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 The Dictator that almost was.
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Posted on 09-17-16 11:06 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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About a year ago, or perhaps two. I had posted a thread commending the deeds of CIAA and thanked Lokman Singh Karki for his work thus far. I believe it was Rahulvai who cautioned me, suggesting to look into the tainted past (his hand in suppressing the people war) of Mr Karki. He even mentioned his first hand experience with Mr Karki I believe. I started looking at the chief of CIAA with reserved optimism.

It didn't take too long for the optimism to erode after seeing small fish getting arrested and harassed and sharks floating freely. Then came Dixit story as well as Dr KC's claims. More and more it became apparent that the chief of CIAA was exercising too much power for his personal good. If Nepal was heading into dictatorship, the fear didn't come from Gyanendra/Paras Shah, it came from the man himself: Lokman Singh Karki.

A friend had mentioned that Mr Karki holds key information about top political leaders, including Prachanda and he might be using these leverages to create his personal influence. It wasn't a blackmail, more like I will help you, you will help me. 

However, there might be silver lining to this story, light at the end of the tunnel. Lokman might be on a hot seat. After getting the ridiculous response that the file for cabinet's briefing on Lokman's appointment was lost in earthquake, Supreme Court has rejected the response. They appear to have agreed to analyze his appointment which technically hadn't met the requirement set for the chief of CIAA, and on that ground he might be declared not fit. Sure this could easily be dismissed if those with power pull the right chains, but hope has emerged that justice might prevail.

 His latest stunt, threatening to drag Maoists to interrogation regarding the financing irregularities of Maoist camps over a decade ago, suggest that the "conspiracy theory"'my friend had postulated might have some truth to it. Perhaps he didn't get enough support from Prachanda so now he wants to drag the whole party with him, or is threatening to do so if he is not rescued.

It does seem we might get lucky and avoid being ruled by another dictator with absolute power (even party leaders don't have that much power); but I don't want to be too naive. I am well aware all these stunts will fade away, The powerful will remain with more power - because as they say, change won't happen because those with power don't want the change and those who need change don't have the power. He might remain the most powerful person in Nepal.
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Posted on 09-18-16 1:40 AM     [Snapshot: 68]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Totally agree with you kiddo. This man is pathetic. I hate to say this but I wish someone would bring him down and never let him come to the power again.
 
Posted on 09-18-16 3:20 AM     [Snapshot: 99]     Reply [Subscribe]
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hold on...
No doubt Lokman is opportunist scumbag like anyone public figure in there but recent move by him brings dictatorship in Nepal? wtf ?

1. court, govt are two separate institutions, how he can force supreme court to follow what prachanda says ? is there a link i'm missing? u mean govt can hide evidence? but how far?

2. even assuming that is true, how Lokman can halt investigation if he is spared in his case when already started? wouldn't that be obvious ? Plus we all know Maobadi did indeed gotala and holds a powerful PM positions now and future (look third party running country) and you fear term limited Lokman would turned in to dictator and rule nepal nepalis ? thru what? Akhtiyaar ... power ? lol common...

3. Mr. Dixit isn't just a innocent senior journalist. he is the powerful oligarch behind shaping nepal influencing the govt. by his $$$ power, and there is no doubt that he and his family got rich kissing and killing (defrauding) madan samsher and rani jagadamba softly, they were pauper before. Also no doubt Lokman took personal revenge but i say - "hey call someone else corrupt if only your if record is clean"
I used to revered Govinda KC now I think I've big doubt. His agenda should be health sector not who runs the country, this time he blew it insisting Lokman's resignation over very simple incident which Akhtiyaar already pulled out and KTM Uni agreed no more involvement. yet KC still shouting over one time benefit of doubt case, who is behind KC ? DollarMani and the similar oligarchs ? u have to question.

4. Now the recent case, It more looks like personal vendetta from supreme judge Karki, remember, Lokman office claimed Dixit is related to Judge Karki and hence she can't be partial in fraud case of Dixit and she got pissed vehemently denied it that they are related, Could this be the reason Supreme court is loud and is interested reviving the case?, this judge is waco, don't believe in DNA and declares judges should be for social activism (not justice? haha) Also if Supreme court can revive case again and again like too many recently why is it even called a supreme court? just called it Appellate No 2 .

It sounds like I'm for LOkman, I damn not care, only pointing if u fear lokman fear his enemies too and they hold the bigger power influencing average people. Lokman can turn dictator to the politicians and govt employees only , not the average people he just don't have that power!! meanwhile average people can enjoy the chess game!
 
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प्रचंडेको दाहिना हात हो र उनीहरुको बचाब गर्न एसको पजनी गरिएको हो |
Interfere  out of jurisdiction is it not misutilization of power?
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Posted on 09-18-16 9:08 AM     [Snapshot: 203]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@controversial just watched narcos. And let me tell you what I learned from it. If you can take off the symbol for now you can take care of the rest later. If you watched narcos or know about pablo's story, govt went after sole pablo first and it was hard. There were many other like pablo who were in same business but focus was only pablo and they went after him with everything. When pablo was done, they took care of the rest in next couple years. Here I think its the same case, right now lokman is the bigger corrupt, take on him now and you can focus on the rest later.
And supreme court can and should revive old cases, just not often.
He definitely can effect average nepali's life. He is responsible to prosecute corruption, if he plays personal favor game, that will definitely effect all nepali's life and its really important in context of Nepal.
 
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Ke hudaichha yaha?
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Posted on 09-18-16 10:34 AM     [Snapshot: 311]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Lokman Lokaman Lokman ! Nobody can do shit to him!.... He is the ghost, an anonymous ( recent earthquake took his files away) ...a powerful person than Nepal Government ...what else now
 
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Your criticism is valid Controversial.

I had made a leap of argument by calling him a would be dictator without providing much argument to it. To some extent, this is because of input that I have gotten from my sources in Nepal for which I cannot provide any proof - hence I decided not to mention their points. Let's just say that he is revered as a very very powerful entity in Nepal right now. leaders come and go, he has been an icon of stability and power right now.

Is it possible Dixit is using his connection and influence in Supreme court to exact revenge upon Mr. Karki? Sure it is. As for Dr. K.C. I still trust this man and feel what he is doing is right. If you get excessive unwanted interference from a polar strength, you don't only want to settle the impending matter but want to make sure that this polar strength is striped of his unnecessary power in the future as well.

There's a great article posted today in Setopati and I'd rather post it here as it is very apt for our discussion:

लोकमानविरुद्धको लडाइँ

"उनको कार्य सम्पादनका दुइटा पाटा छन्। एक, अख्तियार इमानदार कार्य सम्पादनबाट चुक्दा भ्रष्टाचार झन् गहिरो र संगठित हुँदैछ जसको प्रमाण वर्षेनी ट्रान्सपरेन्सी इन्टरनेशनलले निकाल्ने एउटा मापक -करप्सन पर्सेप्सन इन्डेक्स_ मा नेपाल निरन्तर खस्कँदै गएको छ। अक्टोपसले झैं भ्रष्टाचारले समाजलाई यसरी जकडेको छ, नागरिकको ठूलो हिस्सा यसबाट क्रूद्ध हुनुको सट्टा यसैमा अभ्यस्त हुन थालेको छ।

दुई, कार्यक्षेत्र बाहिर गएर उनले गरेका काम यति गम्भीर र पदीय मर्यादाविपरीत छन्, ती काम आफैंले विभिन्न क्षेत्रमा दण्डहीनता र अराजक अवस्थाको सिर्जना गरिरहेछन्। निजी कम्पनीहरुबीच सेयरको गैरकानुनी किनबेचको सहजीकरणदेखि सिंगो मेडिकल शिक्षा क्षेत्रको सुधारलाई अवरुद्ध गरेर आफन्तहरुको व्यापारिक स्वार्थ पूर्ति गर्नुसम्म, तजबीजको भरमा राजनीतिज्ञ र कर्मचारीहरुको जासुसी गर्न राष्ट्रिय अनुसन्धान विभागलाई अवैध रुपमा परिचालन गर्नुदेखि सार्वजनिक सम्पत्ति व्यक्तिको नाममा नामसारी गराउनसम्म, त्यस्ता कामको सूची लम्बिँदो छ।

यस्तो अवस्थाप्रति नागरिकहरु क्रूद्ध भएर सडकमा ओर्लंदासमेत देशको राजनीतिक कित्ता अकर्मण्य बसिरहनुले यस खालको दण्डहीनतालाई थप प्रश्रय दिएको छ। राजनीतिज्ञहरुसित उनको मिलेमतोचाहिं कति निर्लज्ज देखिन्छ भने विभिन्न राजनीतिज्ञहरुले सार्वजनिक रुपमा स्तुतिकै भाषामा लोकमानलाई चलाउन नसकिने र चलाउन नहुने भनेर बोलिसकेका छन्। त्यसरी बोल्नेमध्ये प्रत्येक या त अख्तियारको छानबिनमा तानिइसकेका वा भ्रष्टाचारको गाढा संशयबीच अख्तियारले उन्मुक्ति दिएकाहरु थिए।

अहिले नेपालमा लोकमानको अवस्था एउटा लोक कथाको त्यस्तो पात्रको जस्तो छ जो कुनै पिछडिएको समाजमा गएर राजाको अभिनय गर्दा गर्दै ऊ आफूलाई राजा सम्झन पुग्छ र समाजले पनि त्यो कुरा स्वीकार्न पुग्छ। दुखद कुरा के भने संसारका धेरै समाजमा अधिनायकवादी शासनको सुरुआत यसरी नै भएको छ।

त्यसैले अहिलेको लडाइँ लोकमानसित नभई उनलाई राजाको जस्तो भूमिकामा पुर्याएर उनको चर्को ज्यादतीबीच उनलाई त्यहीँ राखिछाड्ने र त्यो अवस्थाबाट सिर्जना हुने दण्डहीनताबीच आफूलाई अझ धनी बनाएर भविष्य सुरक्षित गर्न लालायित राजनीतिक नेतृत्वसँग हो। तर त्यो नेतृत्वमा लाचारी र आत्मस्वाभिमानको अभाव कति चर्को छ भने ऊ दण्डहीनता र कालो अर्थतन्त्रको पृष्ठपोषण गरेर समाजलाई अधोगतिमा लगाएको लाञ्छना स्वीकार्न तयार छ तर लोकमान वास्तवमा दोषी हुन् कि हैनन् भनेर संविधानले तोकेको प्रक्रियाबाट छानबिन सुरु गर्नसमेत तयार छैन।"

(source: http://setopati.com/bichar/53701/)

 
Posted on 09-19-16 5:31 AM     [Snapshot: 529]     Reply [Subscribe]
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All I wanted to convey was due to the dirt baggage LOkaman Karki carries from his resume, this is blessing for average nepalese to have him this position and fun to watch how he fights the other corrupt units whether that is PM or supreme court or govt employee or oligarch like Mr. Dixit. Imagine a perfect guy had this job, nothing would happen he would compromised every hour . since Lokman's enemies are even dangerous for average people, let Lokman do some fighting as long as he could last. He is a hero sort of unwanted though. And about Setopati, it is not a journalism site i'ts a activism site like any other papers or sites.
 
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I really don't understand how it is a blessing for average Nepali. All he has done is catch small fishes, specially the ones that have wronged him. This is exactly the very definition of CIAA. अख्तियार दुरुपयोग संस्था को प्रमुखले आफ्नै अख्तियार दुरुपयोग गर्दै छन्, हामि चै तालि बजाउने?

You also seem to dismiss Setopati without exploring the pointers. Even Fox News churns out real news sometimes. के हस्तछ्यप् गर्यो, कसरि गर्यो त्यो बुझ्नु पर्यो मित्र ले. Too much power in an authority that only acts out of vengeance to silence his opposition is a dangerous thing. चेतना हुनु पर्यो.
 
Posted on 10-17-16 9:24 AM     [Snapshot: 1026]     Reply [Subscribe]
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From Setopati:


लोकमानको घरमा म्याद टाँस्न नदिने समूहको नेतृत्वकर्ता उनकै कान्छा ज्वाइँ


अख्तियार प्रमुख लोकमानसिंह कार्कीको घरमा म्याद टाँस्न गएका सर्वोच्च अदालतका तामेलदारलाई अवरोध गर्ने समूहको नेतृत्व उनकै कान्छा ज्वाइँ प्रवल थापाले गरेको थाहा भएको छ। 

सोमबार बिहान सर्वोच्चका दुई तामेलदार लोकमानको पुरानो बानेश्वरस्थित घरमा म्याद टास्न पुग्दा त्यहाँ करिव एक दर्जन युवाले अवरोध गरेका थिए। सो समूहले त्यहाँ म्याद टाँस्न नदिने भन्दै टाँस्ने भए अख्तियारमै गएर म्याद टाँस्न धम्क्याएका थिए।

यो समाचारको फोटोमा क्याप र कोठे सर्ट लगाएका (रातो गोलो भित्र) ब्यक्तिले म्याद टाँस्न अवरोध गर्ने समूहको नेतृत्व गरेका थिए। उनी लोकमानका कान्छी छोरी आकृती कार्कीका श्रीमान् हुन्। राप्रपा नेपालका अध्यक्ष कमल थापाका भान्जा प्रवल नेपाली कांग्रेस काठमाडौं जिल्ला कार्य समिति सदस्य हुन्। गत १३औं महाधिवेशनबाट उनी काठमाडौं कांग्रेस जिल्ला कार्य समितिमा चुनिएका हुन्। 

सेतोपाटीले फोन गरेर 'तपाईँले किन सर्वोच्चको म्याद टाँस्न तामेलदारलाई अवरोध पुर्याउनु भएको हो?' भनी सोध्दा थापाले आफू म्याद टाँस्ने ठाउँमा नगएको र अवरोध पनि नपुर्याएको दावी गरे। 

सेतोपाटीले तपाईँ त्यहाँ उपस्थित भएको फोटो हामीसँग छ भन्दा थापाले सो फोटो आफ्नो नभएको जिकिर गरे। सेतोपाटीले उनीसँग २ बजेर ५३ मिनेटमा कुरा गरेको थियो। थापाले त्यसको ५ मिनेटपछि २ बजेर ५८ मिनेटमा आफ्नो फेसबुकको एकाउण्ट 'सन्स्पेण्ड' गरे। फेसबुकमा थापाका प्रशस्त फोटा थिए, जुन यहाँ प्रकाशित फोटोसँग मिल्छन्। थापाको फेसबुक एकाउण्ट  facebook.com/prabal.thapa  अहिले पनि 'सस्पेण्डेड' छ। त्यसको केही समयपछि थापाले अाफ्नी श्रीमती अाकृतिको फेसबुक एकाउन्ट पनि सस्पेण्ड गरेका छन्।

प्रवल थापा एन्फाका पूर्व अध्यक्ष तथा राप्रपा नेपालका सांसद गणेश थापाका भान्जा पनि हुन्। गणेश थापाविरूद्धको भ्रष्टाचार मुद्धामा उनलाई अख्तियारले सफाई दिएको थियो। जबकी अन्तर्राष्ट्रिय फुटबल महासंघ (फिफा)ले उनलाई भ्रष्टाचारको अभियोगमा कारबाही गरेको थियो। 

अख्तियार दुरुपयोग अनुसन्धान आयोगको प्रमुखमा नियुक्त हुन कार्कीको वैधानिकता नपुगेको भन्दै अदालतमा दर्ता भएको पुरानो मुद्धाको पुनरावलोकन गर्ने सर्वोच्चको निर्णयपछि कार्कीलाई अदालतमा उपस्थित हुन म्याद टाँस्न लागिको थियो।

अख्तियार प्रमुख कार्की देशबाहिर रहेकाले अदालतमा उपस्थितिका लागि उनको पुरानो बानेश्वरमा रहेको घरमा म्याद टाँस्न सर्वोच्चले तामेलदारलाई खटाएको थियो।

अधिवक्ता ओममप्रकाश अर्यालले दायर गरेको कार्कीविरुद्धको मुद्धा सर्वोच्च अदालतले पहिले खारेज गरेको थियो।  एक महिनाअघि प्रधानन्यायाधीश सुशिला कार्कीसहितको इजलाशले लोकमानको मुद्धा पुनरावलोकन गर्ने निर्णय गरेको थियो।

पुनरावलोकनको निर्णयलगत्तै अख्तियार प्रमुख कार्की आफ्नो पूर्वनिर्धारित भ्रमणमा क्यानडा गएका थिए। सरकारी भ्रमण सकिएपछि उनी विदा लिएर पछिल्लो एक महिनादेखि क्यानडामै बसिरहेका छन्।

उनको घरमा म्याद टाँस्ने सर्वोच्चको प्रयास बारम्बार असफल हुँदै आएको छ। यसअघि म्याद टाँस्न सर्वोच्चले पठाएका तामेलदार म्याद नटाँसी दुई हप्तासम्म सर्वोच्चको सम्पर्कबाहिर बसेपछि अदालतले सोमबार अर्का दुई तामेलदारलाई म्याद टाँस्न पठाएको थियो।


 
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नेपाल बिगार्नेमा मुख्य रोल यिनै हरु हुन, जो पहिले राजा संग नजिक थिए, र अहिले माअोवादि, काङ्ग्रेस, राप्रपा हरु संग नजिक छन, सबजना बास्केट अफ डिप्लोरेबल्स हुन नेपाल को कन्टेक्स्टमा।
पुनस्च धेरै जसो यिनिहरु राष्ट्रियताको चर्को कुरा गर्छन। hypocrites, jingoists.
 
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I have been wondering why not only Maoist but other political parties are also quiet on this Lokmaan's situation. Are they scared or do they have personal/political advantage? He seemed to be very powerful though.
 


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