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jaymehta
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Posted on 05-22-06 3:48
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Why is there so much hatred against the King? Well, many are still wondering the "hatred against the King". Why? and for what reason? Is it just because he is the King and often a soft target? How could people demonize the King without a rational theory? I suppose, many are angry for the killing of 21 people in the streets. I personally think that "state" is above everything. To act as a realist and for the safety of the state itself, many governments around the world use force to curtial violence. It is imortant that state needs to protect its existence. We cannot blame the King or the State for killing of 22 people in the streets of Kathmandu or other parts of the country. How about Moaists killing of thousands? Many ignore the fact that Maoists with the help of their guillera illeterate army have killed thousands? Where is the justice? How could they be in parliament with so many innocent blood in their hand. Democracy does not work in this manner. Targeting King does not solve o give solution to existing problems in Nepal.
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chakku
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Posted on 05-22-06 4:30
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great going with azn...any luck yet??
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lootekukur
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Posted on 05-22-06 4:33
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I DONT NEED ANY LUCK, I AM HERS AND SHE IS MINE...CHAkkU hahahahaha IT WAS NICE OF YOU TO PUT AN EYE OF SUSPICION ON VB. AND VB DID A CLASSY JOB TO GET OUT OF IT.... BOND MOVIE IN THE MAKING IN THIS THREAD....CHAKKU AND VB.....BONDS OF SAJHA.... CHAKKU THERE LIES MY SHOES. GO GET IT. WILL YA? LOOTE
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chakku
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Posted on 05-22-06 4:40
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i've a weired feeling there're several royalist clones spread around in sajha... sometimes i think there're only 4 people giving gyane supporters number in sajha at 7, hence the paranoia
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chakku
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Posted on 05-22-06 4:41
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VB please don't be offended if it doesn't apply to you...and apologies in advance
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VincentBodega
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Posted on 05-22-06 5:03
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Chakku, No problem at all. Personally I dont think there is any harm in being a royalist. I dont think theres any harm being anti royalist. Whatever it is, its just so good to see the passion associated with such kinship. Lately, I have witnessed (at least in the threads of sajha) that it has almost become "cool" to hate authority. Be it the King, or the PM or the leaders. I have no problems with that, but if you are going to defend someone, be passionate about it and put your whole effort into it. Not go with what your best uncle told you in one of his emails and you are just doing an half ass job in playing his prodigy. And more important, this ideology of "if I can show my opponent is more feeble than me, I am by default strong" should be discouraged. Showing the King is inept does NOT automatically mean that the leaders are capable and vice versa. I really think anyone who spends about a week's worth of time can have a decent influence from the amount of information that exists in sajha.com. I think its very dangerous to have off balanced store of information. There are certain people who try and restore that balance and I think these people should be at least heard. Its very easy to be a part of a crowd and speak the same language. The challenge is to speak against the crowd and win some respect. Thats all and before I rant on...
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chakku
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Posted on 05-22-06 5:08
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VB, agree with you..nice one
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ImI
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Posted on 05-22-06 6:23
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JayMehta , You forget ,Even Girija, suppressed andolan of commies(uml) killed many people at that time.It is not king who gave birth to maoist.The king later became their agenda.They had 9 sits in first parliamentry election .But Girija and then powerful leaders ignored maosit.Then they went to jungle.So, now the king is an easy taget.I have always stated this what king did was wrong but his intention was good .Infact many people in nepal were frustarted by these netas.But king could not live upto expectation.Now he is alienated and is alone. I think we should forgive king as we have forgiven all Netas. We are very compansionate nepali with very short memory.Girija chor desh chod and ganye chor desh chod is very light and east thing to take nowadays in Nepal.So,Since the king's intention was good but did the opposite . we should forgive and forget.And not join hands with anti- nepal commies.
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bineet
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Posted on 05-22-06 8:35
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ImI how can you say the King did the opposite? Can you name anyone in King's cabinet who did corruption? There were all there just to straighten out things. The King had strictly told then that they were not to be involved in any kind of corruption. The King always asked the party people( if you heard his speech) in every speech to come foreward to talk with him for the sake of the nation. It was them who never went. I know Sher Bdr and Prakash Man Singh were involved in Melamchi scandal, because I know the sachiv named Dinesh Chandra Pyakurel who was the head of that. I think the King knew about all the intricate details of the corruption going on there. As soon as the King took over Pykurel was taken out of there and he was kept as jageda sachiv or beena bivagia sachiv and then later when the Royal Commission started the investigation and Sher Bdr and Prakash Man Singh were taken into custody - Dinesh Chandra Pyakurel committed suicide. Reports say he took 10 crores in that. But I feel because he was from a fairly good background - may be he was ashamed of the corruption he did. His father was a GM and educated guy in NBL or Rashtra Bank. You know if people from no background do the same thing , they will have no guilt but this guy I feel had guilt and beizzati of his family name may be... Whatever the King did was not bad so why do you talk of forgiving him????
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bineet
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Posted on 05-22-06 8:39
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The Royal Commission the King had may be unconstitutional but you know what? There were 5 judges who declared it unconstitutional. And, reports in KTM say that Moriyarty gave each of them 1 crore and 3 out of that 5 came on a luxury trip to USA the next day, the trip they say was organized by the US govt. There is a definite role of USA and India in bringing down the King. They have some vested interest which will be evident soon.
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ImI
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Posted on 05-22-06 9:29
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Well BINEET I HAVE NOW SYMAPTHY FOR KING BUT THE TRUTH IS TRUTH.KING DID OPPOSITE .BY THAT I MEAN. HE WAS INVOLVED IN RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES RATHER THAN IN POLITICS.HE ALIENATED ROYAL DOGS LIKE DEUBA.HE LISTENED TO CORRUPT TULSI GIRI AND KAMAL THAPA.WHILE PEOPLE ARE DYING HE HAS TO HAVE NEW CARS.HE WAS SO GREEDY THAT HE HAS TO OUT HARD EARNED TAX PAID MONEY AND SPEND ON HIS DAUGHTER WEDDINGS. LET ME TELL U THESE ARE SMALL THINGS THAT MATTERS THE MOST.PEOPLE WOULD HAVE FORGIVEN AND FORGETTEN EVEN IF HE TOOK DEMOCARACY WAY .IF WE COULD SHOW HIS MORAL CHARACTER.IF U ARE GETTING MY POINT.NEPALESE PEOPLE ARE SENTIMENTAL .THEY REALLY DO RESPECT KING FROM WITHIN BUT THESE KIND OF ACTIVITIES HAVE FORCE PEOPLE TO SPIT KING ON HIS FACE. HIS SON AND HE HAS NO CREDIBILITY.PEOPLE WERE WATCHING THEM CLOSELY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED .KING IS DUMB ASS.IF I WERE TO GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS AS KING I WOULD BE INVOLED FOR GOOD NOT LEAVE THE COUNTRY IN THE HANDS OF DOGS. BUT MY FRIEND I FEEL PITY FOR HIM.I FORGIVE HIM AND FORGET AS WE HAVE DONE TO ALL LEADERS.I BELIEVE IN GIVING SECOND CHANCE SO I SAY IF HE WANTS TO BE GOOD KING WORK IN SOCIAL SERVICE AND BE CLOSE TO NEPALI AS GOOD HUMAN BEING MAY BE AS KING ITS FINE. WE NEED TO KEEP HIM .IF NOT THEN HE IS ONE OF THE RICHEST PERSON IN THE WORLD.I WISH HIM GOOD VACATION IN SOME ISLANDS OF CARRIBEAN. ALSO THIS GOES FOR SPAM , THERE ARE EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STATE OF COUNTRY. THEY ARE JUST GAINING ADVANTAGE ."ukralo lageko bagh like bacho le pani lakhat cha"
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latoboy
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Posted on 05-22-06 10:06
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actually i am shocked by the peoples reaction against the king.... the king is being accused of wasting money...and almost bankrupting Nepal. BUT, the king has probably wasted less money than in previous years of democracy. In democracy the govt has to pay for ballots, election, security for ministers etc etc etc.. a lot of money for a lot of people.. u know what i mean. !!!!!!!!!!
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ImI
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Posted on 05-22-06 10:15
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One bad deed do not justify another.however,i support king.His intentions were good.No that i am saying SPA didn't spend money.They did and so did king.If anyone feels like hanging king they need to have guts to say they are going to hang SPA leaders and Maoist.If u cannot say that then morally u donot have rights do not bash king!!!!!!!!!!otherwise whoever says so are hypocrites.
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Ram dev
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Posted on 05-22-06 10:19
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Do u know guys ab't "RAW"? Who is RAW agent in our country? Just think ... .. One national News paper. All culprit have done by this News Paper.Today, no king , No secular all have done by this RAW agent of nepal
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Ram dev
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Posted on 05-22-06 10:26
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Sorry RAW agent of .............
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ImI
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Posted on 05-22-06 10:38
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KANTIPUR .....everybody knows that.u don't have to make it sound like riddle.
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Posted on 05-22-06 10:44
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Why do heat king? 70% chor, daka, lutera, aparadhi, stupid Nepalese.... in city. 20% Luchha, Indian, foreigner got citizenship by briberies. Look for profit only. 10% Minority true devoted real Nepalese but always live like looser and living with hard life.
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latoboy
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Posted on 05-22-06 10:46
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the king is a rich man..he has a lot of businesses in nepal and abroad.. i think his motives were real for the benefit of Nepal , NOT for money. but i guess his time ran out... no good change came out..he couldnt bring enough change for most of the people to keep supporting him.. -fixing the maoists problem will take time. -the poor economy is also a very important thing that needs to be fixed.
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Birbhadra
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Posted on 05-22-06 10:49
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Hate king? Not me I hate monarchy wholeheartedly. Ot just Nepali all Monarchy
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BinodB
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Posted on 05-22-06 11:31
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We hate especially current King He was undemocratic. unethical, immoral, illegal king and the prime misinter, he is a murderer he is a traitor. murti chor. he is a international drug dealer. he underestimated nepali janata and their leaders. he definitely needs to burn his ass in hell soon.. there are 25 million reason to hate him. Gyane, I hate you buddy !!! Pathetic loser, a sucker,,,, return all the money you have stolen from the country;s dhukuti.
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bineet
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Posted on 05-23-06 9:04
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BinodB your are a good mouthpiece of SPAM. You say that about your gurus, not about our King. Stop your false propaganda. People will know your SPAM's secret soon. They will either be eradicated from the history. Nepal needs new educated leaders. Not someone like Girija and the gang including hooligan gagan thapa.
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