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Lokay
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Posted on 01-23-17 10:05
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hello experienced stock investors, Please share your thoughts and recommendation: What are the prospective stocks for going long in 2017? Someone like me who are not experienced yet would benefit from your insights.
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Nepali_hu_ma
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Posted on 01-23-17 12:24
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Here are probably two best ones for 2017 CMG - Chipotle Mexican Grill, Inc. NFLX - Netflix, Inc.
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Lokay
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Posted on 01-23-17 2:40
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Nepali_hu_ma, Thanks for the ideas. Can we hear some further ideas on potential stocks ?
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Nepali_hu_ma
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Posted on 01-23-17 3:19
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I usually trade options instead of stocks. However, I do invest on long term ETF holds. Another good one is TSLA - Tesla Motor Company.
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Posted on 01-23-17 3:42
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NOK kasto hola. Nokia is coming up with new phone price is low now and buying some won't hurt. What you guys think of it.
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Nepali_hu_ma
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Posted on 01-23-17 3:50
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My advice to beginners are to invest in the company you are well aware and have idea about. For example: I invest in NFLX because I have a detail knowledge about the earnings, revenue and growth about the company. I closely follow their earning calls and as a netflix subscriber, I am well aware of their new shows and content. Their original content has been a big driving force last Q4 quarter. They made local original shows for european countries which lead to increase in subscriber base outside US - which was good news. I personally have no idea about NOK. Also, I like to invest in bigger company with low volatility. And if you are trading options for bigger company with higher volume and stock price, even the small 0.5% change means 100X the option purchase winnings.
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Lokay
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Posted on 01-23-17 3:57
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Thanks Nepali.., MTEverest, Which ETF do you recommend? Looking at TSLA and NOK as well. What are your thoughts on : Face book Sprint TMobile Would like to ask also all who have been working on Stocks for long? What brokerage firm are you using. I am using robinhood app in ios. This does not charge the fees. not sure , but seems it charges a cent a share which still is relatively cheap to buy or sell any number of shares at wish.
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Posted on 01-23-17 4:00
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If you are a beginner, start playing around with Wal-Mart, McDonalds etc. Then, slowly, consider other stocks.
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Nepali_hu_ma
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Posted on 01-23-17 4:06
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I personally use Vanguard ETFs which are known to be one of the oldest, consistent annual return ETFs, 7% minimum annual returns. Some of the best known tickers for Vanguard mutual funds are VISVX, VLCAX, VTSAX, VWINX. You can buy ETFs for vanguard ticker from robinhood as well without any cost. Vanguard stock ETFs have ticker (VTI... etc) Vanguard themselves offer mutual fund for same ETFs for free if you invest $10K or more and sign for electronic statements. I use optionshouse as my broker. They have one of the best platform for options trading (risk analysis, pre and after hours trade window, realtime news...). They do have fee but not as bad as other big brokers/traders.
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Posted on 01-23-17 4:08
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साझाका Stock बिसेसग्यको मनसाय र सुझाब नलिई किन बेच मा नलाग्नु होला ? उनको मुख्य सल्लाह कम मुल्यमा किन्ने र मूल्य ब्रिद्दि भए पछि बेच्ने ? तर कुन चै ब्रिद्दि मूल्य बिक्रिकारक छ त्यसको मापन चै के हो ? What is the right price to sell? Is it your targeted profit margin or something else?
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Nepali_hu_ma
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Posted on 01-23-17 4:13
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Magorkhe1 - I am bit weak in reading Nepali language... lol (I know, kind of embarrassing), so I might not be able to answer your question correctly. In terms of options, I play daily market - meaning I try to sell same day as I buy or very next day. This way I control my greed on losing significant money at once. At the end of the day, I am satisfied with the money I make, be it $1 or more. In terms of stocks, ETFs or Mutual funds - my goal is to continue investing till I retire, so that I have monthly passive income. I have been stock/options trading since 2003.
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GeetMaiJawaafDiu?
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Posted on 01-23-17 4:41
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Lokay is looking to invest in stocks not trade them. Most of you guys are coming up with trading ideas.
Nepali_hu_ma, do you still consider mutual funds in your self-managed portfolio in this day? What are WE missing out on?
Why not just ETFs instead? I don't trade options either. Some say nobody got rich by selling/buying insurance. How true is that? Could you or somebody explain? They also say trading options provides massive leverage if you are cocksure about your trade. Most of us know what leverages can do when trading goes the wrong way.
"What is the right price to sell?" Magorkhe, That is the million dollar question [ at least in the long run ]. There exists the concept of moving-day averages but also of a "break-out". You have to calculate your own selling price.
Lokay, if you are looking to be in the stock market, you should study, read, understand, develop a philosophy of your own, start with a hot-dog-stand size portfolio. and gradually increase after you have seen most of the four seasons first-hand. Blue-chip stocks like McDonald's, Walmart may not be bad tips.
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Nepali_hu_ma
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Posted on 01-23-17 5:45
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Geet
do you still consider mutual funds in your self-managed portfolio in this day? What are WE missing out on? Why not just ETFs instead?
Yes, I still have mutual funds (specifically Vanguard MFs). Because, mutual funds bought and sold in Vanguard website itself is free (needs to be $10K or more transaction). Buying ETFs for Vanguard ticker from a broker will have fees, and the fees add up really fast (for large transactions). If you are buying small amount, it might be ok. And even ok to use robinhood to buy ETFs. When I started trading, we did not have robinhood, and robinhood does not have options trading (not good for me). Vanguard mutual funds and ETFs are same, just ticker different in trading.
I don't trade options either. Some say nobody got rich by selling/buying insurance. How true is that? Could you or somebody explain? They also say trading options provides massive leverage if you are cocksure about your trade. Most of us know what leverages can do when trading goes the wrong way.
Personally, I like options trading more than stocks. If you start, you need to start with money that you won't feel sorry or regret even if you lose. Options is the way to make money fast (and lose money fast as well if you don't play it right). It is bascially gambling but you can use algorithms and knowledge to have an idea of gain or loss. It is a risky investment but I look it as "high risk, high rewards". I get it that everyday is not a sunny day but you can have "puts" for rainy days. Basically, you need to know every inch and detail of the company you plan to play options with. If you are young, high risk is the way to go. I started with stocks, but you can only make so much in a month or a year. With options, you can make it in a day. And also, if you have small amount to begin with, options pays it well. 
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Lokay
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Posted on 01-23-17 6:38
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Nepali, 'use algorithms and knowledge'. Does not sound simple but could it be elaborated ? How could possibly we can 'use algorithms and knowledge'? in stocks? in options? It has been very much informative to have all participants insights in this thread. Any other experiences ?
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Nepali_hu_ma
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Posted on 01-23-17 7:06
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Lokay,
Yes, using algorithms for trading options or stock might not be easy. But, nothing is easy in life. You do have to learn and read a lot.
Here is the basic information on algorithmic trading http://www.investopedia.com/articles/active-trading/101014/basics-algorithmic-trading-concepts-and-examples.asp
As for knowledge based trading, again you have to read a lot, listen and have good knowledge about a particular company. I usually listen and read earnings report a lot every quarter. The key of stock or options trading is to learn about the company you use and or like. This way I know what particular company is doing to hit the estimates or is going to miss the consensus.
Again for example: Amazon (AMZN) - people use a lot, revenue is great but the profit margin since the start has been negative until very recently. CEO/CFO usually gives an outlook of the company during quarterly earning report. Reading past stock chart will give you an idea on how investors view the particular company. Credit/Stock ratings for company by banks such as underweight, outperform, overweight, buy and hold will provide you an idea when to buy and when to sell for quick profit.
Trading is a learning game. Learning, patience and perseverance pays off.
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Posted on 01-25-17 2:58
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Sell all your stocks. Get out of the market. Shiller cape ratio is very high. Next recession may come at 2018/2019. Be prepared !
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Posted on 01-25-17 3:10
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Thank you GeetBro: I have been holding two socks for over 6 years and did not sell it when it was real high. I did not know , was that right time and right price?
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