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ujl
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Posted on 03-14-14 10:14
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Rama: "If you and I are both non-existent, then who are you and who are you teaching?"
Vasistha remained absolutely silent.
Rama taunted, "Why are you silent?"
Vasistha: "Rama, I did not keep quiet because I could not answer your question, but silence was the only answer."
(Source: Yoga Vasistha, Swami Venkatesananda)
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Posted on 03-14-14 5:55
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oummmmm oummmmmmm ? please answer me...
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pshrestha78
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Posted on 03-14-14 5:57
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in case if you're wondering i asked you a question with silence between first oummm and the second oummm...if you want me to ask again, here it is oumm..(silence)........... oummmmm...i'm sure you're going to reply me in silence as well i guess, or not reply me at all cuz no vedic reality no question or answer exist?
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ujl
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Posted on 03-14-14 7:54
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@pshrestha78, what exactly is your question? Be specific.
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pshrestha78
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Posted on 03-14-14 8:52
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never mind Ujl, i have lots of questions and i have lots of respect for you too. i read your posts with great interest.. i do have questions but i have no time.. thanks for sharing great stuff at sajha..
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Kiddo
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Posted on 03-14-14 9:01
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My question is, what really does that mean?
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ujl
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Posted on 03-15-14 10:43
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@Kiddo.....Can you be more specific?
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Power_Ranger
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Posted on 03-15-14 11:17
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Why didn't Rama understand Vasistha's silence answer?
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Posted on 03-15-14 11:29
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Power_Ranger, To give you an uppertunity of asking this question.
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Posted on 03-15-14 11:42
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So, I asked the question. Where is my answer? Are you going to answer me with a silence?
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Posted on 03-15-14 12:05
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In reality answer is really not important thing. Answer brings you in surface whereas questions if directed correctly take you to deeper and deeper realms of existence. The mind which seek answers are petty minds, which wants to be pacified in little stupid things and remain there making alot of noise. Answers are nothing but clinging to some petty conclusions and ideas which in turn makes life itself superficial needing even more answers for constant stimulation. Real questions are those which does not have the answer. The mind which can stay in the state of the questions with out seeking any answer (conclusions or results) is the meditative mind. If it is in the interface of known and unknown with questions directed to unknown then it is scientific mind and if it is from unknown to unknown then it religious mind.
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Posted on 03-15-14 1:36
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"मुर्खस्य मौनित्यम बलम" त हैन ? तर्क को कुनै सिमा र आकार हुदैन ; बिभाद को अन्त्य हुन् यी दुइ घडी का समय, दुई अर्थासास्त्री का सिद्दान्त अनि दुइ कुकुरका भुकाइ एक नभए झैँ हो !
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ujl
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Posted on 03-15-14 1:58
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@Power_Ranger......I am glad you have the spirit of inquiry. One must possess this quality to understand life. Now, you asked why Rama didn't understand Vasistha's silence answer. Will a 4th grader understand E = MC^2? Absolutely not because the 4th grader don't have the faculty to understand Einstein's equation. He must wait many years and work hard in order to understand this great equation. Similarly, Rama was not in a position to understand Vasistha's answer because he lacked the direct experience of inner silence and couldn't decipher the meaning behind Vasistha's silence. In other words, true knowledge only comes through direct experience which Rama didn't have; and,Rama thought all questions could be answered through the help of verbal language which is not true. This was the field where the knower and the known merge together. There is no subject-object relationship here. When the knower and the known merge together, who knows what? When this happens, contentment spontaneously arises and there is deep silence which is real.
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Power_Ranger
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Posted on 03-15-14 2:00
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In reality answers are not important? So, it's not important that we know what happened to the Malaysian plane that disappeared? Or we just keep quiet and say OM? Is it not important that we try to understand diseases and try to come up with medicines/therapies? Or we just say "real questions are those which does not have the answer" and go back to meditation? I say, in reality, answers are important. Answers are not important when you leave home and go live in jungle :-)
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Posted on 03-15-14 2:08
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ujl, Thanks for your answer. I was under the impression that Lord Rama would have known Vasistha's silence answer since he is the Lord. Or is he not Lord Rama? Or is he a regular Rama guy? ;-)
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ujl
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Posted on 03-15-14 2:21
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@Power_Ranger...... Rama was an ordinary guy destined to become Purusha. In Hinduism, he is the Avatar of visnu in human form. So, he has to go through human experience.The knower of Purusha becomes Purusha. The aspects of knowledge is infinite. Answers are important for this relative life. In the deep sleep state, there is neither question, nor answer. What is there, only deep silence!
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Power_Ranger
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Posted on 03-15-14 3:03
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ujl, We do not live in deep sleep state. Therefore, answers ARE important. I'll give it to you that answers are not important in deep sleep state. I'm not sure if you live in deep sleep state. Do you? In this world, you don't go to the court and say answers are not important.
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ujl
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Posted on 03-15-14 3:24
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@power_ranger..... Yes, answers are important. You need to answer according to the question. If someone ask you, what is the capital of Nepal; you answer, Kathmandu. So answers are indeed important.
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Kiddo
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Posted on 03-15-14 8:22
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@ujl I was asking about your original post. If they are non existent then who are they teaching? Silence. Whaaaat?
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Posted on 03-15-14 9:56
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one of my fren name is Rama....Are you referring to him?
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ujl
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Posted on 03-16-14 11:48
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@ Kiddo.......This is the field of self-knowledge. Vasistha gave answer to Rama's question in silence and said, "Silence was the only answer." What do you understood from this? The question which Rama asked was not an ordinary question. It was regarding Self-knowledge. Self which is beyond any duality cannot be comprehended by mind, senses, and intellect. So, Vasistha had to adopt a technique where it transcended all these duality. The moment we utter a word, it means there is a speaker, a listener, and a medium through which the sound is traveling. So, Vasistha's only option was to adopt a technique where there is no speaker and no listener. When there is no experiencer and no experienced, what remains? If you can understand this, you will understand what Vasistha's "Silence" was about.
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