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 Should Sachin be dropped?

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Posted on 01-29-07 7:15 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The opinions that Sachin Tendulkar should be dropped from the indian cricket are getting hotter these days. We know in the last two years, he has been in an out with injuries, and is nowhere near is best. But is Sachin that bad that he should be dropped? Lets look at the figures.

Following is the stat of the Indian Batsman who have played at least 5 games in the 2006/2007 season including the 3rd ODI in chennai against the West Indies.

Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50
Tendulkar 14 480 141* 36.92 1 3
Dravid 12 358 63 32.54 0 4
Dhoni 13 336 62* 30.54 0 3
Karthik 6 113 63 22.60 0 1
Pathan 8 148 64 21.14 0 1
Raina 10 131 34 16.37 0 0
Yuvraj 5 64 27* 16.00 0 0
Kaif 6 80 30 16.00 0 0
Sehwag 10 148 65 14.80 0 1

Clearly, Sachin tops in run, highest score, and century. Only Dravid has scored one more half century than Sachin, but Dravid's average is less. So after he came back from injury, Sachin has been the best from the Indian team although he is running through bad form.

Then how can people shout that Sachin should be dropped from the team?

Now lets look at the current world's greatest batsmen in the 2006/2007 season:

Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50
Tendulkar 14 480 141* 36.92 1 3
Ponting 14 460 111 38.33 1 5
Lara 19 472 87 33.71 0 3
Gilchrist 11 298 92 27.09 0 3
Hayden 8 324 117 46.28 1 1
Hussey 14 392 109* 98.00 1 1
Gibbs 9 225 93* 32.14 0 2
Kallis 11 332 119* 36.88 1 1
Strauss 8 210 56 26.25 0 2
Yousuf 5 153 71 51.00 0 1

Ricky ponting is the talk of the show thesedays has performed marginally better than Sachin in average but his total run score is less than sachin in the same no of matches. So Ponting's better average is only because of not-outs. Lara's case is even worse bothe in runs and average. Why dont people talk about Lara and Ponting being dropped when they havent performed as well as sachin?

Hussey's average is 98 in the last 14 games but his total score is 392 while Sachin's is 480 in the same no of matches. So Hussey has remained not-out more often as he comes towards the end.

See the stats guys. Sachin is going through the worst form of his life, but he has scored more runs than anyone of Ponting, Lara, Youhana, Kallis, or Hussey.

But we still love to say that Lara and Ponting are far better as batsman than Sachin. Totally wrong!! Sachin has been named Man of the Match 51 times, which is the highest by any player. The second is Jayasurya, about 40 times and Lara 30 times.

Sachin is not my favourite batsman ( I am a fan of Kallis), but I must confess Sachin is the most thrilling to watch. But we still love to say that he isnt a match winner, and is a choker. This is because we expect him to hit century in every other match, go after renouned bowlers every over. Somewhere inside, we think he is the God of Cricket , and we want him to perform like that.
 
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Posted on 01-30-07 2:02 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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hahahahaha...freak bro,
i knew it was coming :P. no one can deny that sachin is a very good batsman, one of the greats of all time indeed. skillwise he is almost complete. he has all the shots in his armory and play them all pretty well. that's why he's able to sustain for 17 yrs. but he does not have that killer instinct that a player of his caliber is supposed to possess. one of the reasons why i don't support india is that they are all big time chokers - tendulkar being one of them. players with the likes of viv richards may not have all the shots that sachin prolly has but they have higher spirit and more confidence than sachin and that makes a hell lot of difference!

i have wrote this before somewhere and am writing it again. how many centuries that sachin scored have helped india to win matches? how many of his centuries came out in big matches, tight matches, pressure matches. you can do the analyis. i don't have the stat on top of my head but am sure he has failed to make big scores in tight and crucial matches more often than not.

i would want to remember sachin for the sarjah tournament he played in '98 where he destroyed aussie attack single handedly to help india clinch the championchip title. unfortunately, there are not more of such matches that player of his caliber is supposed to have under his belt.

secondly, sachin was on the rise when india as a team was struggling during the 90s. too much of responsibilty on his shoulder helped him to some extent but at the same time pressurized him unnecessarily. it came out positive because he was able to deliver on few occasions and that brought him all the accolades and the media (south asian especially) blowed his performance out of proportion to say the least. this put too much pressure on his shoulder and he failed to deliver in important occasions. thanks to his chking and not so positive attitude.

i am not trying to grill sachin here, but people like ricky ponting (2003 WC final), steve waugh (2003 semis against SA) have played better innings and responsible ones than sachin in more than 3/4 occasions. just because they were from a more competitive team and from the part of the world where cricket is a huge craze but not necessarily a "religion" have overshadowed their performance. media and people in india and subcontinents are very sensitive. if a player plays a heroic inning, they will blow their trumpet like anything and if they fail to deliver they are grilled to death. this helps players to get more than deserved 'wah-wahs' when they deliver on few occasions. sachin went through the same when he was in his prime form in the nineties. so that helped a lot to make him stand in perhaps an un-deservedly high stature.

please feel free to disagree but with arguments :P

LooTe
 
Posted on 01-30-07 2:16 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Why do we need a comparision here? Let them be who they are! Now, comparing LooTe to Einstein does not make LooTe Einstein or does it? It is just an example here.

Happy Tuesday! :-)
 
Posted on 01-30-07 2:25 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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hahahahahaha...flips maicha!!!!
no one is comparing people. i am comparing performances. if you want to be remembered as the greatest batsman of all time, you should be able to live up to the expectation that past legends have not been able to.

all i am saying is -->
sachin --- a master blaster of his era...a great batsman indeed. BUT his best time has gone. what you are seeing and will see is sachin minus his best form. if you want that sachin and wah wah his performance like you used to do during the 90's, then i have nothing to say. team need more vibrant player than someone who is going down the hill.

that being said, am not trying to take anything away from him. he is a great batsman of his era and will be remembered like that forever.

LooTe
PS btw, comparing LooTe with einstein has high probabilty of making einstein LooTe. :P
 
Posted on 01-30-07 2:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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LooTe in the grilling process aba! Do I need to copy and paste what you just said, natra scroll gareyra hera!

Einstein LooTe - Abandon islandma gayera research gara! Good Luck!
 
Posted on 01-30-07 2:34 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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maicha,
i said, no one is in comparison game. if you compare Loote with einstein, there is a higher possibility that einstein will become Loote. Loote becoming einstein is next to impossible. i can assure you that, unless i become bald hahahahahahaha :P

LooTe
 
Posted on 01-30-07 2:35 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepal cricket board has recently struck Rs 20million deal with shikhar
filter kings. Soon we might see some good players.
http://www.cricket.com.np/new/2007/01/04/can-signs-rs-20m-sponsorship/
 
Posted on 01-30-07 2:40 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Btw, that was in jest, do not take it otherwise! I still wish to see Master Blaster blazing all over the ground, making bowlers sweat!

Good day ya'll! :-)
 
Posted on 01-30-07 3:02 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Indeed maicha darling ! :P

at few points we can agree to disagree. :P...what's the joy in concurring with each and every aspects of things around, haina?

good day to you too!! and yeah happy viewing cricks. btw, i admire your passion for the game! keep it up :-)

LooTe
 
Posted on 01-30-07 5:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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its so sad the fans r turning out from the player who makes them happy for a long time,,he was great, not was I think he is great and will b in great in future also,players can only perform high at their best time s,no one can b top for a long time as edmund hilary also said that its very easy to climb the top but very hard to b in top for a long time,yeahh,even maradona faces the same problem ,all his fans wants him to score and peform the same ,he couldn't that's why he uses cocaine and other narcotics drugs to perform well only for his supportters n fans,there is no words for sachin aka little master ,he is architecture of shots in the game of cricket and indain teams knows his value pretty well,I m damn sure indian selectors...fck to selectors even the president can't take him off frm the indian team,he has done a zob others can only dream bout
 
Posted on 01-31-07 1:24 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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a 100 off 76 balls with a strike rate of 131.57

NO HE SHOULDNT BE DROPPED, AND HE HAS DEFINITELY NOT LOST HIS APPETITE FOR RUNS .....
 
Posted on 01-31-07 1:25 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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high time this forum is closed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
now that he got a century
 
Posted on 01-31-07 9:03 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Where is Lootekukur now?
 
Posted on 01-31-07 9:15 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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sachin .......... he is too fucheee and too od for cricket now........

well he ain't like ganguly who can fight with such tough situation.......... LOL!!!!!!!

sachin days are gone......... and stop talking about dhotis game any more........

freaking dhotis........

-Rockend
 
Posted on 01-31-07 9:53 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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its amazing when people keep constantly harping about tendulkar's so called 'faliure to deliver when needed'. thats blaming one man for the ineptitude of a team. i remember this one match. pak vs india, india chasing 210-odd to win. top order crumbles, except tendulkar. battling with cramps, he makes a magnificent century, sheperding the tail. then, with 12 runs remaining to win, and 4 wickets left, he is out to a stunner from akram. india go on to lose by 7 runs. and apparently it was all tendulkar's fault

and consider this
the last 6 times that tendulkar has scored a ODI century, india have won twice. does that mean that tendulkar did not perform, or that the rest of the team failed him?

come to think of it, i just realised that the 'fails in big matches' tag is actually a compliment. if any other player did what he did, it would be considered good batsmanship

since it's tendulkar, its not good enough. because tendulkar is not allowed to have the normal human frailities.

after all, you see, tendulkar is god
 
Posted on 01-31-07 9:57 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Woah, who won the man of the match! Need more critism if he delivers excellence at the right time! Hands up for making my day wonderful! :-)

freak_alien, hope you enjoyed the game!

Happy Wednesday!
 
Posted on 01-31-07 10:29 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sachin hit 118 runs..should he be dropped?? Good question !!
 
Posted on 01-31-07 12:25 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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rockend,
>> sachin days are gone......... and stop talking about dhotis game any more........
I disagree with the first one cause he just hit a century, and on the second part if you got anything better then creat a thread and we will contribute.

flip_flop,
>> freak_alien, hope you enjoyed the game!
I just watched that over when he scored 3 consecutive 4s, ani the link stopped working.


अनगिन्ति काँडा,
Totally with you there !
 
Posted on 01-31-07 6:50 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Where is LooTeKukur?? ..Ha ha
Sachin rocks....
The reason why people say that sachin doesnt perform in competitive games is because, whenever he performs, the match goes out of competition in favour of India.
 
Posted on 01-31-07 9:27 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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fuk who cares?
 
Posted on 01-31-07 11:09 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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neps ...
dont you see fuk we care...
thats why theres 3 pages of discussion damn it ...

haamlai ni mukh chhadna aauchha bau.... tara hami chhad dainam
 



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