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Posted on 07-21-06 12:32 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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For a change:
But yes wait for the Episode on Terrorism (funded by bush foundation)

LOVE:
Looks like in this world everyone is looking for love. But does love really exist? And oh ya! The true love. That everyone is running after.

Love defined as: source: mariage.eklesia.net
Augustine of Hippone completing a definition initiated by Aristotle defined three types of love and these keys are interesting to transpose in our history :

- Loving to be loved (Amare - Amari) :
A narcistic feeling necessary to believe in myself, the minimum necessary to start believing in other...

- Loving to love (Amare - Amare, in Greek philien) :
Joy to share, friendship, force which makes us closer to the other, gives us value, allows us to exist in society

- Love (Amare, in Greek agapan) :
Loving-gift, the one who does not look after its interest

Lets take this one by one:
Loving to be loved: of course who doesn’t want that, if somebody comes and gives you something you want .Something you need .Obviously you would like that call it love.
Loving to love: Of course this is true too , who wouldn’t like someone to be there and help them, and so you can not be isolated
Love:Ah.. Here is catch.. All the above definition there is an underlying factor called ..Selfishness. In speaking of this definition of love, the love does not really exist.

Take for example: your personal life
Your girlfriend loves you because she loves movies and eating out.
Your BF loves you because he has some manly desires.
You mom n dad loves you because ,when you grow up you can help them out
You love your mom n dad because they provide you basic necessacity..
Husband in wife “love” cause of several materialistic reasons.

Your social life:
You friend helps you so when he needs help you help them
Your boss needs you so he can save is ass
You need your boss because he can save your ass.
The example is unlimited. So what do we get this from here. Does a bird name “love” really exist??

Well the answer is simple: every act is a business transaction ,there is no such thing as love .Profit and loss is evaluated by every creatures of this planet while doing their act. May it be as simple as self-satisfaction or gratification(spiritually speaking)
What is comes down to is business of social give n take is named as love in modern practical context.

Spinning your brain again: Do not wait for true love, it doesn’t exist in this materialistic world. Find a suitable business partner for a business deal where you make more profit if not at least an equal amount.

P.S: I m not pessimist...hehehe...optimistic for good business deal everyday;)
 
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Posted on 07-21-06 11:45 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I think what I say would not make much sense to the people with high Adrenaline rush :) And I would categorize most of them as immature. :D...And as I have seen so far, most people here in sajha are immature....
 
Posted on 07-21-06 12:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yes ! i think you are right!!!U should stop smoking pot right now!!!!!;);)

You are the only mature person in sajah.didn't you tell me you just had sweet sixteen b'day last week..hehehe

well, love starts with friendship..hmmm..how can that be ??when friendship itself is big business deal.haven't you seen friendship??well. a guy and a gal cannot be frens..no never..there is one person more into something else;);)
heheheh
except me ...heeheh i am really nice guy..

So,the arguments love starts with friendship is not valid..
then you said that there is true love for parents to children..hmmm..
how do you define true love of parents to thier child .for all the sacrifice that they make for the child???
well, i said it is for their own gratification..and ..investments for the future..
where is the love???
 
Posted on 07-21-06 12:53 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Love starts with attraction....friendship starts with a friendship and it should end as a friendship. If u divert friendship to love then it will end as a disaster. Sajhauser ur too young to understand love rt now.....just get busy being infatuated for now ...he he....leave love part for us the matured ones ...he he

ImI is right, A guy and a gurl can never be true friends, it will always be more that friendship when two opposite sex comes into play...attraction and jealousy will always be an issue...Im not saying that two opposite sex cannot be friends, im just saying it wont be a true friendship that is should be.
 
Posted on 07-21-06 1:13 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Just because you didn't experience one doesn't mean that there is no love kya....there is still hope....hope is the beginnin of all...oh...but I amost forgot that you're one hopeless/pessimist creature...:)

I do agree that it's difficult to find genuine friendship in this materialistic world. But it doesn't mean that friendship doesn't exist...yes true friendship is rare....you cannot buy a friend! If your friend can be bought with money, then that's not your real friend. they are just "hi/hello" ones. And I'd say friendship is mutual too...It doesn't work by only one person trying to put effort.

I still say real love starts with friendship, and lust doesn't. but ofcouse lust could eventually end up with love because of friendship...if there is no friendship in the lustful relationship, that relationship with most definitely end sooner or later.

Love of a partent to a child....it is human nature to take care of a helpless, esp when it's your own blood. But as the child starts to develop mind of his own, the parents often find it difficult to tame the child to fulfill the parents' desire. BUT if the parents 'realizes' that the children have mind of their own and might have their own wishes, only then, the friendship between a parents and a child can develop! And only then, the strong bond can develop. And as a said earlier, friendship between a parent and a child is mutual too. :)
 
Posted on 07-21-06 1:18 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Oh my very hopeful/ optimistic dear, why do i even get into talking to u.
 
Posted on 07-21-06 1:20 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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hehe...sidster sweety, it's not time for you to think...just muddle in the mud...and enjoy life...:D
 
Posted on 07-21-06 1:23 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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And sidster, I was referring the long post to ImI, not to you. I know you are not a pessimist...hehehe..
 
Posted on 07-21-06 1:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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LUGA JASTO KURA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted on 07-21-06 1:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Posted on 07-21-06 4:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Elixer,
Please tell us what is not luga jasto kura we will talk about it only that sort of kura.After all we come here to impress you right!!!!and talk about all sorts of stuff you like..

Sajahuser ,
i told you before and i am telling you now again,you need to go to school..hmmm..fifth grade would be right place to start again..hehehe
cause you still don't know how to read..can you read what is says on the bottom of the first post:P.S: I m not pessimist...hehehe...optimistic for good business deal everyday;)

here is the moral for you when i wrote this:

Do not wait for true love, it doesn’t exist in this materialistic world. Find a suitable business partner for a business deal where you make more profit if not at least an equal amout
So you can hope and hope and hope...u not getting anything outof it.you knowvery well how your friends will treat you ..wanna bet on that.. experiment.. if you are useless to them like you are bankrupt(do not take it iterally) then they would lend you the thing called loveee..:)
So why do people always fake and say they love you infact they really don't cause the essential element of love without any selfinterest!!!(selfinterest could be anykind)

Sidster..you know i just like to englighten little sajahuser alittle bit..she is still learning .hehe
 
Posted on 07-21-06 5:18 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I could have said everything i said with experience :)...maybe I'm just lucky to have friends and family who truly love me..well it's true for me atleast, because they haven't proven me otherwise....I didn't come out here in sajha to find true love.....just to share thoughts :)
 
Posted on 07-21-06 5:28 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sajhauser,

How old are u really? Just wondering why everyone calls u immature....he he
 
Posted on 07-21-06 5:42 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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hehe...i don't get offended no matter what you say ke cutie pie.ehehehe....i think maturity doesn't only depend only upon age but also the type of experiences you get as you age....depends upon how much patience you have to learn things in life...so one could not be mature even if he/she wishes to because they don't have ability in their brain...the ability to be patient...the experience that teaches them...and luck :)
 
Posted on 07-21-06 5:42 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Congratulations!!!Sajahuser!!you are one of the lucky ones who hit the jackpot..heheheh
See.. when u say so i trust you.. you may be right cause..there is good give n take between you and your loved (i suppose so )ones.I am just looking from materalistic point of view.You know how ...oh i need true love..sorta thing.That is what i am refrering to .Good job .you are doing good business.. and if you are happy with all your partners thats fine.. but there is no sort of thing like..selfishlessness scarifice and care..
keep on doing good business.. you are following my advice heheh.. you seem to be in upperhand ..:)

Sidster...
Sajahuser just turned sixteen re kya..hehehe .. nak na phulaye huuncha sajhauser..hehehe:P:P
 
Posted on 07-21-06 5:45 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Posted on 07-21-06 6:00 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Ye bichara...jamma sweet sixteen ....bachhi nai rahichan !!!
 
Posted on 07-21-06 6:11 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hey IMI if you look life from materialistic point of view you won't be able to find happiness and true love..i agree with sajauser ...and i think she is mature girl...
 
Posted on 07-21-06 8:24 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Alas!! some one came to rescue SAjahuser .hehehhehe
SS74k.. there is no love and there is no true love.. materalistic or whatever.Don't think i am pessimist.Everything is pure business transaction.well , i am looking from different angle than you .I should say i am digging to the real defination of love and which i don't see.Everything is like contract. that is why marriage is also known as social contract.I don't want everybody to think , everytime as every thing is business dealing with people but this they should think in a cool brain.If you are scared to do buisness with people thinking you will lose then you do.. so go into the life ..do what you can.. happiness is a relative term anyways.:)
 
Posted on 07-21-06 9:35 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thanks ss74k :)

Sidster, don't think too much...yes i'm still sweet sixteen..oh how i wish..hehehehe

ImI, naak fulauda fulauda I forgot to thank you for your congratulations...heheehee.. My definition of true love is rather different. I wouldn't say it's selflessness. Ofcourse, you do everything to satisfy your own interest. But when the other person becomes the part of your life, when you cannot even imagine your life without the person, then? Ofcourse course love is give and take and it can never grow from one side. I'd say it is co-dependency. If you're not co-dependent, then it might look like contract to one. If there is no emotional need of the other person, then it will look like a social contract. Love is the potion that increases happiness :)

We see so many bad incidents on the news each day, but does it affect our daily activity? But when something bad happens to our loved ones, we do get very anxious and very concerned. I'd call that love. :)...like our country is under turmoil and I do get very concerned, is it love or out of selfishness? You can put it either way i guess. But if you say that love is selfishness to a layman then the meaning could be taken in completely opposite way...in literal terms...because literal meaning of selfishness is thinking only about oneself. but when in love, you do think about your loved ones. you would be happy if your parents were happy....the case would be different if you had fight with them..hehehe........

Even the poor MMN seems to love nepal and is trying very hard to change minds of people. But little does he know about the facts and figures of nepal and is irritating/entertaining people out here... hehehe...
 
Posted on 07-21-06 10:42 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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well ..mero bichar ma there is love..somewhere in this world but most people rarely find it in their life time..mostly is its long term infatuation which most people think its love...and just infatuation...hehe..its ironic how i said long term infatuation as infatuation is suppose to be short termm..but what ever..je bhayepani..tyahi ho love will knock on your door and u will not notice..hehe..well most people won't///i think but i dunno ..who am i to say..that..haina..love is actually give and take..transaction ...like everthing else..its just hidden ;)
 



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