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Patan
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Posted on 05-14-13 10:30
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I am surprised to see pictures of sai baba in people's houses even in the US. The trickery of Sai Baba has been exposed many times but people continue to regard him as a devine presence. I really get annoyed with sai baba bhaktas.
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Kiddo
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Posted on 05-14-13 10:41
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Belief is what it is: Belief. It's not called Logic, it's not called Science. So trying to make logic out of belief is an futile effort. Why do people belief in God? Why do people believe in after life? If you start analyzing these things logically, you will find that at some point logic ceases, and yet billions of people believe. But his deeds were exposed, you might ask. Wasn't Christ nailed and killed? Wasn't he challenged to resurrect himself and yet he stayed their helpless in the cross? So how come people are still following him? Well, they believe he died for our sins and resurrected himself after a couple of days. Sai's desciple will tell you the same. This is complicated even more by the fact that there exist different versions of Sais. Some might say Sai 4.0 was corrupt, but the original Sai was the divine one. Others will argue differently. Trying to understand this logically is like trying to watch a micro-orgasm with 3D glassess, you gotta change your lens...logical lens won't fit here.
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bittertruth
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Posted on 05-14-13 10:44
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One of the reasons to escape out of their fear and depression, they hold onto some sort of belief.
Some research has shown that people who believe in certain beliefs are less depressed and lead normal life.
Probably, Sai Baba, to say figuratively, is acting as placebo for all their psychological or mental or social miseries.
I see no problem if they want to have that benefit, let them be, why bother?
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bittertruth
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Posted on 05-14-13 10:46
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@kiddo, was that really needed? lol..
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Patan
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Posted on 05-14-13 10:47
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I should not say annoyed. Well you make some friends and everything seems normal about them, then you go to their home and see sai baba's pics plastered all over the place like he's some god and it just bothers you why on earth are sane people doing this.
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bittertruth
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Posted on 05-14-13 11:13
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One of the reasons to escape out of their fear and depression, they hold onto some sort of belief.
Some research has shown that people who believe in certain beliefs are less depressed and lead normal life.
Probably, Sai Baba, to say figuratively, is acting as placebo for all their psychological or mental or social miseries.
I see no problem if they want to have that benefit, let them be, why bother?
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 05-14-13 11:48
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Same reason people go to god thinking he or she will solve all their problems.
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Kiddo
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Posted on 05-14-13 12:30
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Probably not bittertruth. But the fact that we are still discussing it, Patan is still asking the same question that I see here posted every other month or so, I thought some response was needed.
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bittertruth
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Posted on 05-14-13 1:01
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@kiddo, thats what I thought ,
I thought I answered him, but he asked the same question twice on this very thread.
I hate to say, I pasted the same answer to his question
@patan, "annoy" and "bother", they're almost same :)
it's like 'belch' or 'burp' .. lol.. you know what I mean?
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freedom2012.
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Posted on 05-14-13 1:20
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Yeah i also find that a little strange when Sai Baba has been proven to be fake and a charlatan. But like Kiddo said, some of them pray to the original baba who was lucky to be born in a different time and thus still remains legit. That one is different from the one who died recently.
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snurp
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Posted on 05-14-13 1:40
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no_quiero
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Posted on 05-14-13 3:07
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In INDIA and NEPAL all the BABA business is the most flourishing business. I will tell you why-
1. All baba will use cheap tricks and deception to make people follow them.
2. Fraud businessmen will give their BLACK MONEY to BABA or i dare say BABA BANK rather than real Bank to DODGE income tax. Its because there is no clear record of the income of baba. Devotee will give money in the name of god. Thats why BABA will always be good friend with businessman and netas. Because he is hiding their money.
3. BABA will invest small amount of money may be 1 percent to make schools and hospitals ,It may look good on surface But actually it is an INVESTMENT to make more people follow him and donate money. Don't believe , ask many sai baba follower. They follow him because he has made schools and hospitals. however, making schools and hospitals will also help them hide black money.
One should not forget those hospital may cure 100 patients but in reality it is made with the blood and death bed of thousands of people because most of those money comes from the black money which in reality may have come from smuggling, serious corruption etc.
4. Every god that has taken birth on earth had a simple life and suffered a lot. In hindi SHREE RAM went to live in a forest for many years relinquishig his crown. Same happened to pandavas. In christianity , Jesus was a simple shepherd. He was weak and suffered in the name of people . He death was very painful. Gautam Buddha meditated in jungle for several years, Gave up his wealth.
Shirdi Sai baba too had a very simple life as a jogi.
HOWEVER, sathya sai baba beats all the logic and had a very opulent life. He lived in big palace, had a close relationship with corrupt politicians, drove around in mercedes. Even after his death, investigator found over 100s of kilos of gold in his room. He used to use Imported perfumes and deodrant which was later found in his room after his death.
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giordano
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Posted on 05-14-13 3:36
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I beleive in Ram Dev Baba....Got a problem?
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Kiddo
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Posted on 05-14-13 4:39
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no_quiero, I wasn't aware of point #2. I always wondered how come these babas are so rich, so it's not just beliefs then. TIL.
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Rinzi
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Posted on 05-14-13 4:59
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whomsoever they choose to believe is their personal matter. Thinking you are right and others are wrong is the source of all conflict. We is better to be non judgement abt it and repest their religious freedom. As for belief, it does not matter whom or what you believe , it is the quality of belief. If you truely believe a stone is a god , then even with stone you will experience grace.
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Gorikopoi
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Posted on 05-14-13 5:18
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For me god is in our heart not in church, temple or mosque. If we do good stuff we r god n if we don't we r devil. No one has seen god so why? Lots of people think Saibaba worshippers r wealthy mades thats why people follow him
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Power_Ranger
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Posted on 05-15-13 9:34
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Satya Sai Baba's material manifestations are magic. They are not super natural powers. If a video camera were to record every moment of his life, you'll see that he practiced to perform those magic tricks. The devotees will find it very shocking to see their god's some of the behind the scene activities.
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Patan
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Posted on 05-15-13 2:47
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It is belief you are right but why do people continue to regard him as god even after the fraud is out in the open? Maybe it is blind belief.
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no_more_crush
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Posted on 05-15-13 5:56
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