I am surprised they were getting Nepali passport this far at all.

@goddamn
That's actually a good argument. But is that why you have a Nepali passport? So that Nepal would protect you?
If you still have a Nepali rupees, any denomination, it says "नेपाल सरकारको जमानत प्राप्त यसको रुपैया भुक्तानी माग्न आएमा नेपाल राष्ट्र बैंकबाट .. रुपैया तुरुन्त पाइञ्छ." Now, is that the purpose of a Rupee? To get the भुक्तानी back from Nepal Rashtriya bank?
Hope you got my point.

@Kaalubaby, seriously?? Green card through asylum and through employment are both ethically and

@Kaalubaby, seriously?? Green card through asylum and through employment are both ethically and patriotically wrong?

गजब गजब का नमुना छन् साझामा| यति भनेर धागो बाट आज्ञा चाहन्छु| जय नेपाल|

@kiddo thats not how i use nepali rupees, but that is the reason why i use nepali rupees coz it has a value and backed by nepal govt.

@Kiddo I was talking about fake asylee and fake resume holder.

I don't see anything wrong when F1 students apply as students and mentioned they'll return back once the degree is complete (it's the intention at the time of obtaining visa). At that time they had "intention" of going back to Nepal after they finish their degree and the "Intention" changes after they finish their degree so they apply H1b and get green card through legal process such as Eb2 which is not similar to getting green card by faking the asylum and lying that they're in danger when they go back to Nepal. They're two different things.
You can't say F1 students lied at the time of F1 interview when they said they had intention of returning at that time and that intention may change after they come to US...

It's like you get your green card thru your Employer and people change jobs after working few years. So it's the intention at the time of applying green card through Employer. "Employee had intention working for unlimited time for the employer when he/she applied for green card". But that intention might change and they're allowed to change the employer.

Asylum fraud is a severe fraud. I have seen most of the students going through that route in past few years. They go to states like California and apply asylum mentioning maoist threat which maybe true in very few cases but most of the time it's not. and it's true most of them travel via india.

Let's see if Nepal government does what they're saying now or they change the policy again.

Do I have to mention the visa status while renewing passport?

It is not Nepali government job to know our status. Which direction our country is heading? In some point it is encouraging people to go oversees and get more remittance. What makes difference if some one is in Middle east or Europe or USA ?

Racheeta darling ko kuro sahi lagyo hai...hasne bela vayeko jasto cha.....

After reading all these opinions, I feel like we Nepalese don't want to see other getting the things which are not able to or we already have. What's wrong in getting green-card through Asylum.If American government is granting,anyone can take that. It is US government to decide whom to give and whom not to,not us. Don't forget that our country still runs from huge portion of remittance and obviously some portion of that is contributed by most of the green card holders in USA. We students can't send a SHI*. I would say, if US gives, take it.


Jai Nepal

Also adding to the above comment, I have a Green card today and citizenship by 2016 so all you guys can bite your heart out. There is no such thing as right or wrong as long as you dont hurt anyone. You guys can fight and argue all you can but its everyone right to file for asylum.
If you want to talk about right or wrong and whats moral...find out who killed my king birendra who was the one behind 9/11 where almost 3000 people died. Find them first and talk with me later...............peace.

Also supporting anyone who wants to get GC through Asylum.

Talk to the hand.

I have seen this argument too many times.

First of all, I support your claim on getting a passport; even though from a nation's point of view, if my citizen is leaving me and seeking asylum from another country, I really shouldn't care about giving him/her any document, be it passport or anything else. I supported it because genuine asylum seekers will be at a serious jam for no fault of their own.

Now talking about envy and people criticism, well you should expect that. I wouldn't necessarily call it envy. Say, there is an apple tree and everyone is eligible for the apple as long as they put in an honest day of work. You work your ass off and go collect your apple, while Chankhey there is just sleeping idly through out the day. Then he goes and gets the apple, lying that he also was working the whole day. Be honest, you will feel a little mad about Chankhey gaming the system and getting the apple. That's not envy. Sure if the gardner is dumb enough to believe Chankhey and grant him the apple, it's his fault, but you still feel a little irate, woudn't you?

As for Criticism, you can't expect people to keep quiet when somebody asks a question like how an asylee can get entry back to his country w/o losing the asylum status. As much as you have the right to that status, the critics have right to criticize the way you have gotten it.

Hope you got my gist.

well said kiddo

@kiddo agreed

don't matter who gets green card or citizenship thru how many ways, Americans don't give a rat butt about nobody, most probably they think all of us as poor people coming here to live a life that we couldn't get back then and we all will drown in that melting pot of so called American dream

Dovorceguy:
It does matter. Those who are fake asylees should be ashamed of themselves. Because of them, real asylum seekers lose credibility and visa process for the rest of the population gets tougher.

Satrianic:
"Also adding to the above comment, I have a Green card today and citizenship by 2016 so all you guys can bite your heart out. "
- Good for you. Sounds to me like your life's ultimate goal is to get the green card.

"There is no such thing as right or wrong as long as you dont hurt anyone."
- Yes, there is as you have just cheated the system. Because of people like you Nepali passport gets frowned upon. You are also hurting those genuine refugees, who are in real fear of persecution. Stop calling yourself an asylee. You are a mere fraudster.

"You guys can fight and argue all you can but its everyone right to file for asylum."
- No. Only genuine refugees in the fear of persecution have the right. Frauds like you just fool the system.

"If you want to talk about right or wrong and whats moral...find out who killed my king birendra who was the one behind 9/11 where almost 3000 people died. Find them first and talk with me later"
- Just because there are more sinister criminals in the world than fraudsters like you, it does not give you any kind of amnesty.

"Also supporting anyone who wants to get GC through Asylum."
- What more can we expect from crooks like you... Good luck with rest of your life with GC that people like you earned at the expesnse of ruining the reputation Nepali passport. And don't come back complaining later on that your brother's visa got rejected by the US Embassy...

I have known about 10 of my friends who received their green card via asylum. To the best of my knowledge, all of them filed the asylum since they were thrown out of the school because of poor GPAs. This poor GPAs are the result of their negligence (drinking, moj masti, gaaza etc). Nothing more to say. And now, they complain they cannot go back home blah blah blah.

समस्या यस्तो हो !

राहदानी को अवधि समाप्त भए पछि, नबिकरण गर्दा राजदूतावास मा बुझाइने फारम संगै, अमेरिका मा कुन भिषामा हुनुहुन्छ तेस्को प्रमाण नि चाहिने रे ! अर्थात् ग्रीन कार्ड, H1B , F1 के हो खुलस्त देखाउनु पर्ने रे राजदूतावास लाई. अब ग्रीन कार्ड को प्रतिलिपि दिने हो भने तेस्मा अस्य्लुम बाट आएको ग्रीन कार्ड हो भन्ने स्पष्ट देखिन्छ ! अर्को देश मा शरण लिएको व्यक्ति लाइ नेपाल सरकारले राहदानी दिइ रहनु नपर्ने नियम बनेछ !

उपाय यस्तो हो !

पुरानो म्याद नसकिएको राहदानी र यात्रा अनुमति पत्र लिएर सुटुक्क भारत हुदै नेपाल जाने अनि नेपाल मै MRP राहदानी बनाउने अनि खुरुक्क फिर्ता आउने .... फेरी वाइस्याल ले देख्ला ....पुरानो म्याद नसकिएको राहदानीमा नि खै कहिले देखि त यात्रा बन्देज नै छ ... त्येइ भएर यो दशैँ तिहार मज्जाले चंगा उडाउदै, टुबोर्ग beer र ह्याकुला चपाउदै, कृष्ण मन्दिर पछाडीको छ्याङ्ग र चतामरि हान्दै आरामले MRP राहदानी बनाएर भारत हुदै आउने...

Thanks for the solution RamPrasadNeupane.

कुरा खुलस्त पार्दिनु भएकोमा र समस्या हल गर्ने उपाए बताईदिनु भएकोमा धेरै धन्यवाद राम प्रसाद न्यौपाने जी !!
केहि न बुझेका कुराहरु पनि थप सोधैछु..
१-- MRP asylee ले मात्र न पाउने कि उसका मुनि भएका Derivative ले पनि न पाउने?
२-- नेपालमा गइ MPR बनाउने संदर्वमा,, नेपाल सरकारले पासपोर्ट नदिने भनि बनाएको कानुन के नेपालमा चाही लागु नहोला र?