems to be police of the freedom in internet and saviour of all the ladies out there.
1) Do you even know what does Ojaswi's other nick name "Sabita_bhabi" does in the chat room? I am not a saint to be judgemental about how she acts there, but if you come and see her there acting, you would not even call her a harlot as it would be demeaning to harlot. So when you do not know the whole context why do you think that behoove or Ne0 has to apologize? and for the whole fiasco, as the starting point was Ojaswi herself, why doesn't she need to do the same?
2) As I have seen through all the discussions here in sajha, you seem to be obsessed with making a point, and when someone tries to beat that point with logic, you seem to completely avoid the valid logic, go around beating the dead horse, and come around saying, "The horse is alive, The horse is alive." Are you obsessed with winning in internet? If you are, what kind of happiness does that give you? or do you just need a hug? 
3) So now, Ne0 has apologized and Behoove has already shown his a$$ to apology, you need the apology in your term now? How do you want Ne0 to apologize? Do you want him to get on his knees, drop some tears, and say Sorry Ojaswi for demeaning whole female race, Sorry for my stupidity? or there is some other procedure? If so, would you like the give details? 

Well, I hope you will get hug from someone so you do not need to always win in internet to be happy. Happy weekend. 

 @ Juggy,

Ojaswi owed an apology BEFORE Behoove;s post. Post that, she has become the one to need the apology. Whether Ojaswi is a boy/girl and what she did has become immaterial. Cannot you see his post is demeaning to a woman?. There is no way a decent person could read and find it justifiable in anyway. I do not know what Sabita bhabi did but it is not about just 1 or 2 ladies but, womanhood in general. I consider myself a gentleman that is why i found it disgusting. And i saw Neo, BT, Rahul giving a thumbs up. I I thought they are gentleman too. I was certain they had realise what they did was wrong. Even Behoove i had some hope. But then he said he would call his sister also Randi dashed all that hope. 

I am just a normal human being and i found his post distasteful to the core and voiced my objection. It is true there are worse visitors who used worse words but some posters have no hope, that is why i ignore. Sometimes you just expect some decent behaviour from certain people even though i can understand this is a virtual world. 

An apology is the first step towards a new life. You cannot apologize and still remain in that old life you left behind. There must be some changes in your after an apology. Neo has again given a thumbs up to you which again is a defense of Behoove. By default, it is a defense of words he used and nothing more but a silent approval of his demeaning attitude towards women. When a girl slaps a guy and that guy violates the girl in anger, the slap can be forgotten. The guy needs to apologize for violating the girl.