- http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070527/india_nm/india300192

Look at KKK they are educated.
Look at the Nazis ... they were educated.
and look at all the guys here in sajha kurakani calling names to each other(mind you these are college graduates with careers), accusing each other of corruption, racism etc etc. I would have to disagree with you on that one.

oye!!!!!loote kkk ko...kura garchas talai luto lagera pugena.....pak,,,aba loote gaayo.......din ganna thal....... i'm gonna tell to my black bro gangsta 50 cent......loote le bhane ko kkk haru educated bhayerapani testo thiyo re.........sab lai looto laage ko hunu parchha''''bujis hakuchha.............looto derai chilaye jasto chhaaa...tesaile..... nachahine topic ma deraiiiiiii bhukyo yo..bhateee....haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

oyeee!!!loote kukur bathroom mai dalis ki kya ho....be careful...commode bhitra mukh parlaaaaaaaaaa.....!!!!!!!!!muhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

hey guys. this is how a war starts. cool down take it easy.

Just in case BathroomCoffee thinks otherwise, this is not in specific response to his queries

(he will have to learn manner of engaging in a decent discussion first to ever get any significance/value of him to me. I doubt he will ever do. It's been years his vulgarity remains unchanged. And so does my way of dealing with this class of posters- just ignore and let them know how immaterial they are !)

That said, on education as the way to teach the society to give dignity to Dalits, it certainly will help to some extent and so should be continued as a continuous effort.

However, there are certain things education alone is not going to get rid of, let's say, within next 100 years. And that is-- the deep stigma and dishonor attached to the lowermost caste.

The only way to destroy the stigma is to destroy the strict barrier and "heritage" of caste. And that's what my proposal is all about.

I will end this installment with the following note from a letter published in Pathak Manch of Kantipur last summer.

A reader, some Deepak Ghimire from Hetauda Makawanpur, writes exactly what I was proposing.

Nepe
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July 6, 2007
- http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnepalinews.php?nid=78849

"तल्लो जातका भनिने मानिसले मलाई यो थर मनपरेन, उच्च जातिको यो थर राखिदिनुस् भनी नागरिकता बनाउन आएमा वा नागरिकतामा थर सच्याउन निवेदन हालेमा जिल्ला प्रशासन कार्यालयमा उसले भनेबमोजिम उच्च जातिको थर राखी नागरिकतामा परिवर्तन गरिदिने व्यवस्था हुनसके बिस्तारै दलित, छुवाछूत, ठूलो-सानो भन्ने भावना अन्त्य भई जातीय समस्या नै अन्त्य हुनेछ ।"

दीपक घिमिरे
हेटौंडा, मकवानपुर
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correct date of the letter is July 6, 2006.

ब्रम्हण् बाट जात झर्ने भएकोले जस्लाई जे जे मन पर्छ् तेही राखे भाईहाल्यो नि। पहाडी, हिमालि हरु थर् को रुपमा प्रयोग हुन लगेको छ।
मेरो विचारमा सप्त् ॠषि का नाम् भिर्दा राम्रो होला।

Ha ha ha Nepe,
IGNORANCE IS BLISS AIN'T IT ? ha ha ha AND THE TRUTH HURTS DUN IT ? YOU AND YOUR FUGGING BAKWAAAS IS NOTHING BUT ASS TALK. "THIS CLASS OF POSTER ?" HE HE HE Yo dude I AM IN A FUGGING CLASS NOW ? SHOWS YOUR TRUE MENTALITY MR WANNA BE LEADER. DON"T COME IN HERE PORTRAYING YOURSELF ALL HIGH AND MIGHTY ELEVATING YOURSELF TO A PEDESTAL. CAUSE I KNOW YOUR KIND AND WILL NOT HESITATE DEFLATING YOUR BAKWAAAS.
I see no difference between likes of you and PARAMINDERRRR. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT AN OPPERTUNIST JUST LIKE HIM. And look at yourself flip flopping now. ha ha ha WELL ABOVE YOU WERE PROPOSING TURNING THEM INTO BUDDHISTS AND CHANGING NAME SHOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM RIGHT ? No no no I changed my mind EDUCATION IS THE WAY TO GO.... no no no no MAYBE NOT(untill its under scrutiny).

"The only way to destroy the stigma is to destroy the strict barrier and "heritage" of caste. And that's what my proposal is all about."
THAT IS YOUR PROPOSAL ? AND WHO THE FUG ARE YOU ? WHO MADE YOU THE LEADER ?OR WHO MADE YOU THE FUGGING EXPERT ? ha ha ha YOU YOURSELF. MR MAPAI !!! he he

And you are very quick to quote SHIT TOO AIN"T YOU ? ha ha ha LIKE A PREACHER QUOTES THE BIBLE. I BET YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR EVERYTHING GONE WRONG IN NEPAL DON"T YOU ? WHILE PEOPLE SUFFER AND DIE IN NEPAL YOU LAME ASS IS GOING TO BE SITTING HERE PRODUCING ONE PROPOSAL AFTER ANOTHER MAKING SURE YOU GET YOUR REPUBLICAN SHARE WHEN ITS TIME TO CUT THE CAKE AIN"T IT ? he he IN THE MEAN TIME MR DUKUWA IS GOING TO SIT HERE IN THE COMFORTS OF USA AND KEEP PRODUCING PROPOSALS.

mr coffee i couldnt find anything bad here ....but u are barking alot ..why?!

jpt gali garera hatti thulo bhako ho ra? samman chahane le samman samman din saknu

parcha ..plz stop yektarfi WAR

Manvi,
Its not about finding anything wrong or wright. Its about people like NEPE who is trying to portray himself as some kind of expert in Nepali Society. I get ticked off at mothafuggers like this who sit here in the comforts of western civilization and come lecture us on what is good for us and what is not. MY POINT IS LET US(Nepali people) BE THE JUDGE OF THAT. I DON"T NEED SOMEONE LIKE HIM TELLING ME WHATS BEST FOR ME. Him and his republican cronies are responsible for aiding all the looting and raping in Nepal. THESE REPUBLIC FUGGERS WANTED THAT CHANGE BUT CHICKENED OUT WHEN THE MAOS SHOWED UP. THEY DID NOT EVEN HAVE THE BALLS TO CONFRONT THEM WHICH LED TO ALL THE KAOS AND DESTRUCTION(while these fuggers were comfortably watching prime time TV in US). AJJJHA AYEERA YAHAAA LECTURE DINA AUCHA YO GADHA.

Manvi,

See you just wasted your precious time and words.

And as for the WAR, there can never be a war, really. BathroomCoffee and I live in totally different worlds (different dimensions) for that purpose.

I live, by my own choice, in a world where I take responsibility to what I say (out of my principles as well as by my known real identity). Bathroom lives, by his own choice, in a world where he is not brave enough to take responsibility to what he says.

So, he can, let's say, have a communication with me, that too, as long as I respond. However, he can never ever "attack" me. Simply because, for that, he will have to come to my world which a person like him will never ever dare.

What happens, instead, in this era of easier access to the correct information for those who desire and hence no misinformation can stand to hurt one really (that's how the celebrated quote "no publicity is a bad publicity" gains credibility), people like BathroomCoffee will be, as I thanked him for that right at the beginning, will be bringing periodic fifteen minute fames to persons like me. Nothing more.

In fact, I am rejoicing this sudden attention and "free advertisement" to my political credentials by Bathroom.

What I am "ignoring" is his vulgarity, not this little heart warming attention and celebration I am getting.

I almost was thinking, as I am unable to frequent much, that I am a forgotten "celebrity" of Sajha. It feels good to have the moments back.

Nepe
Thankful and wickedly rejoicing my moments

Nepe,"See you just wasted your precious time and words."
Is that what you think MR WANNA BE LEADER ? TALKING TO FELLOW NEPALI IS WASTING OF HIS MOST PRECIOUS TIME AND WORDS. MOTHAFUGGER THINKS HE"S AN ELITIST. he he Ohh I am SOOO heartbroken ha ha ha.

"And as for the WAR, there can never be a war, really. BathroomCoffee and I live in totally different worlds (different dimensions) for that purpose."
YOU BET YO BROWN ASS THAT RIGHT. I DON"T USE PEOPLE AND EXPLOIT OTHERS FOR SELF BENEFIT. Where as you and your REPUBLICAN CRONIES USED INNOCENT NEPALI JANATA IN THE NAME OF REPUBLICAN MOVEMENT. AND LEFT THEM OUT IN THE DRY WHEN MAO"S SHOWED UP.

"I live, by my own choice, in a world where I take responsibility to what I say (out of my principles as well as by my known real identity). Bathroom lives, by his own choice, in a world where he is not brave enough to take responsibility to what he says. "
You take responsibilty to what you say ? ha ha ha must be kidding. THEN WHERE THE FUG WERE YOU WHEN INNOCENT PEOPLE WERE MURDERED IN BROAD DAYLIGHT IN THE STREETS OF NEPAL ? WHERE WAS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY WHEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN WERE BEING RAPED ? BUSINESSMEN WERE BEING EXTORTED. WHERE THE FUG WAS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY THEN ? MORON !!! AND HAS THE AUDACITY TO COME HERE TALK ABOUT MY RESPONSIBILITY. SON OF A BITCH !!


So, he can, let's say, have a communication with me, that too, as long as I respond. However, he can never ever "attack" me. Simply because, for that, he will have to come to my world which a person like him will never ever dare.
Ha ha ha HE WE GO MR MAPAI that is if I choose to respond ? he he OOhh YOU ARE SO VVVIP I cannot talk to you ? mothafugger.. its people like this asshole with elitist ideology that have fugged of NEPAL and here is another one on the way. WHAT I WILL DARE TO DO OR NOT DO YOU LAME ASS WILL NEVER KNOW. ALL YOU CAN DO IS MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ... SO DON"T EVEN GO THERE PAL. ha ha ha AGAIN HERE HE PUTS HIMSELF ON THAT PEDESTAL AGAIN. MR SELF INFLATORR.


What happens, instead, in this era of easier access to the correct information for those who desire and hence no misinformation can stand to hurt one really (that's how the celebrated quote "no publicity is a bad publicity" gains credibility), people like BathroomCoffee will be, as I thanked him for that right at the beginning, will be bringing periodic fifteen minute fames to persons like me. Nothing more.
Oh so you would rather have that eliteist idea of information only be available to a few chosen one LIKE YOU maybe ? he he he WE ALL HAVE MISINFORMATION AND YOURS IS THE ONLY CORRECT ONE RIGHT ? he he BOTTOM LINE AS YOU CLAIM YOU ARE LOOKING FOR FAME THEN HUH !! NOT INTERESTED IN THE WELFARE AND WELL BEING OF POOR NEPALI PEOPLE HUH !! Wah wah wah TAAALIIIII !!!! CLAP CLAP CLAP

In fact, I am rejoicing this sudden attention and "free advertisement" to my political credentials by Bathroom.
SO YOU ARE MR DUKUWA THEN. SO YOU CAN RIGHTFULLY GO BACK TO NEPAL AND SAY MAILEY PANI UN MA PROTEST GAREKO THIYEE MEROO KURSIII KHOI TAA ? HUH !!

What I am "ignoring" is his vulgarity, not this little heart warming attention and celebration I am getting.
CELEBRATE ALL U WANT CAUSE IT MIGHT JUST GO AWAY WHEN PEOPLE GET TO KNOW THE REAL U.

I almost was thinking, as I am unable to frequent much, that I am a forgotten "celebrity" of Sajha. It feels good to have the moments back.
I KNOW YOU ARE USING THIS SITE TO ESTABLISH YOURSELF AS SOME KIND OF LEADER. JUST REMINDING YOU THAT WE ARE NOT STOOOOOPID.

It always irks me to see someone boasting about 'real identity' in sajha where more than 99.9 percent of the people are anonymous.

NEPE & BATHROOM ..... two fuuckin Sit.com Maniacs....U both should settle down ur score in the Boxing Ring......have Balls?????

ZIBALDON,
Ummmm..... HIs Royal Highness Nepe would rather not deal with Petty People like me. He would only responds to people that worship him like a GOD and obey him like a Sheep. Besides I do not like violence ... be it for sports, entertainment, or real. So I would pass on them gloves. thanks though.....:-)

Bhusan-jyu,

I am not boasting about my real identity to the entire community of decent anonymous Sajhaites. There simply is no need of that.

My intention is only to let the obnoxious anonymous posters to know that anonymity is to be understood respected/accepted only when it comes with decency.

Once the anonymous poster starts to use his/her anonymity as a cover, to describe it in exact words, to be in an illusion, like Bathroom is, of being able to abuse others, that understanding (of respect/accept to anonymity) is broken and the distinction of reality vs virtuality takes over.

In simple words, as long as an anonymous poster is decent, anonymity is not a problem and the distinction between anonymity and reality becomes obscure. Once the posters starts to be indecent and abusive, anonymity becomes a problem and the distinction between the virtuality and the reality becomes distinct.

I was simply pointing to that.

So I was not really boasting about my real identity to the decent anonymous community. I was only reminding those indecent anonymous posters, who are in illusion of having a power to abuse others, that they don't have that power, that they have only the illusion of that power and that they are really powerless for the purpose of being able to REALLY abuse others.

Anonymity was not invented for abusing others. It was invented for unabusive but otherwise uncomfortable things like confessions about oneself.


*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***

Talking about use, abuse, vested interests and confessions, I felt like sharing this ghazal again from an old edition of Chautari-VI.

I particularly have highlighted one sher with the message that abuses that come to your direction do not necessarily harm you.

Nepe

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Retrieved from Chautari-VI, page 11
- http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openthreadall.cfm?StartRow=201&PageNum=11&forum=271&threadid=26626


थोरै केही पिएको हुँ
धेरै पिई दिएको हुँ

जबर्जस्ती हुन्थ्यो नत्र
यो सोची हौसिएको हुँ

बोकी बोकी हिडें जेलाई
त्यसैले थिचिएको हुँ

शत्रुहरुले छ्यापेका
हिलोले सप्रिएको हुँ

भगुवा अगुवा देखी
पछ्‌छिन हच्किएको हुँ

खियाले खिईनु सट्टा
चम्किन घोटिएको हुँ

बाङ्गा साथी सोझा देख्छु
कि भनी बाङ्गिएको हुँ

केलाउन नसकिन
भींडमा मिसिएको हुँ

उम्किएर ठूलो भयो
सानै गाँस लिएको हुँ

बींड मात्तै कति तात्‌नु
भनेर चिसिएको हुँ

यात्रा रोकेको कहाँ हो
साथी पो पर्खिएको हुँ


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Npe, "I am not boasting about my real identity to the entire community of decent anonymous Sajhaites. There simply is no need of that."
THE ONLY REASON YOU LET OUT YOUR REALY IDENTITY IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GAIN SOMETHING FROM US. AND BEING ANONYMOUS IS NOT GOING TO HELP YOUR BUDDING POLITICIAN CAREER IS IT ? WHERE AS ME I HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN FROM THIS SITE. AND VERY HAPPY BEING ANONYMOUS. HE HE

"My intention is only to let the obnoxious anonymous posters to know that anonymity is to be understood respected/accepted only when it comes with decency. "
HA HA HA WHAT YOU ARE THE MODERATOR NOW ? AND WHO THE FUG ELECTED YOU TO THAT POSITION ? MR MAPAI NEPE. ha ha ha

"Once the anonymous poster starts to use his/her anonymity as a cover, to describe it in exact words, to be in an illusion, like Bathroom is, of being able to abuse others, that understanding (of respect/accept to anonymity) is broken and the distinction of reality vs virtuality takes over. "
I am using as a cover now ? WHAT THE FUG AM I COVERING ? I have nothing to lose. I am not abusing anyone. Its just the way I talk like it or not your choice. NOT HERE TO IMPRESS ANYONE OR GAIN ANYTHING FROM THIS SITE. THAT brings out another point. ITS OK FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO USE THE POOR NEPALI PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND MARCH ON YOUR REPUBLIC MOVEMENT JULUS(AND have them jailed, murdered, or raped). BUT ITS NOT OK FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME TO CONVERSE THE WAY I CHOOSE ? he he he IF you had any respect amongst yourselves YOU WOULD HAVE PROTECTED THOSE PEOPLE WHO MARCHED ON YOUR REPUBLIC MOVEMENT"S BEHALF. BUT WHAT DID YOU MOTHAFUGGERS DO ? LEFT TEM OUT IN THE COLD AND LET THE MAO"S create their MAOIST ANARCHY.

In simple words, as long as an anonymous poster is decent, anonymity is not a problem and the distinction between anonymity and reality becomes obscure. Once the posters starts to be indecent and abusive, anonymity becomes a problem and the distinction between the virtuality and the reality becomes distinct.
IN other words as long as the anonymous poster agrees with you and sings your praises its ok. JUST LIKE YOUR FUGGING LIKEMINDED REPUBLIC MOVEMENT ? WHAT IS ANONYMITY TO US IS REALITY TO YOU CAUSE YOU ARE ...as I mentioned above TRYING TO GAIN OUR SUPPORT FOR YOUR FUTURE POLITICAL CAREEER. he he

So I was not really boasting about my real identity to the decent anonymous community. I was only reminding those indecent anonymous posters, who are in illusion of having a power to abuse others, that they don't have that power, that they have only the illusion of that power and that they are really powerless for the purpose of being able to REALLY abuse others.
HA HA HA HA You had to backtrack on that one didn't you ? ha ha ha YOUDON"T WANT TO FUG UP YOUR SUPPORT FROM THE DECENT SAJHA COMMUNITY DO YOU ? That why you're kissing ASS right now. You were reminding those indecent posters with illusion of having power to abuse others ? ha ha ha WTF THAT THEY DON"T HAVE THAT POWER ? THAT THEY ARE ONLY IN THE ILLUSION OF HAVING THAT POWER ? haha ha AHEM REALLY ? WHY do you keep coming back if I am powerless against the MIGHTY NEPE. MR POLITICIAN NEEDS US MORE THAN WE NEED HIM. thats why... he he he

Bathroom,

Amidst all your signature abuse, vulgarity, naivety, empty "Ha-Ha-Has" and incoherent political commentaries, you have happened to raise a valid political question regarding what I would agree to call a situation of subdued activism of the democratic republicans and a wasteful and precarious wait for otherwise a forgone conclusion in Nepal.

I wish you were minimally civilized enough for me to continue this otherwise really interesting and important topic. I do hope, however, to find better poster and atmosphere to share my views on this topic and other favorite topics of mine.

Till then
Nepe

ha ha ha !!
You wish if I were mnimally civilized enough for you ? ha ha ha WHY THE FUG SHOULD I BE ? So you can preach me your REPUBLIC REMEDIES FOR NEPAL ? ha ha ha I AM NOT INTERESTED.....NO THANK YOU.
YOU DO HOPE TO FIND BETTER POSTER AND ATMOSPHERE TO SHARE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS TOPIC AND OTHER FAVORITE TOPICS OF YOURS ? ha ha ha Yeah PEOPLE WHO WOULD LISTEN TO YOUR REPUBLIC REMEDIES LIKE IT CAME STRAIGHT FROM GOD WITHOUT ASKING ANY QUESTIONS. Yeah you would not want someone like me in your audience cause I will not hesitate to deflate your Pedestal when you start talking out of your ass.
Your softer tone on your last post confers to what I said before. CAUSE HOW THE FUG ARE YOU GOING TO BECOME A LEADER IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY SUPPORTERS RIGHT ? Thats why you keep throwing lil SAAYERII or YOUR BOOK REPORT to entice people don't you. AND YOU STILL THINK WE ARE ALL STOOOPID RIGHT ? ha ha ha

Aum Ganesh
Om mani padme hum!!