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Posted on 04-23-08 5:43
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MJF chief sets 'condition' for joining govt Coordinator of Madhesi Janadhikar Forum (MJF), Upendra Yadav, has said that his party will join the next government only if the "one Madhesh one province" demand is accepted by the would-be ruling allies. Speaking at a programme in Sunsari, Yadav said that there must be common understanding among the parties in the next government on key agendas including "one Madhesh one Pradesh" demand. He said that the party will again take to streets if the issues of Madhesis, Janajatis and Dalits are not addressed. Yadav's statement comes at a time when the Maoist leadership is trying to convince the major parties including the MJF, which has established itself as fourth largest party after the constituent assembly polls, to join the new Maoist-led government. "One Madhes one province" was one of main election slogan of the MJF as well as other Terai-based parties like Terai-Madhesh Loktantrik Party and Sadbhawana Party. The concept of the slogan is to establish a single province comprising the entire flat land from eastern Jhapa district to far-western Kanchanpur district. Earlier, the Maoists, Nepali Congress and UML had squarely rejected this
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Aalu Jasto
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Posted on 04-24-08 2:29
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pendre chor .. desh chod .. Upendre chor lai Phasi de ....
Bihari Murdabad .. Nepali Jindabad
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Posted on 04-24-08 2:58
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If I am I understanding correctly then what they are asking is that they still want to be part of Nepal but just want to have separate government. They don’t want the central government determining what happens in Tarai.
I think it’s a good idea every district in Nepal should have its own government, laws, law enforcements, courts etc. and those ppl should live in the actual district b/c then only they can know wht is needed. If they live in Katmandu how can they know wht is needed in dang.
If every district had its own government it would be more effective and efficient rather than a central government trying to control everything. All the districts will still be part of Nepal and the central government will just look over the major issues. Just like in America.
That’s not really dividing up the country. Its just a better way to make things work.
and i agree with peace for all (just the 1st part)
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Posted on 04-24-08 5:48
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Dont compare america and Nepal. Practically that would be disaster for whole country. And how come jhapa , chitwan having more pahade population would be in that Madhes. I truly believe madhesis should not discriminated but that UPendra Yadav is oppurtunist bastard who is just exploiting Madhesis to acheive power.
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Aalu Jasto
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Posted on 04-24-08 8:57
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Posted on 04-25-08 12:20
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f@k all those bihari man..sometime i feel like going back to nepal and kill anyone who is corrupted and try to divide the country...play politics with the people...and doing all those kind of shit...remembering all those thing make me do sth...but i can do nothing....lets do sth from here so that we can educated all these people...or wait till maoist take some action....its all bullshit....those dhotis even dont know the slogan of nepal...someone go and ask them to tell nepali alphabet from ka to ghya...they even dont know it....i dont know who give them the ticket as a politicain....
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Posted on 04-25-08 12:29
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Upendra yadav gayera prachanda ,girija ani makune ko geda chusa ani uni haru le timi lai dinchan "one madhesh one province"ko gift.
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Posted on 04-25-08 2:25
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BIHARI CHOR DESH CHOD now that sounds right
I think Indian's have forgotten what happend 30 yrs ago in Jhapa... we still got our Khukuri sharpened... saley Dhoti ko Ragat ko lagi mero khukri bhokai rako cha.....
Bhaiya take your cycle and cross the border.... Padhey ko ris dekeyko chaina upendra yadav ley.....
Once you spill the beans there is no point in crying.
Peace For All why do you let indian's detect your people.... I thought you all were nepalis like me .. I thought there was no difference.. some are from the hills and some from the plains.. that's it right...
It is like freaking Al Sharpton speaking for all blacks in America.. ask any black guy here he will say that mofo doesn't speak for us.. but nobody speaks against him either
One person I want to meet in person is in NY.. he is a Bihari who got nepali passport and went to Bhudnilkanta.. his father is bihari.. he is Lalu's cousin.... He is going to be the first person to die if there is a war for Terai....
We won't give it to no one... INDIA HAS TAKEN ENOUGH OF OUR LAND..
UPENDRA YADAV SALEY DHOTI TERO DIN KAM HUDAICHA????? wait and watch
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Posted on 04-25-08 6:30
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I always had faith in the new generation of Nepalis, my generation and the coming generations who I sincerely hoped could do away with the bitter past, could seek unification, and never ever resort to, forget resort, never ever even think of resorting to violence. I thought we are becoming wiser and probably, at least us, who live abroad are intelligent enough not to talk about violence AND HATRED..but I WAS WRONG.
Well I give up now.
As long as we keep mudslinging and insulting each other, as long as we just talk about khukuri and violence and bihari, nothing will change, the status quo will haunt us for generations lest we be wise.
It gives me great pain to see THE ANGER AND HATRED AMONG MY FELLOW NEPALI BROTHERS WHO DON'T..ABSOLUTELY DON'T KNOW THE GROUND REALITY. THE HATRED IN OUR MINDS IS JUST TOO MUCH..SUFFOCATING!!!!
well YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT AND I WAS WRONG. I GIVE UP.
I wont be in sajha.com for ever but it was an enlightening experience that showed me the tunnel of darkness in our minds is extremely long, there is no end in sight.
Didn't mean to offend anyone.
May good sense prevail.
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Posted on 04-25-08 6:40
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Hi Peace for all, I already mentioned to everyone, it is fight for darkness, equality for every nepali. The question here is, why you are feeling quilty. There are more than 100 seats from Tarai which is gathered from Maoist, UML and Nepali Congress of main political parties. I don't mean we don't need regional politics but my question here is why they killed the pahadi's in Tarai. What would happen if Newars starts killing to other in Kathmandu. You know Pracanda won in Kirtipur, Pracanda was never Newar and Prakash Man Sigh Won in No. 1 constitutional area, which is basically parbate. Don't feel it is for Taraians, definately tarians not only cast vote for Tarians in this constitutional assembly. So you are one of the brave nepali of Tarai who will fight for person like Upendra, there are lot of Matrika, Patel and Udhavs, who are always nepali with Nepali heart. So you have to fight for the New Bihari's who want a single province but definately you can fight for better Tarai.
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Posted on 04-25-08 6:42
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peace for all
dude.. is there a difference between Bihari and Madhisey???
that is my question.. as long as you are a Madhisey you are a nepali... if you are Bihari than you are not a nepali. simple as that...
We support you 100 percent.. u r our brother... But my thing is with Upendra yadav. Not you bro. COme to sajha we need Diversity and need ideas.. I don't want Nepal to be divided, and can't stand the janadhikar Forum's requests and challanges..
Brother if they want war we will give them war.... many will die but there will be war.... GHANTA pani ek madesh hudaina.....
MUjji Nepal ko Tarai ma ayeara Malaria ko jamanama Hami Pahdi ley banako ho sab tyo Khet haru.... MAdhisey vaney ko tharu, dhimal ETC huntey tarai ma... janakpur tira mithili vasa ra bhojpuri vasa boleny manchey basthey...
and now we got rid of all the maliaria and crap and your Upendra yadav wants my land...
DOgg He better have a big gun.... otherwise I will be the first one to ambush him and kill hiim. and I am not lying... we Pahadeys have HOT BLOOD too..... not Bihari is going to to dectate shit to me and in nepal.
If he was a nepali he would be thinking like you.... (unless you are that dude I am talking about from NY the one who went to bhudanilkanta, he is my batch... and I hate him.. I will kick his ass too)
But Peace for all.. don't leave come and talk to us.
I am getting off from work.. when I get home I want to see your freaking reply.... I am not against MADESH I am from MADESH too.. but I am against one MADESH.. there is difference... unless you want me to sing a different song
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Posted on 04-25-08 6:47
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I am a jhapali and I don't want one madesh.. who asked that YADAV if my district was gonna be in 1 madesh... is that ahole joking....
he forgot 30 dekhi 33 sal ko TAUKO KATEKO KURA.... we can still ship Biharis' back to India and we don't need india to help us in nothing..
we will close our borders and get help from CHina like we did 18 yrs ago during the prime minster ship of Marichman Shrestha.....
No freaking Bihari Politics in Nepal...
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Aalu Jasto
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Posted on 04-25-08 7:02
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Posted on 04-25-08 7:28
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आलु जस्तो ब्रो भात र आलु टन्नै खाको हो नाइटो ठाडो हुने गरी ?
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Posted on 04-25-08 7:50
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Hi brother CHOR (dont wanna call by this name but this is the only name I know)
First of all I am totally against any idea of a separate state. Doesn't matter who brings this issue. Mr Yadav, you got it totally wrong.
Lets be bluntly honest. All of us living abroad are escapists, we don't do anything, people are dying in Nepal, getting beaten , and what not but we are here, pretty safe.SO THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE LEAST WE CAN DO?
WELL WHAT I EXPECT IS US TO HAVE A POSITIVE TONE. US TO BE MORE CIVIL AND US TO BRING ALL KIND OF NEPALESE ON A COMMON PLATFORM AND RISE ABOVE THE PETTY MADHISE/PAHADE/ETC ISSUES AND SHARE OUR IDEAS AND DO SOMETHINK THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. ITS A WELL KNOWN FACT THAT DIVIDED WE FAIL.
Now that Mr Yadav has won, he can say that he has public mandate. WRONG. ABSOLUTELY WRONG. As wrong as maoists use YCL and say they have a public mandate.
But what is the solution? Think about it. Killing and reataliation killing is not a solution. We already had enough of killings in Nepal, no more blood bath please.If anyone thinks thats a solution I am helpless.LETS FIND A SOLUTION.
LETS HAVE A DEBATE.
I hope most of us will agree with me here.
PS I am not the NY guy. I am a graduate student from IOE but doesn't matter who I am. As long as I can spread the message of love and peace to most of us my job is done.I never agreed with him but I won't fight with anyone I don't disagree with.
SORRY GUYS, this has to be my last post for some reasons, BUT I JUST WANTED ALL OF US TO BE AWAKE AND THINK SERIOUSLY..WHAT WE'VE BEEN LACKING.Forgiveness is not being coward, non-violence is not being coward, these are essential traits that can bring about the change we seek in our motherland.
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Posted on 04-25-08 8:03
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Hi Peace for all, I might be agree with you this point, I don't mean to fight with guns or anything, this thread is also fight to Mr. Upendra Udhav, one thing, you are saying we should be peaceful, yes definately we should be peaceful but our peace may lead that we might be supporing Mr. Upendra. Again another question, what we are doing for the nation. Yes, we are ran away from the country, either as a Madhise or Pahade, no one is satisfy from the system. Another thing, I am not Maoist but one thing we have to realise that Maoist is the first party which had all Taraians, tharu, janajati in their fight. I don't know, what is that fight for, but my stress is where was Upendra Udhav? He was in Maoist but he ran away and started his own theory of Single Madhes, which created a major threat for Pahadi residing in Tarai. When there was a Maoist movement like 12 years, it was totally a political movement, but now the politics was shifted to castes and Upendra Udhav is criminal for that politics. So my thought is the people who are true nepali always fight with the attitude of Upendra (Fight means not always weapon). So I am also a pulchowk product, so if you feel you are Nepali, never support the movement of Upendra, definately he is trying to use Bihari Politics. So change timely all Tarians, or one day there will be fight in one way to other.
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Posted on 04-26-08 12:43
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sala madhesi haru pahadi haru ko tato ragat aajai dekheka chaina maile yedi kohi madheshi lai mranu paryo bhane sabbhanda pahila upendra yadav lai marchu .sala dhito mero geda chus.
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Posted on 04-26-08 8:21
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why would you need any enemies when we have friends like ourselves?
why would we need others to attack us when we are hell bent on to annihilate ourselves?
We always find excuse to fight among ourselves. We are so blind not to see there are more similarities tham differences.
Palpaliraper, when you wanna kill someone just let me know where I should come so that you can kill me..I will come unarmed and help you use your khukuri to kill me..if that satisfies you. I don't support Upendra Yadav but your hatred against your fellow countrymen needs some tauko katne movement then start with me , I will oblige.
Great going guys. Good luck..carry on the provocation...carry on the path to destruction..carry on the insult, injury and blood shedding..lets kill ourselves, our fellow countrymen and lets keep doing that until no one is left alive...good luck.
The worst mistake of my life was to log on to this site and converse with supposedly peaceful people from the land of Buddha who taught compassion. F*** man I am ashamed. I am ashamed.
Promise to be never ever EVER EVER be back to this site.
God bless you all.
Have great life.
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Posted on 04-26-08 3:25
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LOL you guys are soo funny..I laughed soo hard.....darjeelingdai........आलु जस्तो ब्रो भात र आलु टन्नै खाको हो नाइटो ठाडो हुने गरी ?........never heard that one before...LOL.......
Ok ......ok...OK...lol ......NEW NEPAL WELCOMES YOU ALL.
the glue of unity between Nepalese people has been taken apart by sheer force...............The sense of security is no longer present so people of the same ethnic group feel more secure with in their own kind.....and in a country like Nepal with the vast diversity with ethnicity, culture, tradition and language....NEPAL....HAMI EK HAU bhanne tradition is dead with the first killing of one brother to another, to rape, rob, extort and discriminate. People have lost the security of living in other neighborhood where they are the minority......SO they want to live where they all speak the same, eat and look the same. THE GLUE HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THE SENSE OF ALL NEPALESE ARE EQUAL IS DEAD.sad but true.............SOME PEOPLE HAS RISEN TO THE TOP CLIMBING ON THOUSANDS OF DEAD NEPALI BODIES......while their families and friends watch in tears...AND OTHERS CELEBRATE.................SO be prepared ....... if all this dissagreement goes on...CIVIL war is around the corner.......NEPAL HAS LOST HER ORIGIN......so lets all rediscover what nepal was like in the olden days before the unification.
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Posted on 04-26-08 8:10
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peace brother, first i would strongly recommend you to ignore the hardliners' opinions and increas the threshold of tolerance. you wont find ppl of same level (i am sure you know what i meant) for the healthy discussion. What more do you expect from the citizens who are already being half plagued by divisive politics. Even from this election we have seen that there is a huge mass of ppl who supports YCL as well as similar madhesies groups which are affiliated by major political parties of terai. No body is trying to bridge the gap between terai and madhesh, rather everybody is following the mantra once used by English (divide and rule). I still remember, after democracy was thrown to public as if we throw stale roti to dogs, sad-bhawana party started to widen the gap between pahade and madheshies with their slogan (Terai hamara hai, pahadiyo! pahad me jao.. something like that). I was young then, still trying to learn politics.. but old enough to know that they were abusing human sentiments for the personal and short term benefits. Now, terai is almost in the state of civil war type situation. Last time i visited there was almost two years back, and i was able to see the hatred and anger in their eyes. What surprised me more was... i saw same hatred and angers in few of my classmates (i was born and raised in terai) with whom i grew. I realized that few of my classmates did not mature enough to adhere the humane characters as they grew. Whenever we talk about problems in nepal, even a blind man can easily pin point it. And, when it comes to solutions no body will give damn about it. I don't think anybody is sincerely working on to resolves those problems. Lets not pick the problems of other parts and focus mostly in terai. In case of Terai's problem, its very obvious, no body had time to contemplate about terai's issues when those terai's revolution was in preliminary phase. Now it has grown up so immensely.. its root has invested the heart of millions now. The hatred and anger is also there. Somebody who loves nepal and want a single nepal would never agree with one madesh one province demand. This demand is not a legitimate demand and we all know it that it would divide every ethnic group and that will push us back another 100 years. We should have eradicated the infection long before when sad-vawana party planted that slogan of having a "separate madesh rajya". Major political parties were blinded then.. with their own successes and most of the leader were busy in harvesting their own fruits. They never loved nepal then.. and its really hard to put the same level of trust in them. There had been several madhesies ministers in the past.. even they turned their ears deaf to problems of terai. I am not surprised the way maoists got success in CA election. I was expecting the same level of success for terian extremist parties. and yes, they had success. Which also explains a trend that we nepali have.. we are so innocent herd of cattles driven by few cleaver wolves.. Solution = as far as i can see, there wont be magical solution to this like most of problems in nepal. And, parties who got benefits by boiling one madesh one province issues.. even they dont want it be resolved that easily otherwise their works would look petty. They would definately want to make it as big as possible. Because politics is their profession and everybody wants job security. They are not there to seek a common ground of understanding... Anyway, i would not want to see nepal being sri lanka and madeshies being tamil fighting for a separate nation. Somebody definitely has to step up to stop the trend of passing on of hatred and anger to our young generation. Religions and ethnicities are very sensitive issues. When these are mixed in politics then a simple reaction will turn into the exaggerated chain reactions. The govt. should work extensively to make the terians feel that they were not left behind... they are as equal nepali as from any other corner of nepal. Accept their valid demand.. and take strong action against any political parties that uses racial or religious matter to gain political advantage or attempt to mislead the mass based on those sensitive issues. Moist problem also gave a sense to political leaders that you are allowed to kill and torture others as long as you have a mass following you. Law and order should be enforced strongly and those involve in any crimes should be punished irrespective of their political status. If we can make king an ordinary man, then why not those corrupted and criminal leaders?
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Posted on 04-27-08 1:57
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In one line, we should not accept Yadhav's proposal, this will divide the nation and rest of the mountainous dweller have to live in under their mercy.
Let's see what Maoest is going to do? It will give us hints how they going to lead the nation.
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