Let us all unite against theanti-Hindu forces in Nepal. CAN WE DO IT?

Let us spread message against what is happening to Nepal.
WE WANT IT TO REMAIN A HINDU STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can we unite?
This will be the real challenge.
Look at how Indian medicos/engineers are uniting against job reservation.

Well, OUR RELIGION,HINDUISM THE ODLEST RELIGION IS BEING REMOVED FROM NEPAL. AND NO ONE IS BOTHERED? SICKENING.

Do you know what troubles start if this happens.
PLEASE ALL WAKE_UP AND SEND A STRONG MESSAGE TO THE CORRUPT & CROOK POLITICIANS IN NEPAL.

WE WANT NEPAL TO REMAIN HINDU!!!!!!!!!!

SPEAK EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nepal should be Hindu country. period.

We gotta ask SPAM to let people choose by vote to keep Nepal the only Hindu nation in the whole unverse?

or

Nation without religion and identity!

or kick all the bastards ass by voting them out in election

Vhootee,
i certainly agree with you.You have right to speak.and i respect your opinion.i feel the same way brother but this i feel is healthy dicussion.But what ticked me off was your hint towards our culture.I don't live in Nepal either and i do have regular job too.

Achievement is not everything implementing the achivement is.when we decide on something on the pressure from self interest groups.It may not always be wise decision.I have no plans to destroy public property neither i enourage anyone to do so.I am very liberal democrat .Saying that doesn't mean i do not respect my culture and religion.Time and method was the factor that i am not satified with one issue.

.I believe people should have right to choose and those MPs right now in parliaments more than half will not be re-elected.(if nepalese have some what brain left).There terms are already over.

And i think you should not have said"typical nepali mentality" cause people in sajah as far as my knowledge are educated socially and culturally though they tend to sometime use foul languages and act funny.
Peace my friend.

To all against hindu being offical religion:
we have seen that we do not agree in this topic and so many of us are educated.So guess what is going to be in villages.but what do you guys care you don't have to live there as one of my fren stated above.Congratulations this is your biggest gift for Nepal- religious violence and my fren believe it or not i am going to start donating money to Biswa hindu nepal .It is upto them how they are going to utilize.Many feel the same .it has intensified my beliefs and we need to preserve our religion.

"Believe it or not i am going to start donating money to Biswa hindu nepa"l .

Count me in ImI...

wow Imi what a good thinking...
Well in a country where nearly 40 % of the population counts indegnious people, the development of hatred from janajati to bhramin and chettri,, it is clear that it will bring more extreme in both side iif again nepal is to be declared hindu state. Janajati origninally follower of buddhism, who follow both buddhism and hinduism, were getting extreme thinking dashain and tihar is not their religions, it is the fact if you have heard it or not.....it was happening when nepal was hindu sate also...
Make hindu sate, again the demand willl come to make secular state from other side, and we will see religions fight. You may say that nepal was good when there was hindu sate also but during that time there was growning extreme people against it........
you have been saying our country lost identity...well we can fight for religious thing and again nepal will have new identiy..i bet most people identify nepal as a country of mount everest and buddha than the only hindu country..isn't that two also unique identity of nepal where other county don't have .i don't understand why people are not ready to accept other religions equally...
if you guys feel to bad about it,then pressure your leaders to do voting for hindu sate, people will decide..or pressure them to take concesus.

To answer your question .I am not talking about reverting back and forth this issuelike football.I am just saying what SPA did not right thing and all Hindus should work to preserve their religious values.When Jews can why can't we??Like u said extereme brings extereme.Seeing that the only hindu country in the world has lost its name forever i cannot be happy.May be you can.

there was rise of Christianity in HINDU NEPAL!!!!. They give paracetamol and pretend that it is amrit from jesus.we are unfortunate that they are expoilting poor nepalese.Our Govt were always fighting with each other and didn't care about its people.But the religion that spreads lie among innocent villagers and for some money is right thing to do and THET WERE DOING IN HINDU COUNTRY!!!!!!!.did any one stop them. There were hardly any chruch now they openly preach Jesus.IN HINDU COUNTRY!!!i know how they spead christianity i studied in that school .were they able to convert me????????
muslims has mosque in the heart of ktm .IN HINDU COUNTRY!!!

FOR ALL JANJATIS OF NEPAL:
They are poor and uneducated .It is from one exploitation to another .No need to jump and be happy that nepal is secular country .It is sad to say this :your future is not so bright. Hindu never stoped u guys from convertiing into islam or christianity.U should jump when u over come poverty level.
Janjati were tied under one umbrella Hinduism.Don't say that it was forced.Force was when Muslims mogul forced to convert all hindus of india. Did hindu use that kind of force???????
So now what now all those Hindu Rai, Kirat, GUrung is going to be. They will all convert to buddism .???and tharu - what religion christians because they get money???
Saying janjati is 40% are all buddist is statement i don't agree with u.


It is definately sad to see that some Buddist are so much against Hindu and nepal being hindu .Where as they were considered most respectful under Hindu Country.they were always treated equal. thoses who think that all shakyas and Bajrachary are BUddist and in sensus they were interpreted might not be whole truth.Most of them practice both.

My question is what was wrong in the Name when there is more than 70% hindu?by law everyone was equal.Yes and now There will be more fight. Who gives right to SPA(corrupt, retarded and more over not real representative of Nepal as their time period has expired) to decide on sensitive issue like that????

Did i say 40 percent janajat is buddhist??? did you ever read my sentence properly..
What i said they originally followed buddhism and later on they followed both of them.
and the growing hatred among bahun and chettri have made them think they are not hindu they need to quit dashian and tihar...i told you they follow both...but some of them follow buddhism only..you have been blaming janajati being illetrate and poor..
how disgusting it is????? ,,,it was the demand from janajati people to make secular even beore maiost....
Make hatre between both of them, people like you can't see other religious equal and you make me think twice what to say about religious...in fact i am liberal........
make hindu state if you can...

The issue of religion should have been left by the politicians as is, because Nepal has never had a problem with religious extremism. Everybody took for granted the fact that Nepal was the world's only Hindu country. Did Buddhists have any problems with Nepal being the world's only Hindu country? Heck no, they did not. This issue opens up a whole knew pandora's box, which should have been left unopened. If you play with fire, expect to be burned. This will surely drive Hindus towards religious extremism. Have we had any problems with Hindu zealots, shiv senas, and the like in Nepal? Never!
Hindus are a dying breed! The religion does not make any room for proseletyzation, meaning that while many people have left the religion, nobody has entered into it, meaning that the number of Hindus are shrinking. What's left for Hindus to do? Breed like rabbits? Take arms and chase away people of other cultures/religions? It is tough being a Hindu in this world. We're a dying race. In India for example, the Muslim population is increasing by leaps and bounds, because their religion does not allow them to use condoms, while the Hindu population is just stagnant. We are just dying. In a couple of centuries, we will be as rare as pandas are rare today. Abrahamic religions like Christianity and Judaism lure credulous folks into their fold by offering these poor people money, by spewing vile nonsense about Hinduism, etc. Read some articles written by missionaries--they are salivating at the thought of converting people in Nepal! Take a good look at Korea(you know which Korea I am talking about, South Korea of course) and contrast it with Japan. Japan is still predominantly Buddhist/Shinto because Japan became a developed nation before missionaries were able to disseminate their teachings. Korea wasn't as lucky because they are one of those nouveau riche countries, and missionary work was in full bloom before Korea was able to do anything about their poverty problem. To sum it up: people convert in droves because they are poor, and missionaries know how to exploit this fact.

Bahuns, Chettris/thakuris and Madhesis combined make up more than 50% of Nepal's population. Hindus are definitely Nepal's majority, no matter how much the consensus has been manipulated by the authorities. What happened to the rights of the majority? I have never believed in organized religions in the past. Never did I visit the Pashupatinath temple when I was in Nepal, but I just feel that Hindus are a dying breed. We don't let people convert to our religion, while people are exiting out in droves. Buddhism *does* make space for conversion. There are tons of Westerners who are Buddhists--Richard Gere the most famous one. We are definitely dying. We don't allow people to convert. In 200 years, India and Nepal will be Islamic or Christian. It is an inevitability if the trend continues. We don't let people become Hindus. I think Hindus have to fight for their rights. There is no other way. We'll end up extinct otherwise.

"SECULAR NEPAL" IS BEST FOR ALL RELIGIONS, BUT MOSTLY FOR NEPALI HINDUS.

UNDER "HINDU NEPAL", THE NEPALI BRAND OF HINDUISM HAS LANGUISHED. IT HAS BEEN HIGHJACKED BY INDIA-BASED VHP, SHIVA SENA, AND BJP WITH THEIR STOOGES IN NEPAL AND WHAT NOT!

I DON'T FEEL PROUD TO SAY "NEPAL IS THE ONLY HINDU NATION IN THE WORLD"! THIS IS NOT A STATEMENT OF ACHIEVEMENT - IT IS A STATEMENT OF IMPOSITION, OF SUPREMACY.

I DO NOT EVEN SAY "NEPAL HAS THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN IN THE WORLD" (SO DOES CHINA) OR THAT "NEPAL IS THE BIRTHPLACE OF BUDDHA." THERE IS NO POINT IN RESTING ON ACCIDENTAL LAURELS. THIS IS LIKE LOSERS GRASPING AT A FLOATING STRAW THINKING IT WILL GIVE THEM SOME RESPECTABILITY. FALSE SENSE OF RESPECT SURE.

NEPAL NEEDS TO GROW UP. NEPAL NEEDS TO PUT SUPERIORITY OF ONE RELIGION OVER OTHERS BEHIND FOR GOOD, AND LOOK FOR OTHER KINDS OF ACHIEVEMENTS TO BE PROUD OF. YEAH LIKE, APPA SHERPA CLIMBING MOUNT EVEREST OVER A DOZEN TIMES AND SETTING A WORLD RECORD. LIKE SOME MAHATO GUY IN RUSSIA BECOMING VERY SUCCESSFUL AS AN ENTREPRENEUR. CELEBRATE GENUINE ACHIEVEMENTS - RATHER THAN IMPOSITION/SUPREMACY!

YOU THINK I FEEL PROUD TO SAY "NEPAL IS THE ONLY HINDU KINGDOM IN THE WORLD" WHEN I HAVE TO CLAMP MY NOSE EVERYTIME I CROSS THE KUPONDOLE-THAPATHALI BRIDGE.

WHEN SOMEBODY POINTED OUT TO ME, "BAGMATI IS NOT A RIVER, BUT A SEWER", I KNEW THIS IS WHAT "'HINDUISM" HAS BECOME UNDER 'HINDU NEPAL."

IT WAS AS IF THAT GUY HAD CRIED: "YEAH BUT THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES."

EAT THIS! "HINDU NEPAL" IS KILLING OFF HINDUISM. DALITS ARE FLEEING; CHRISTIANITY AND BUDDHISM ARE GAINING GROUNDS, THANKS TO THE SPACE CREATED FOR THEM BY THE 1946 MOVEMENT. "ONLY HINDUS MAY ENTER" IS NOT MAKING TOURISTS/TRAVELLERS HAPPY. HINDUISM IS ATTRACTING PRIMARILY THE WESTERNERS WHO ARE INTO GANJA, HASH, DHATURO - NOT SPIRITUALITY. UNDER "HINDU NEPAL", HINDUISM HAS DEGENERATED.

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY?

INDIA-BASED FUNDAMENTALIST HINDU ORGS AND HINDUS AND THEIR STOOGES IN NEPAL (PALACE, BHARAT KESHARI SINGH, THIS SUBEDI GUY OF SHIVA SENA NEPAL) ARE NOT INTERESTED IN HINDUISM OR THE UPKEEP OF HINDU SYMBOLS (TEMPLES, RIVERS, ETC), THEY ARE INTERESTED IN HINDUISM AS A TOOL TO STAY IN POWER AND ENRICH THEMSELVES. HINDUISM FOR THEM IS A STEPPING STONE. A MEANS TO AN END. PASHUPATI NATH HAS BECOME A POSTERBOY OF CORRUPTION, GREED,
SINS, CHAKRIBAD, CONTROL OF PASHUPATI NATH BY INDIAN SHANKARACHARYAS (WITH NEPALI HINDU PRIESTS HAVE TO PLAY SECOND FILLES TO THEM). UNDER "SECULAR NEPAL", THE POSITIONS OF THE FUNDAMENTALIST HINDUS WILL BE CONSIDERABLY WEAKENED.

THEREFORE, "SECULAR NEPAL" MAKES GOOD SENSE FOR THE NEPALI BRAND OF HINDUISM IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE.

Lets form an organization and raise our voice.

Jai Nepal!
We should be organized to bring the anti forces down.

Karmapa i have been reading each and every post you have written..you make very good points but it is useless for some of them.......

I got u point Mr.Karmapa well said.Still can't we do that kind things to strengthen hindu values under Hindu country.Like any infrastructure and development in Nepal .It is obvious things have been neglected but blaming hinduism for entire thing is wrong.

I guess you are not proud to say anything good about Nepal. When you speak to friends what do you tell about Nepal.Or say you are from america???You don't like the fact buddha was born in nepal .Neither Mt everest in Nepal. Nor being only hindu country,not even culture.you just don't like nepal.as it implies.you are just not proud to be nepalese.it is your wish .I have nothing to say.

karmapa, you have a point. but i would rather put the whole notion of remaining a hindu nation or a secular one on ballot. we are going for constitutional assembly very soon right? why not put all issues/differences on a ballot and decide in a more civilized manner? if the majority wants hindu nation then be it. if they want it secular, offcourse. you/i/spa/bharat keshari/vhp/king or even pasupatinath can not decide just like that. what if tomorrow girija bau comes and say hey we surrender all our power to comrade prachanda and if someone goes against it they will face dire consquences? that doesn't sound logical to me. SPA didn't have mandate to decide on that one. it was not even on the table. its all about appeasing maobadi. do i have to say anything about those suckers?

ImI,
I understand what you're saying and it's good we're having a healthy discussion. Even uder an alocohol influence, I'll not imply that everybody here in Sajha are uneducated "socially and culturally".I know that fact very well.
And I didn't mean anyway to offend your reiligion, tradition anyway.
My only reason was to bring my point of view and share with the people her in Sajha.People are freaking out with "We can eat cow" threads, which makes it very unrational and amateur. I don't think people will start slaughtering cow after this.Nepal has and always be a Hindu nation, no matter what people say, period.
My interpretation with this decision of this month, it wil be good for the future of our country. If there's a point and time if we all have to convert to Chritainty and that helps our age old poverty and corruption, so be it. Atleast we'll be a better nation. I'll choose proserity and success over faith. I'll because I'm a hard core liberal. Bro, Liberal is not in the faith, it's in your heart and mind.
"I have no plans to destroy public property neither i enourage anyone to do so". Well that might be your intension, it has always has been the source of initation.
And I do not see the point where people will go and start fighting on the streets. Who are they going to fight with? I'm pretty sure hindu will fight with another hindu, police, politicians. I don't think Buddhist will fight, it's against their religion. Muslim, well they're so few, it'll make no sense.
I wonder why are you so worried about your religion with BILLIONS of Hindu around the world, it will never die. If you do, then you'll get attacks and high blood pressure soon.I don't think its the mere survival of your religion that bothers you, it's the power and the dominance, no pun intended. That's what I see, tell me if I'm wrong and how.
"i am going to start donating money to Biswa hindu nepal". Good for you. Keep it up. Just an advice, you can whisper them that it's for cleaning the Pashupati temple. See how it goes.
I'm thinking to join the Maoist in that case then. They might get my point, who knows.

"हिन्दुराष्ट्र" भनेर घोषणा गरेको भए पनि त्यस्ले कानुनी रुपमा के नै अरु धर्म
माथी थिचोमिचो गरेको थियो र? त्यो त सिर्फ एउटा सिम्बोलिक रुपमा मात्र त थियो। सबभन्दा ठुलो टाउको दुखाइ राजा हिन्दु भएकोले भएको थियो गैर हिन्दुहरुलाइ, राजा कमजोर बनाए पछि त कुरै सकिएको थियो नी।
५-१० बर्षमै यस्को नतिजा निस्किने छ। अब धर्मको नाम बाट पनि मान्छेहरु संगठित हुन थाल्छन् र हुल्याहाहरुको जमातलाइ झगडा गर्ने नया निहु मिल्छ।
'८०% हिन्दु' भनेर त जनगणनामा भनेकै छ नी। पहिले देखिनै नाम मात्रको हिन्दुराष्ट्र त थियो।
अब हिन्दुहरु पनि झन कट्टर भएर निस्किन्छन्। शिवसेना नेपाल उसै त कामै नपाइ लाठो लिएर घुम्ने गर्छन्, अब कस्को टाउकोमा बजार्ने हुन्, रिसले।

Enough of your bullshit Karmapa,
Nepal being a Hindu State had nothing to do with Bagmati turning as a sewage and King having monopoly over the government. It is the lack of education and consiousness of Nepalese ourselves.

ss74k,
What are you talking about? Of course janajatis are uneducated, it is not disgusting it is a fact.
"Neither there will be bamboo, nor someone will play flute."
Janajatis objected Nepal being a Hindu state because only they saw was the so called upper casts Hindus enjoying the higher positions in government and everywhere. They blame Hinduism for that and put white rice tika without red powder as protest against Dashain.
So they thought that only cutting off the bamboo will make nobody play flute. But they didn't know that the same bamboo could make a house and bring everyone under the same roof and protect from falling apart. They don't realize that निंगालो or नर्कट don't make a house.

nephalisia...oh yeah ..so you belong to the caste which has 100% literacy..the country where there is lot of illteracy...you think only bhramin and chetrri are educated??? you can see if you go to villages.....Did you take the polls?
I am not saying all janajati is educated but to put all janajati's under illeterate is totally wrong....
I don't know the reason why some of the janajati put white tika...i have never heard the reason you made why they put white tika??? once i asked them a long time before but now i forgot...

Nepeshila, what education and consiousness are you talking about? Just because somebody has his /her support for a secular state, doesn't imply lack of education instead it is an educated judgement. "Secular" the word itself has always been a positive word.
Karmapa,Vhootee and many others are the new future of the country. This is a new awakening for our nation. A nation where all religion and caste are equal. where freedom and justice prevails, irrespective of caste and social status. We need new ideas and new leaders, to guide the country. We should all get together for the collective good of the nation instead dwelling on a symbolic status which has never done any good and has only served to inflate egos and provide a sense of power & dominance.

Nepeshila, what education and consiousness are you talking about? Just because somebody has his /her support for a secular state, doesn't imply lack of education instead it is an educated judgement. "Secular" the word itself has always been a positive word.
Karmapa,Vhootee and many others are the new future of the country. This is a new awakening for our nation. A nation where all religion and caste are equal. where freedom and justice prevails, irrespective of caste and social status. We need new ideas and new leaders, to guide the country. We should all get together for the collective good of the nation instead dwelling on a symbolic status which has never done any good and has only served to inflate egos and provide a sense of power & dominance.

Nepesahila, How educated you are is clearly shown from your statement, " Of course janajatis are uneducated, it is not disgusting it is a fact". I can go on and on with list of Janajatis who have made tremendous contribution to the nation but it will be a watse of time to try to convince you. Your language saddens me, and your personal attacks aggravates me. 'Nepal is a secular state', it is futile on my part to make you realise the importance of this declaration, but many years from now, when you are way gone from the world and your children are all grown up they will be think of this day as one of the greatest achievements in the history of our Nation.